ML20085N590
| ML20085N590 | |
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| Site: | Vogtle  |
| Issue date: | 05/17/1995 |
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| OLA-3-I-MOSBA-4, NUDOCS 9506300251 | |
| Download: ML20085N590 (6) | |
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-- where people will talk, you know.
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know, but nobody's going to say it in thers, you know.
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Of course they're not.
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[ Inaudible) problem is.
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What I'd like to do --
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she talked about the closed society.
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Bringing it down for ten years --
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The worst thing that can happen is that 8
you don't operate it safely and you injure people.
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We refuse to accept that we're going to 11 have to bring this plant down now and then because of 12 problems or because of regulatory issues.
We do -- I mean, 13 we go to extremes with tech spec interpretation to keep this 14 plant running and we've done it for years.
I mean, we've 15 always done it.
We've always done it.
And the NRC's not 16 stupid.
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I know.
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And we're well schooled on how the plant 12 does things.
And from what these guys have said,McCoy saidj 13 che NRC said, I don't disagree with anything they've said.
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You got enough 15 nerve at 3:30 to say it?
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You all got this worked out now?
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No.
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It's off of my chest.
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Cavalier, what does that mean?
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Are you going to keep --
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We are that.
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The discussion.
Well, 3:30 [inaudib.te.)
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