ML20085N590

Intervenor Exhibit I-MOSBA-3,consisting of 900508 Tape 99

ML20085N590
Person / Time
Site:	Vogtle
Issue date:	05/17/1995
From:	AFFILIATION NOT ASSIGNED
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OLA-3-I-MOSBA-4, NUDOCS 9506300251
Download: ML20085N590 (6)

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something like everybody knows what the problem is and, you 6

know, but nobody's going to say it in thers, you know.

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5 [lIlVOICE: -- 40 years is the worst thing that can 3'

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j 8 you don't operate it safely and you injure people.

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f 10 bay It VOICE: We refuse to accept that we're going to i 11 have to bring this plant down now and then because of i

j 12 problems or because'of regulatory issues. We do -- I mean, 13 we go to extremes with tech spec interpretation to keep this

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j 15 always done it. We've always done it. And the NRC's not j .

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24 VOICE: Yeah.

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5 [LIlVOICE: -- 40 years is the worst thing that can 6 happen. ,

.fip(f 7 VOICE: The worst thing that can happen is that 8 you don't operate it safely and you injure people.

l 9 VOICE: [ Inaudible.] j 10 b y It' VOICE: We refuse to accept that we're going to 11 have to bring this plant down now and then because of 12 problems or because of regulatory issues. We do -- I mean, 13 we go to extremes with tech spec interpretation to keep this 14 plant running and we've done it for years. I mean, we've 15 always done it. We've always done it. And the NRC's not 16 stupid.

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24 VOICE: Yeah.

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4 VOICE: I just think your people [ inaudible.] Not 5 that we're doing things that [ inaudible.]

6 VOICE: No.

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• c yf 9 uninformed, either. We get,into the heart of these issues.

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11 b.w 'ed VOICE: And we're well schooled on how the plant 12 does things. And from what these guys have said,McCoy saidj 13 che NRC said, I don't disagree with anything they've said.

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24 but if I start saying these things in front of certain l 1 1 i l 25 people, you know, my future may be limited here.

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6 ho M VOICE: You all got this worked out now? l 7 VOICE: No.

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9 8 VOICE: It's off of my chest. I'm sure you will 10 figure out the appropriate way to handle this. N'M 11 VOICE: You're just too [ inaudible.)

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13 VOICE: Cavalier, what does that mean?

14 VOICE: Are you going to keep --

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16 VOICE: Are you going to keep [ inaudible) there or i

17 what are you going to do with it?

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f 19 VOICE: We are that.

20 /7s.- le VOICE: Do you disagree with anything you heard?

21 [Nfei VOICE: [ Inaudible.)

f 22 AdM VOICE: You don't disagree with anything you've j 23 heard?

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25 You guys weren't in there. You were in there --

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