ML20085N500

Staff Exhibit A-36,consisting of Taped Conversation from Tape 98,side a

ML20085N500
Person / Time
Site:	Vogtle
Issue date:	05/17/1995
From:	GEORGIA POWER CO.
To:
References
OLA-3-A-036, OLA-3-A-36, NUDOCS 9506300217
Download: ML20085N500 (7)

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troubleshooting, you had component testing, you had logic 8 tests, then you did a UV test. There were a couple of 9

special tests in there for some DCP functional,S then an 10 operability declaration was made and then routine 11 surveillance tests were done after the operability 12 declaration.

11 You know, at what point in time are we comfortable 14 saying that the comprehensive test program was-- complete?

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