ML20085N476

Staff Exhibit A-34,consisting of Taped Conversation from NRC Tape 75,Side a

ML20085N476
Person / Time
Site:	Vogtle
Issue date:	05/17/1995
From:	GEORGIA POWER CO.
To:
References
OLA-3-A-034, OLA-3-A-34, NUDOCS 9506300205
Download: ML20085N476 (10)

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USNRC GPC EXIIIBIT 34 1 1 [NRC TAPE 75 SIDE A) AUFDENKAMPE EX. II

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/ VOICE /Cood morning 3 voleE: Good morning.

OFFICE OF SECRETARY 4 VOICE: Good morning. 00CKETING & SERVICE 5 VOICE: Good morning, BRANCH j

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9 VOICE: Good morning.

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11 VOICE: Okay, Unit 1 100 percent reactor power.

12 [ Inaudible) average for last,.24 is 1128. Current hour is 13 1150. 10,100 BTUs.

[Inayd'ible) . Average [ inaudible) 14 connectivity on the staa's generator is about .32. /

15 We current 1y' have the RAN [ inaudible) 120 LCO.

16 The 14-day report should be worked on today. We just added 17 another LCO [ir. audible) maintenance. [ Inaudible)'and it 18 should stay on line. We had several instances last night of 19 the LCD [ inaudible). I got a recorder booked up to the 20 sonitors trying to isolate what the problea'is.

21 I guess IC has an [ inaudible) out on Loop 4 that's 22 due today or they were found during the,' night that'll 23 , require my taking a look at that, whether it's' just a'due 24 , date or a late date. - .

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25 . Now we're [ inaudible) on the run' back, on the O ffJCLEla REGULAICID COMMIS$!CN s o-y a y-ow i Docket uo Sa 129-et4-1 Oba! Exh No. 68f 11'- 3 4 in th rnaar cf Cr FC et al-Staff EfmFdo 5-App 4 m V Tu TNED s-Int rumor REfCTED Conig C?r Cor,t:ae;r ogr o y _ f 7 - q 5-0"!er W' z ,q J M k m ,oa R0purter C. A%

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7 combination of multiple portions of data. There is no E better data -- this is better than any single source of 9 data. This is an integrated data. g, ,,4f 10 [dA 1e02ct.: It sounds like ther4 satorial '!-"*-)

M 11 JJ&- /N 7"Nr 4E4 12 h 4NtteR3 These are not logged in the ContrC1 room 7 hear f-13 log. These are not logged in the diesel log. +femend4 Met i 14 you couldn't tell initially, but this is my interpretation 15 of what actually happened, having talked to Kenny. l 16 totees Those are the ones that really concern me. l 17 IIM tatet That one ought to concern you. That one is ought to concern you. That one should concern you. That l 19 one. In fact, there's a lot of them. I mean, these are 20 obviously real live problems, okay? And there are problems l 21 with the features that we're investigating.

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5 6: I thought that was a (inaudible).

6 [*ientet: That's a three-minute run here.

7 p wee *** That's another thing that bothers se a 8 little hit -- taking credit for these one- and two-minute 9 runs.

10 74 -90$cS But it did run.

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12 74 4 40289: Yes.

13 06 ite'AS.: Why would we run it for three minutes?

14 db itOscts Anything that is a blank, any -- these --

15 anything that has a number in this column is a start and A* " "

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18 /% 1t02c8: That's part of the logic testing.

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20 / W 402CE: East control logic test. They were 21 tripping it on the various sensors, I believe.

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24 Am isoscas . Maybe I'll sake a copy of that for George.

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14 .Afr ICE: And I a phone e n back n 1 George wanted to t to you, a saf1f and San Cr n at 4:15 16 in his office 17 $m VOICE: He 1 king about"the droppe d, and

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4 moses: Tell as where the problems are. Is this 13 the probles side or is this the problem side?

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15 fr$ iseseeJ !s this the problem side?

16 g y 1sosct: No. Does that say "Not logged in the 17 control loga7 18 JL Af m: Yeah.

19 M 1R03CE: That's just the statement of fact, 20

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22 jd' 903C8: What is the problem?

23 *st sozct: The problem is this. The problem is I 24 believeg/e- Mes4eas-;4the fr4rrrrrwr NRCMA.0C ^^ - - - Th(were

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14 AM #Dete ttumin*+4*4e+4 numbers together the first 15 time. You know, you've got George's presentation, you've 16 JEA got the COA response letter, and you've got the gIA8h-5gt NCNS 17 4868+* : [ Inaudible) the COA response letter 4

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14, 20 -*a+eF* "?-- " * ; the 1A diesel was started is 21 times, and the 15 diesel was started 19 times [ inaudible).

22 No f ailures or problems have occurred in any of these 23 starts.

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4 [*S'voscts (Inaudible) numbers. It has the 18 number 5

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