ML20072H743
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| Site: | Crane |
| Issue date: | 04/24/1981 |
| From: | Haimowitz M GENERAL PUBLIC UTILITIES CORP. |
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_x GENERAL PUBLIC UTILITIES CORPORATION, JERSEY CENTRAL POWER & LIGHT COMPANY, METROPOLITAN EDISON COMPANY ad PENNSYLVANIA ELECTRIC COMPANY, Plaintiffs, 80 CIV. 1683 (R.O.)
-against-THE BABCOCK & WILCOX COMPANY and J.
RAY McDEF.MOTT &
CO.,
INC.,
Defendants.
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Continued deposition of Plaintiff 1
GENERAL PUBLIC UTILITIES CORPORATION, by MILTON m
HAIMOWITZ, taken by Defendants, pursuant to t
adjournment, at the offices of Davis Polk &
Wardwell, Esqs., One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 4
New York, New York, on Friday, April 24, 1981, i
l at 10:50 o' clock in the forenoon, before Charles i
Shapiro, a Certified Shorthand Reporter and l
Notary Public within and for the State of New York.
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DOYLE REPORTING. INC.
CCRTIFIED STENOTYPE REPORTERS
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WALTER SHAPIRO. C.S.R.
NEW Yon st. N.Y.
10017 CHARLES SHAPIRO C.S.R.
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2 Appe a ra n c e s:
3 KAYE, S CllO LE R, F I E RM.'. si, IIAYS & ilANDLER, ESQS.
Attorneys for Plaintiffs 4
425 Park Avenue New York, New York 5
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DAVID KLINGSBERG, ESQ.
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-and-PATRICIA HENNESSY, ESQ.,
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10 11 DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL, ESQS.
Attorneys for Defendants 12 One Chase Manhattan Plaza New York, New York 10005 13 By:
ROBERT F.
WISE, JR.
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having been previously duly sworn by a 4
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further as follows:
6 EXAMINATION (Cont'd.)
BY Mk. WISE:
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Q Mr. Maimowitz, yesterday your counsel 9
mentioned to me during one of the recesses that you 10 had had some further recallections concerning 11 contacts with B&W.
I did not have an opportunity 12 to get to that yesterday.
13 I would like to give you a chance at i yN.
El 14 this time to make any statement that you wish 15 with respect to other contacts that you had with l
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18 A
Thank you.
I 19 I'was a part of a negotiating team 1
20 to what we called the OTSG Program, it was a change l
21 in scope under our nuclear steam supply contract 22 for TMI-2 and it was evidenced by a change notice.
23 The participation that I had in that 24 was in negotiating a price for those 1ctivities j
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Q Were there any other contacts besides 3
that?
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Yes.
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What was the other or others?
6 A
In 1975, I partook for a short while in 7
negotiations for a fuel fabrication contract but i
8 I don't remember if it was tne reload of TMI-1 or i
9 TMI-2.
10 Q
Do you know whether a reload for l
11 THI-2 was ever purchased by GPU?
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I believe it was.
13 Q
Do you know from whom it was
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To the best of my knowledge, it was split i
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17 Q
Do you have any recollection as to 18 who you dealt with in connection with the reload 19
' contract?
I say " dealt with," I mean at B&W.
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I don't remember.
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Do you know whether you attended any I
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I rememver Vince Zodiaco, I remember Bud 5
cherry to some degree, I remember Fred Glickman 6
and there also may have been a Gordon Bond, 7
another technical person.
8 Q
Did !!r. Glickman take an active 9
role in that negotiation?
10 A
I don't know what you mean by the word 11
" active."
12 Q
Was he involved in participating 13 in the decision making with respect to that
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I believe it was a team effort and, i
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Do you know whether he attended 19 any face-to-face negotiations?
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He may.have but I am not sure.
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Going back to the OTSG matter,
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I dealt with Grant Ward, I dealt'with t
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Do you remember what year this was?
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A I believe it was 1977 or 1978.
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Q You mentioned that this resulted 4
in a change order.
5 To what contract was that change 6
order referenced?
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The change notice referenced the 1967
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B&W and JCP&L.
10 Q
Did the change notice adopt the 11 terms and conditions contained in the 1967 12 contract?
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To the best of m-knc wiedge, it did.
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When did you first become aware of 15 the OTSG negotiations?
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In 1977 or 1978.
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How did you become aware of the 21 negotiations?
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contract?
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We believed and took a position that this 8
could be warranty related.
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When you say " warranty related,"
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Yes.
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That was the reason why the decision
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Did B&W agree that the change notice I
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I know th.y ca me to agree in the 22 end since that is the way the change notice went 23 out.
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24 agree initially with that position that GPU took?
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What was B&W's initial position?
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this performed as a task release under an 6
existing Master Services Agreement.
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Do you know what Master Service 8
Agreement B&W wished to have this work performed 0
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No, I don't.
11 Q
Did you have occasion at that time 12 to review whatever master service contracts 13 existed between B&W and GPU?
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No.
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Was there any discussion during 16 the course of the OTSG negotiation of the terms 17 and conditions of the 1967 contract services, 18 the terms and conditions of whatever Master Service 19 Contract it was that B&h inicially wished to have 20 the work performed under?
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I don't recall any discussion with regard 22 to terms and conditions.
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No.
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can you now recall any other 8
contacts with B&W besides the two instances you 9
have mentioned this morning and those that you 10 testified to previously?
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I don't recall any other.
12 Q
Have you made a search of your 13 correspondence files, if you maintained such
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I have not made a search of those files.
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Do you know if anyone has?
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I believe so.
19 Q
Who made the search?
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Counsel.
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Do you know whether any search'has 22 been made of your files to determine whether there 23 are any written memoranda or notes respecting I
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oo you mean other than counsel?
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No, I just want to know whether 6
anybody has done that task, then I will ask who 7
did it, if anyone.
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I don't know.
9 Q
Has anyone asked to review your 10 files for the purposes of determining whether or 11 not there are any notes or memoranda in them 12 relating to communications with B&W7 13 A
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Do you know whether they were 19 actually all reviewed by counsel?
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I don't know.
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mark as Defendants' Exhibit 28 for 6
identification, a copy of what appears to be a Master Services contract bEtween 7
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Would you take-a look at Exhibit 28
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The August 16th memo is commenting on 9
a proposed Master Services Contract.
That is 10 Exhibit 25.
Exhibit 26 -- and that is dated 11 August
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Exhibit 28 is the final,. executed 12 Master Services Contract, and the date of 13 execution, I guess we don't know at this (O,
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18 provision that ended up in-the final contract i
19 according to his recollection, that is the 20 question?
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Mr. Haimowtiz, with respect to your 4
memorandum, which is Exhibit 25, do you know whether 5
the proposal that you were commenting upon in 6
Exhibit 25 eventually wound up being the contract 7
which'we have marked as Exhibit 28?
8 MR. KLINGSBERG:
You mean whether it is 9
the same?
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In other words, was his 11 memorandum directed to the negotiation of 12 the deal which wound up being the contract that 13 is now marked as Exhibit 28.
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I believe not.
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17 This one says it-is a proposed 18 agreement for Units 1 and 2.
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Do you know whe her there was a 1 i 20 separate Master Services Agreement-ever entered i
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I don't know.
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Edison entered into with B&W?
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I am aware of a Master Services Agreement 4
that is dated 1977 that is apparently for both 5
units, and I am certainly -- Met Ed, you know, the G
other one, GPUSC.
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Do you recall reviewing more than one 9
Master Services Contract between Met Ed and B&W t
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I don't rec.all.
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Do you have anything in your files i
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It is a mystery to you today, other t
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I. object to that.
I 19 don't think he says.that it is a mystery.
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22 Exhibit 25, and the. Master _ Services Contract which j
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Yes.
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Since this is the only Master Services 12 Contract entered into between the parties in 1977, 13 I have reason to believe that this memorandum, in J
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I don't believe so.
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Mr. Haimowitz, if it will help, I am 10 not trying to pin you down as to whether or not 11 there is or is not a warranty in this particular 12 contract on spare and replacement parts.
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f what the original proposal was on spare or 4
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I don't have a recollection.
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Would you look at your memorandum 7
on that point, which says "Such orders should be 8
placed under the terms and conditions previously D
negotiated between GPUSC (on behalf of Met-Ed) "
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reasoncble and I believe it gave Met Ed a right, 1
9 if it so wanted, to analyze certain cost data 10 held by B&W to in fact insure that the prices 11 appearing for spare parts would meet certain 12 criteria that B&W agreed to utilize in its pricing 13 technology.
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Was this agreement embodied in any 15 writing?
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Did it contain any terms and 6
conditions other than provisions relating to 7
pricing and cost data as you testified?
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I don't recall anything but matters of 9
pricing.
10 Q
Do you recall whether the letter 11 contained any provisions relating to warranties?
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I don't recall any such provisions.
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What led you to recommend in your
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insure ourselves that what we would be paying 8
for these spare parts would be a reasonable price, j
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are limited here today because we don't have 7
before us the proposal or the draft that you had 8
before you when you wrote that.
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limitation, are you able to cell us today from 10 your recollection to what you were referring in 11 that sentence which I just quoted, and you may take 12 your time and read both your memorandum on 13 Section 10.4 and also look at the warranty relating fi J
11 to engineering and technical advice as it appeared 15 in the final contract as Section 10.3.
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which was 10.1 in the original was 8
apparently removed, as we covered in earlier 1
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particular, 10.5 in the contract as finally 15 executed, since they may conceivably have i
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proposal, can you tell us today to what you were 7
referring in the last sentence of your memorandum 8
at the point where you were commenting on 9
Section 10.4?
10 A
In looking at the entire Article X,
and we 11 are talking about the lact sentence?
12 Q
Yes, on page 2.
13 A
Yes.
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I had been made aware of a statute in 6
Pennsylvania commonly known as the 7
anti-indemnification statute, which I was made 8
aware precludes total disclaimers by engineering 9
or architectural. firms performing services.
10 Q
Who made you aware of that?
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when did he tell you about this?
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Prior to August 16, 1977.
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9 Q
Was that before or after.the accident?
10 A
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Who else?
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9 Q
What did you say to Bechtel about it?
10 A
I believe I recommended that Bechtel's 11 attorney communicate with our attorney on this 12 specific issue.
13 Q
Do you know whether that happened?
14 A
I believe so.
I 15 Q
What, if anything, resulted after those 16 discussions on this topic?
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We eventually negot lated and entered into 18 an agreement with Bechtel.
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in that contract.
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meant?
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Yes.
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it.0 and titled " Limitation of Liability."
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Yes.
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whatever draft proposal it was that you had at 7
the time you wrote Exhib.t 25, are you able, 8
looking at your memorandum and the contract as 9
finally executed to recall what the basis of 10 your comment concerning the limitation of 11 liability proposal was?
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Was it your understanding that that 17 limitation of liability would have prevented 18 GPU f rom recove ring for the items set forth 19 for instance, in Section 11.1 as it wound up in 20 the final contract?
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I believe a better way of saying it is my 8
concern that B&W may think that this provision, as 9
written, could exclude any type'of liability.
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in the contract as finally executed contained 9
in Section 11.0 are substantially the same as 10 the provisions that you saw when you wrote your 11 memorandum?
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" Indemnification."
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the' contract should be accepted on behalf of 5
GPU or whichever operating subsidiary it is that 6
is involved?
7 A
It sets forth the approval cycle for each 8
type of contract, yes.
9 Q
To determine which approval cycle 10 under the LosA is applicable, what does one look 11 at in the contract?
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one looks at the dollar value of the 13 commitment.
14 Q
How do you define " dollar value of the 15 commitment"?
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That would be the maximum ag.ount that 6
is authorized to be spent on the services or 7
goods covered by the contract?
8 A
That is correct.
9 Q
In determining which approval cycle 10 should be applied under LOSA, is any consideration 11 given to the potential exposure to liability 12 which a particular contract may entail as opposed 13 to the purchase price, contr act price or level of
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It could be.
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exposure to GPU or one of the operating companies 3
beyond the amount of the purchase price, contract 4
price or funding authority?
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At the Service Company there was no policy 6
which mandated reviews other than those that 7
the policy set fo r th.
However, as a practice, 8
since each Contract Manager had the ability to 9
seek and obtain reviews, certain contracts which 10 may not normally require a LOSA review and 11 approval could in fact go through that particular 12 process, but that is only as far as I know at the 13 Service Company.
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Did you ever hava any discussions 22 with Mr. Betz as to why:he had submitted the 23 proposal for a Master Services Contract to you 24 for your review?
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Q Did you have any conversations with (D
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any other person as to why the Master Services 3
4 Contract proposal had been submitted for your 5
review?
6 A
I believe I had some conversations with John'Mazella on that matter.
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8 Q
What did you say to him and what did
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10 A
To the best of my knowledge, I believe that 11 John Mazella solicited some opinions from us 12 with respect to this proposed draft.
13 Q
What opinions did he solicit?
14 A
He sought a review of the terms and i
15 conditions in our opinion of the contract as 10 proposed by B&W.
17 Q
Did he say why he was seeking your l
18 review?
i 19 A
I don't remember.
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Q Did you have any discussions with 20
.t Mr. Mazella concerning the warranty clauses?
21 22 A
I believe so.
23 Q
What did you say to him and what did 24 he say to you about that?
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believe my comment to him was and recommendation was t delete that provision in its entirety and 3
4 the only -- the remembrance that I have is my 5
encouragement to John tc do the best possible job G
he could with respect to that provision.
Q Did he say anything to you on that 7
8 topic?
9 A
I was led to believe by John that he would 10 do the best that he possibly could.
11 Q
Is chat all you can remember that he 12 said to you?
13 A
No.
We discussed other provisions and we
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14 discussed in general the difficulty that a 15 negotiator faces when he is in a sole source situation, the problems and inequity of l
16 j
[7 bargaining power between the parties and I i
18 commiserated with him on the problems that he 10 would face.
20 Q
Did he say anything to.you as to what r
21 B&W's position was on the warranty provisions?
22 A
I don't remember discussing what John told 23 me about B&W's position on-the warranty.
34 Q
Did you have any discussions with Mr. Mazella concerning the limitation of l j'
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- 2 liability clause in the proposal?
3 A
I believe so.
4 Q
What did he say to you and what did 5
you say to him on that topic?
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A I think our con'versation with respect to 7
the 1 imitation of liability was similar to the 8.
our conversation regarding the warranty.
I 9
recognized the difficulty of his position, I 10 recognized that he is dealing, you know, in a 11 situation where he just can't say we exclude 12 B&W, it 10 not responsive to our needs, and I 13 seem to remember giving him encouragement, just 14 try to do the best he possibly could.
15-Q what did he say to you, if anything,
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I 16 about B&W's position on the limitation of i
17 liability provision?
l 18 A
I don't remember discussing the B&W position 19 with John except as it may have appeared in the 20 proposal, which I don't. remember.
21 Q
Did you discuss with Mr. Mazella the
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' indemnification provisions in the proposal?
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I believe so.
1 24 Q
What~did he'say 1o you and.what did
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A Again, with respect to the indemnification
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.i memorandum-to see if he couldn't scratch the 5
article in its entirety and consult with his G
legal people to try to rewrite the provision so 7
that'it would place less of a -- it would be 8
less of a general limitation, which I felt was 9
or indemnification, which I felt was quite broad.
10 Q
Did he say_anything to you concerning 11 B&W's position on that issue?
12 A
I don't think I can remember anything on 13 that.
14 Q
Did you have any discussions with 15 anyone else'besides Mr. Betz and Mr. Mazella 16 concerning your review of the proposed Master 17 Services Contract?
18 A.
I may have had some conversations with Fred Glickman.
19 20 Q
What did you say to him about the
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.22-A I called to Fred's attention that I had 23 recommended in a memorandum to Met Ed that the 24 draft contract was objectionable and would hope
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by Met Ed to alter many provisions.
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What did you tell him was objectionable 4
about !t?
5 A
To the best of my recollection, I believe we
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discuused the points in the memorandum.
7 Q
Is that the only recollection that 8
you have?
9 A
That's about all I can remember of 10 discussions with Fred.
11 Q
What, if anything, did he say to you 12 about the proposal?
13 A
I think he concurred with my recommendations.
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14 Q
Do you recall anything else that 15 Mr. Glicknan said to you about the proposal?
16 A
I don't believe so.
l 17 Q
Do you remember talking with any other 4
18 person concerning the proposed' Master Services 19 Contract?
20 A
I may have but I can't remember.
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23 MR. WISE:
Sure.
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marked as Defendants' Exhibit 29, a copy of
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a mem randum fr m Mr. Haimowitz to a Mr.
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Guerin dated January 19, 1976.
5 (Copy of a memorandum dated January 19, G
1976, from Mr. Haimowitz to Mr.
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.was marked as Defendants' Exhibit ". 9 for 7
g identification, as of this date.)
BY MR. WISE:
g 10 Q
Mr. Haimowitz, is Exhibit 29 a copy of gg a memorandum you prepared?
12 A
I believe so.
13 Q
Who was Mr. Guerin?
A Mr. Guerin was a Manager of Purchasing at g4 t
15 Metropolitan Edison who later became a Director.
Iti of Materials Management.
j g7 Q
What was the subject of Exhibit 297 i
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It says " Master Contract for Engineering and i
19 Technical Services."
1 20 Q
Was there a proposal for such a t.
l' ntract under consideration?
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I d n't recall.
22 23 Q
Does reading the memorandum refresh i
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I d n't recall.
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Q What occasioned your writing the O
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A I don't remember.
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Did you have any oral discussions with Mr. Guerin concerning the subject of this g
memorandum?
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A I don't recall any conversations with Mr.
Guerin.
9 10 Q
Do you recall any conversations with 11 any person concerning the subject of this 12 memorandum?
13 A
I do not.
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Do you recall any negotiations between I
15 GPU and Met Ed on the one hand and B&W on the i
16 cther during 1976 with respect to a Master t
i g7 Services Contract?
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I don't recall anything in '76 with respect I
to a Master Services Contract.
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D y u remember whether in 1976 you 20 made a review of a Master Services Contract that 21 had been executed in the past between Med Ed 22 23 '
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to what the Master Contract for Engineering and C"
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4 in your memorandum?
5 A
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And I take it you have no recollection 7
of the terms and conditions contained in any such 8
contract?
D A
That is correct.
10 Q
And you have no knowledge as to any 11 negotiations that may have occurred during 1976 12 with respect to a Master Services Contract for 13 TMI?
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I have no knowledge of any that could have 15 taken place in
'76.
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I would next like to have 17 marked a copy of a memorandum from Mr.
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18 Haimowitz to Mr. Howard, dated May 18, 1977.
i 19 (Copy of memorandum dated May 18, 1977,
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20 from Mr. Haimowitz to Mr.
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Heward, was 21 marked as De fe ndants ' Exhibit 30 for 22 identification, as of this date.)
23 Q
Is Exhibit 30.a copy of a memorandum 24 that you prepared (handing)?
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It appears to be.
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Q Was this memorandum prepared in O,
3 connection with the delay claims that B&W had 4
presented to Med Ed and GPU?
5 A
I believe so.
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Who was Mr. Heward?
7 A
Dick Heward was our Project Manager for i-8 TMI-2 at the time or at the date of the 1
9 memorandum.
10 Q
Why did you wish Mr. Heward to prepare 11 the review described in your memorandum?
12 A
could you repeat the question, please.
13 (The reporter read back the last-14 question.)
l 15 A
The memorandum apparently included an i
16 enclosure which contained licensing efforts 1
l 17 performed by B&W for which additional funds were 18 required.
This required some technical input to I-19 find out the dates, whether'or not it fell I
20 within the scope of the nuclear safety analyses, 21 which was a part of the contract,.and I believe 22 that Dick would have been the man most logically 3
23 to get us the necessary answers.
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Why were you interested in whether 4
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that such work was required from NRC prior to
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4 THE WITNESS:
Will you repeat that 5
question.
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. question.)
8 A
I believe that the request for additional i
9 funds by B&W for licensing activities would not 10 be valid if B&W could have reasonably anticipated 11 or known that such work was required prior to
'76.
12 Q
Did you believe it would be valid if 13 B&W could not have known or reasonably anticipated
' /^'s 14 that?
U 15 A
I don't know if I ever came to ~ that I
16 conclusion.
17 Q
Did you ever get any response from 18 Mr. Heward to your memorandum, Exhibit 307 i
i 19 A
I do not believe I got a response from Dick i
20 Heward but I believe a response was furnished to I
21 me.
22 Q
Who within GPU would have the authority 23 to make a decision whether B&W was entitled to 24 bc compensated for work that it would,not 25 reasonably have anticipated or known would be I
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required by the NRC prior to 1976, April of 1976?
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A I d n't think I understand the question.
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Q You testified that you were interested in finding out whether B&W reasonably anticipated 5
g or knew about certain NRC requirements before 7
April 1976 in order that you could determine l
8 whether the claim was valid; is that correct?
9 A
I think it is too narrow.
You also have to 10 see that it is also a requirement to verify that 11 such items fall outside the scope of work as set 12 forth in the contract (indicating).
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Q That **rhaps is a second requirement
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14 in your memorandum and we will come to that in i
15 due course.
l 16 My question really is:
Who was the l'T decision-maker within GPU as to whether or not to 18 Pay the claims that B&W was making?
Was that I
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20 something that somebody else had authority to do?
A I don't know what you mean by-a " decision-21 maker."
In any claim, input would be required 22 from the technical people who would be aware of, 23 in this specific instance, the licensing 34 i
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at that point in time when we accept a validity 5
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moneys would take place.
7 I hope I have answered your question.
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didn't know what you meant by " decision-maker."
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In your answer you said "we" 10 determined the validity.
11 Who are you including within the term 12 "We"?
13 A
Certainly the contract's representative and
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f 15 Q
And how would that determination be j
16 made?
Would you take a vote or would one person 17 have authority to make a final decision?
18 A
At my particular level, and at the Project 19 Manager's level, we would retch a meeting of the 20 minds, at which point I would compel probably a t
21 meeting with my superior, as Dick would do with 22 his, to receive their concurrence.
23 Q
Your superior.at that time would have 24 been Mr. Glickman, I take it?
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5 Q
Between Mr. Hirst and Mr. Glickman 6
who had final authority on whether to pay the 7
claim.?
8 MR. KLINGSBERG:
If either of them.
9 A
I think depending upon the claim, depending 10 upon the amount of that particular claim, it 11 may have been of such magnitude that it would go 12 up higher one other step.
13 Q
And what would be the next step?
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14 A
Since Mr. Glickman and Mr. Hirst were both l
.15 Managers at that time, I believe it would have 16 gone to the next level, which would be a vice 17 Presidential level.
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18 Q
Would that have been Mr. Verrochi?
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19 A
Bill Verrochi at that time was Vice President 20 of Generation at the Service Company.
21 Q
Would he have been the one with the 22 final decision as to whether or not to pay the 23 claim?
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Q You were involved in these negotiations,
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4 A
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And you were aware at the time how 6
much was involved?
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.I bel,ieve I testified to that.
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Q And you are aware today approximately D
how much was involved?
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Very approximate.
11 Q
Given your knowledge of the approximate 12 amount, can you tell us today who had the final l
13 say on whether or not to pay this claim?
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Could you repeat the i
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16 (The reporter read back the last 17 question.)
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could you clarify that?
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19 question is giving me trouble.
20 Are you asking -- what are you asking.
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21 you asking who today would have had then?
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No, I am not interested in who occupies 23
.today the position that wo,uld then have been the 24 -
final decision maker.
25 I am simply trying to find out, LO-I
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Mr. Haimowitz, who it is at GPU who eventually is O) going to have to make up his mind to pay B&W the s_
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money they were asking for or not.
5 A
At that time in May of 1977, based upon G
the to tal claim, in remembrance of the appproximato 7
amount of that particular claim, what we felt it 8
was worth, that would have been a decision that 9
Bill Verrochi would have made.
10 Q
Thank you.
11 MR. KLINGSBERG:
Off the record.
12 (Discussion off the record.)
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1 13 (At this point, a recess was taken.)
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14 MR. WISE:
Let me next ask to have 15 marked as Defendants' Exhibit 31, a copy of 16 a memorandum dated September 7, 1977 from i
17 a Mr.
J.
J.
Barton add.*essed to Mr.
18 Haimowitz.
i (Copy of a memorandum dated 19 I
l oO September 7, 1977, from Mr.
J.
J.
Barton to Mr. Haimowitz, was marked as Defendants' 21
'h Exhibit 31 for iduntif ication, as of this 22 date.)
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BY MR. WISE:
34 25 Q
Is Exhibit 31 a copy of a memorandum
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you received?
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It appears to be.
4 Q
Who was Mr. Barton?
5 A
John Barton apparently was the acting Project G
Manager at that point in time for Three Mile j
7 Islan.d Unit 2.
8 Q
Had he replaced Mr. Heward?
9 A
I don't know.
10 Q
Was Exhibit 31 sent to you in response 11 to your memorandum to Mr. Heward of May 18, 1977 12 which has been marked as Exhibit 30?
i 13 A
May I see Exhibit 307
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14 MR. KLINGSBERG:
Yes (handing).
15 Q
I would also direct your attention to
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16 the opening paragraph of Exhibit 31.
17 A
I believe this is a response from John 18 Barton to the memorandum of May 18, 1977 which l
19 is titled Exhibit 30.
20 Q
Did you receive any.other written f
21 responses to your May 18, 1977 memorandum?
h 22 A
I may have but I'm not sure.
23 Q
Did you have any discussions with i
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I don't believe I had conversations with
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Mr. Barton.
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Did you have conversations with any other person concerning what Mr. Barton reported 5
to you in Exhibit 317 6
A I believe so.
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-Q With whom did you discuss there matters?
8 A
With Bob Cutler.
9 Q
who was Mr. Cutler?
P 10 A
Bob Cutler was a GPUSC Project Engineer 1
11 assigned to the Three Mile Island Unit 2 project.
l 12 Q
For whom did he work?
I 13 A
John Earton worked for Dick Heward.
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14 Q
I'm sorry, I was directing my question 15 to Mr. Cutler.
i 16 A
oh, I'm sorry.
j 17 Mr. Cutler reported to Dick Heward.
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18 Q
Were Mr. Barton and Mr. Cutler 19 approximately equal in rank within the GPU 20 organization?
21 A~
I don't think so.
22 Q
Who was senior?
23 A
John Barton was senior to Bob Cutler.
l 34 Q
What discussions did you hpve with
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memorandum?
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I became aware that Bob Cutler had prepared 4
the details within the specific memo and I 5
believe my conversations with him were each cf 6
the elements that appear in this memorandum.
7 Q
Was any memorandum prepared by Mr.
8 Cutler subsequent to Exhibit 317 9
A I don't know.
10 Q
Did Jhr. Cutler change any of the 11 conclusions that are set forth in Exhibit 31?
12 A
He may have but I can't recall.
13 Q
Did Exhibit 31 serve as the basis for
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14 any conclusions that yoi. dree in connection with 15 the B&W claims?
l 16 A
I believe that the contents of that memo 1
17 didn't firm up any conclusions in my mind at the l
18 time the memo was written but at least it allowed 10-me to intelligently rebut portions of the B&W 20 licensing issues.
I 21 Q
Did the memorandum, Exhibit 31, in
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any way support any of the claims that B&W was 23 making?
24 THE WITNESS:
Could you repeat the
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I believe it led to potential additional j'
5 negotiations which could address certain points 1
6 within'the memo.
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you were negotiating with B&W concerning its delay l
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claims that if B&W could establish, first, that 1
10 it could not have reasonably anticipated or known i
11 that a particular item of work was required by 12 the NRC prior to April 1976, and second, that the 13 work fell within the scope of nuclear safety
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14 analysis required for an operating license, that 15 B&W would be entitled to be compensated for that i !
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That's confusing.
May I have it reread, 18 please.
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I will have to rephrase.the-j 23 question.
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Was it your understanding jt the time 1 15 you were. negotiating with asW on its delay claims J
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that if B&W could establish, first, that the work I
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known to be required by the NRC prior to April 1976 5
and, second, that the work did fall within the 6
scope of nuclear safety analysis required for an 7
operating license, that B&W would be entitled to 8
compensation?
9 A
I believe there has to be a third element.
10 Q
What is the third element?
11 A
In that-the delay in undertaking the work 12 was not due to B&W.
13 Q
Did you ask anyone to make any
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14 investigation with respect to whether or not 15 any of the delays involved in the claims made by 16 B&W were attributable to B&W?
i 17 A
I believe so.
t 18 Q
Did you receive any written analysis I
19 on that topic?
20 A
I may have but I can't remember.
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21 Q
Did you receive any oral analysis on I
22 that topic?
23 A
I may have but I don't recall.
24 Q
From whom did you seek an_ analysis as
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may request from the Project Manager if any of 5
it was performed at a later date due to the G
convenience of B&W.
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8 (Document handed to the witness.)
9 I believe that the intent of the first 1
10 numbered paragraph in that letter was the mere 11 fact that the work was performed at a later date 12 fo r its own convenience or a nonpriority basis as 13 an indication to the Project Manager to insure
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14 that it wasn't due to any delay and consequently 15 on a nonpriority basis.
16 Q
Did you have sny discussion with 17 Mr. Cutler, any oral discuss.on prior to his i
j 18 preparation of Exhibit 31?
I 19 A
I believe so.
20 Q
Did you give him any instructions as i
21 to the format the memorandum he was preparing
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I can't recall giving him specific 24 instructions with respect to a format-that the
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Did you discuss with him what he' should 3
put into the memorandum?
4' A
I don't know what *ou rean by that.
5 Q
Well, did he discuss with you what he 6
intended to write?
7 A
,I don't recall.
8 Q
Did you give him any advice or i
9 suggestions as to how he should write it?
10 A
I don't recall.
11 MR. WISE:
I don't think I have any 12 further questions.
13 MR. KLINGSBERG:
That's wonderful.
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Mr. Haimowitz, I would like to show l
19 you Defendants' Exhibit 24-B, which you were
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the document entitled " Standard Consulting.
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where we say " including" and also we mention 7
"without limiting the generality of the foregoing,"
8 so it is safe to say that my understanding is that 9
'the direct damages in this specific provision 10 merely show examples of what we deem direct 11 damages.
12 I would also like to point out that this 13 specific. consulting agreement is a document that O..
14 is utilized by CPU in its contracts with I-15 consultants where very limited expenditures are 16 put forth.
i 17 MR. KLINGSBERG - I have no further i
18 questions.
.19 BY MR. WISE:
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Do-I understand your answer to L
21 Mr. Klingsberg's question to be that you consider I
22 consequential damages, damages other than direct 1
23 damages?
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MR. KLINGSBERG:
Would you also
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damages?
5 THE WITNESS:
I will include --
6 MR. KLINGSBERG:
As included in this 7
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8 THE WITNESS:
.Yes, as included in 9
this particular thing, also all.
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11 Q
So the universe of damages to you 12 includes those things that are direct, those 13 things that are consequential and those things
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I don't follow that.
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17 Article-IX there is a description of direct I
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I 19 A
Illustrations of direct damages, correct.
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Right.
And in Article _IX Clause (b),
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The illustrations are'given of direct
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Q And it also mentions the term
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" incidental damages"?
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Let me see.
Just let me see.
5 That is correct.
6 Q
Other than direct and incidental 7
damages, does Clause (b) mention any other type 8
of damages?
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what is your question?
10 Q
Other than direct and incidental 11 damages, does Clause (b) mention any other types 12 of damages?
13 A
Yes.
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What other types?
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Actual.
16 Q
Do you interpret Clause (b) to be 17 drawing a distinction between actual damages and
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Yes.
20 Q
What is the difference between actual and direct damages?
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An actual damage could be the actual amount 23 of dollars suffered, direct damage could be a 24 little more with damage that could consist of
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Q Would all actual damages be included
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4 A
Yes.
5 Q
So that within the terms " direct 6
damages" and " incidental damages" have we included 4
7 everything that you meant to cover.in clause (b) 8 ofJArticle IX?
9 A
No.
10 Q
Besides direct damages and incidental 11-
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15 Q
And am I correct that in Article X i
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That ir not correct,
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Q And that is what is covered under 23 24 Clause (b) of Article IX?
We just-covered that?
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In other words,' Article IX
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has examples.
Are you just sticking to the 3
term " actual, direct and incidental"?
4 Q
Yes.
5 A
That's the damages that are referred to in 6
Article IX (b).
7 Q
Right.
And Article X defines 8
consequential damages, says everything else 9
except those constitutes consequential damages?
10 A
Yes.
11 MR. WISE:
No further questions.
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WITNESS PAGE Milton Haimowitz (resumed) 242 E XH I B I T S DEFENDANTS' FOR IDENTIFICATION 28 Master Services
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1977 250 29 Copy of memorandum dated January 19, 1976, from Mr.Haimowitz to Mr.
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30 Copy of memorandum dated May 18, 1977, from Mr.
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