ML20052D718

Minutes of ACRS Ad Hoc Working Groups on Nuclear Safety Research,Development & Demonstration Act of 1980 811209 Meeting Re DOE Draft Rept to Congress on Need for Establishing Natl Reactor Engineering Simulator

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- tne need for and feasibility of establishing a national reactor engineering simulator;

- the sufficiency of efforts in the U.S. to provide specially trained professionals to operate the controls of nuclear power plants and other facilities required for use in the back-end of the nuclear fuel cycle; and,

- the Program Management Plan for the conduct of research, develop-ment, and demonstration activities.

Notice of this meeting was published in the Federal Register on Monday, November 23,1981 ( Attachment A).

A copy of the schedule of presentations is Attachment B.

A list of attendees is contained in Attachment C.

Attachment D is a copy of the transmittal / summary letter for the final draft of DOE's response to Public Law 96-567. There were no written or oral statements received from members of the public. The meeting was en-tirely open to the public. Mr. Richard Major was the Designated Federal Employee for this meeting.

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Y WORKING MINUTES Subcomittee Chairman's Opening Remarks Mr. Mathis opened the meeting at about 4:15 p.m. with a brief statement on the purpose and goal of the meeting.

He asked that each portion of the meeting begin with a brief discussion by DOE of how the final draft report differed from the initial draft.

He stated that the Working Groups would appreciate hearing how the ACRS comments and other comments on the initial draft report were incorporated into the final report. Mr. Mathis informed the NRC Staff representatives present that they would have an opportunity to comment on the report prior to the Working Groups general discussion.

Assessment of the Need for and Feasibility of Establishing a National Reactor Engineering Simulator Facility' The section of the report dealing with a national reactor engineering simu-lator underwent only minor changes. The major conclusion of the section remains that a national reactor engineering simulator, as proposed, is not needed by the U.S. nuclear industry or by the Department of Energy (DOE).

DOE will set up a working group composed of members of the industry, NRC, and DOE to consider research and development on improved simulation and reactor plant performance prediction tools. The Subcommittee asked to be kept informed of developments resulting from the Simulation Working Group deliberations.

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Operations Corps The Working Group on the Federal Nuclear Operations Corps concurred with DOE that a Corps is not needed.

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'.1 WORKING MINUTES comments on the initial draft report had been appropriately considered and incorporated into the final draft, it offered DOE several additional comments, The current draft of the report states that the " Nation's academic a.

and nonacademic institutions, outside the nuclear industry, have a large and expandable capability in place to provide training in nuclear fundamentals and.to augment specific training by utilities."

The report should contain a word of caution that there is no assurance that the necessary resources will be available to enable the existing training capability to be fully utilized.

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The report should specify the extent to which the Institute of Nuclear Power Operations (INP0) will " provide adequately trained personnel to perform operational and supervisory functions."

Program Management Plan for the Conduct of a Research, Developnent, and

_D_emonstration Program for Improving the Safety of Nuclear Power Plants

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The Program Management Plan is basically unchanged from that in the initial draft report.

A program has not yet been developed, however, Working Groups have been established in the areas addressed by the Act, with representation from the industry, NRC, and DOE.

These Working Groups have been meeting to identify issues, and in continuing meetings will develop national programs in each area and recommend measures for their implementation. The Subcommittee believes this is an acceptable approach to develop meaningful programs.

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Working Groups Conclusions and Future Meetings The Working Groups agreed to bring this matter before the full ACRS on Friday, December 11,1981 from 10:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.

The Committee will be asked to provide their comments on the final draft report to DOE in writing.

The meeting was adjourned at 5:35 p.m.

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For additional details, a complete transcript of the meeting is available in the NRC Public Document Room,1717 H St., NW, Washington, DC 20555 or from Alderson Reporters, 300 7th St., SW, Washington, DC, (202) 554-2345.

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reporting on events of significance. accordingly, action will be taken on the Onofre Nuclear Generating Station,._ la accordance with the procedures petition within a reaseable amount of Unit 1, Issuance of Directo(agg,. time. Decisions outlined in the Federal Register on September 30,1981. (46 FR 47903). oral Copies of the petition are available for By petitions received since November I "' or written statements may be presented, inspection in the Commission's Public 1979 (44 FR 75535. December 20.1979) - DocumentRoom at 1717 H Street. NW., approximately 1560 California residents .by members of the public, recordings will be permitted only during those , Washington D.C.20555. have requested that the Nuclear portions of the meeting when a Dated at Be'hesda.Md.,this17th day of Regulatory Commission's Director of transcript is being kept, and questions November 1981. Nuclear Reactor Regu'ation suspend or may be asked only by members of the For the Nuclear Regulatory Commisalon. revoke the operating license for the San i Subcommittee,its consultants. and Staff. Harold R. Danton. Onofre Nuclear Generating Station. Unit ~ persons desiring to make oral Director. Office ofNuclearReactor

1. By letter dated July 10,1981. Mr. Ralph statements should notify the Designated Regulation.

Nader also requested that operation of Federal Employee as farin advance as pa n= es. arm rw u.aSai. =4: e=1 San Onofre Unit 1 be suspended practicable so that appropriate sua o coot reso.ews pending completion of a " license arrangements can be made to allow the review" for the facility.The petitions necessary time during the meeting for M m 50 20 %. and Mr. Neder's letter have been - such statements. considered under the provisions of 10 The entire meeting will be open to Nuclear Fuel Siervicea, Inc., and New CFR 2.206. public attendance. York State Energy Research and The petitions allege that San Onofre The agenda for subject meeting shall Development Authority; Establishment Unit 11: not designed to withstand be as follows: of Atomic Safety and t.icensing Board possible ground motions from to Preside in Proceeding f earthquakes that may occur and that Tuesday. December 8,1981-.-3 00 p.m. evacuation plans are inadequate to cope Until the Conclusion of Business Pursuant to Commissio'n' order, an Atomic Safety and Licensing Board is with a potential accident at the site.. Moreover,in an updated petition e. During the initial portion of the - being established in the following distributed by the Alliance for Survival a meeting, the Subcommittee, along with - proceeding to rule on request for hearing h 1980. the peutioners expressedp " any ofits consultants who may be :.' -and to. preside in the event that a i seismic concerns inlight of the Uvermore earthquake of Jamiar/Aw. present. will exchange preliminary - r." 7:f views regarding matters to be :dmqv-7...h.earin..g>la cme.r.eb-Y'.'i"T? n,;'. r:w. y 1980.. n.. <c considered during the balance of the re Nuclear Fuel Servbs~. tac. and New York ?s)t The updated petition also pointed out" '. ^ I-meetingc. .h.:;,.yc.. & Wi-v:. ' State Energy Researdi and Developmaat S. that the Rogovin Report to the Ntfear [ .Ne3 J p y e w '. % U. ~.. a1. a f/M MM#. Regulatory Comminion on the Tiute-The Subcommittee will then hear >5 - p' Mile Island accident r' commended that' l e pi.esentations by and hold discussions v. ~ g[

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l. P' l I 11/27/81 l I TENTATIVE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE DECEMBER 9,1981 WORKING GROUP MEETING ON THE NUCLEAR SAFETY RESEARCH, DEVELOPfiENT, AND DEMONSTRATION ACT OF 1980 APPR0XIMATE TIME 4:00 p.m. - 4:15 p.m. I. EXECUTIV5 SESSION 4:15 p.m. - 4:45 p.m. II. DISCUSSION OF THE NEED FOR AND FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A E\\TIONAL REACTOR ENGINEERING SIMULATOR A. Briefing on Final Draft Study (DOE) B. General Discussion and Working Group Comments 4:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. III. DISCUSSION OF THE NEED FOR AND FEASIBILITY OF CREATING A' FEDERAL NUCLEAR OPERATIONS CORPS A. Briefing of Final Draft Study (DOE) E. General Discussion and Working Group Comments 5:15 p.m. - 5:4b p.m. IV. DISCUSSION OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE CONDUCT OF A RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, AND DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM FOR IMPROVING THE SAFETY OF NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS A. Briefing on Plan (DOE) B. General Discussion and Working Group Comments 5:45 p.m. - 6:00 p.m. V. EXECUTIVE SESSION A. Working Group Conclusions B. Working Group Plans and Recommendations e AU An'utrJT 2

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