ML20038A705

Transcript of Ltr Designated Individual T 821024 Deposition in Harrisburg,Pa Re Cheating Incident.Certificate of Svc Encl

ML20038A705
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Site:	Three Mile Island
Issue date:	10/24/1981
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- Attachment In the Matter'of  :

.'ETROPOLITAN EDISCN C07 ANY,  :

Docket No. 50-2c9 (Three Mile Island Nuclear  :

Station, Uni: No. 1) .

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DEPOSITION OF  : KR. T .

Before  : Karen Kauffmann , ,

Beginning  : Saturday, October 24, 1981, 4:15 p.m.

Federal Building Third and Walnut Street, Room 700 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

b. PARTIES PRESENT:

JOHN CLEWETT, Esquire '

MARJORIE M. AAMODT ,

NORMAN AAMODT CHARLES HOLZINGER For - The.Aamodts LOUISE ERADFORD JOANNE DOROSHOW For - Three Mile Island Alert l

1 RICHARD LLOYD, Esquire For - Licensee 9

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MR. T, called as a witness, being duly sworn by Ali Smith, Notary Public, testified as follows:

DIRECT EXAMINATION SY MR. CLETETT:

Q T, did you take the April 1981 NRC examination?

A Yes, I took an exam at that time.

Q Who, if anyone, did you study with before you took that examination, do you recall?

A I studied with Mr. U one night.

Q He was the only person you studied with?

A Yes.

Q Did you feel well prepared for that test by the time you took it?

( A I felt as p epared as for any other test.

Q Was your situation, in essentially not studying with anyone else, was that at all unique? Did a lot of people approach it as a group effort in studying', to your knowledge?

A Some people did. It depended what shift you worked on.

Q And you didn't study with your shift?

A No.

Q Do you know if any of those individuals studied with each other?

A No, I don't.

Q K :o , if you recall--who was on your shift in April by letter designations?

A No, I don't really know for sure.

Q Fair enough. In your understanding, was the April examination administered by the NRC a requirement of the NRC or a 2

requirecent of the company?

A My understanding, it was an agreement between the company and the NRC.

.Q So it is a joint requirement?

i A Yeah, I guess you could say that. .

Q Do you know Mr. NNN socially or in a professional context l or both or neither?

A Yes, I know him.

Q Do you know him socially as well as professionally?

A I don't know him professionally. 7 do know him socially.

Q Do you know Mr. P socially?

A Yes. Wait a minute, I'm looking at the wrong one. Yes. l Q Does your wife know their wives?

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A Yes.

Q Are you aware of rumors to the effect that your wife indicated to the wives of Isr. NNN and Mr. P that cheating had been going on during the April NRC examination?

A I heard that it was said. I don't know how true it is.

Q Have you spoken with your wife about it?

A As to what extent?

Q 'ilell , to find out whether, in fact, she said something about that and what she said?

A I told her if she is saying anything, I would like her to keep her mouth shut.

Q Do you feel it inappropriate for people to talk about cheating if, in fact, it's happening?

A No, I feel it inappropriate for people to talk about 3

M cheating who don't know.

Q Would your wife be in a position to know if cheating I

were occurring? .

A I don't see how.

Q Did you and your wife--did you ever tell your wife anything about cheating happening at the plant?

A Not that I recall.

Q You may have but you don't recall?

A I don't recall ever telling her specifically anything.

I don't talk to her about my work at the plant.

Q Do you recall talking to anyone else about cheating during the April examination?

(Whereupon, the referred-to question was read back J by the reporter.)

t THE WITNESS: No. If he means that to include the NRC and Mr. Arnold, then the answer would be, yes.

3Y MR. CLENETT :

Q When did you talk with the NRC and Mr. Arnold about such matters?

When that was r

i A I don't know. The NRC came to cy house.

l I don't know.

Q Would that have been late this summer, roughly, or would it have been early this past summer?

A I don't know.

Q You don't know. Was the visit by the NRC individuals I the first time you heard any runor about cheating at the April test? '

t l A (pause.) No.

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Q What times before that had you heard rumors about cheating?

A I don't know, specifically, t

-Q What rumors had you heard before the inv.estigators from the NRC appeared at your house?

A I don't know, specifically.

Q Did you ever hear any rumors before that to the effect that :Cr. U had brought any crib sheets or other materials into the examination with him? Had you heard a rumor to that effect before that?

A No.

Q Had you heard any rumors to the effect that he had written anything on.his hand?

A No.

Q Had you heard anything to the effect that he had made a call to ICr. KK, who was in the control room at that time, to ask him any question that might have been on the examination?

A Not antil I was questioned by the NRC about it.

Q Eut you had heard some runors about cheating before the i NRC arrived? You just don't recall what they are?

i A Yes.

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Q Were those rucors ones that were discussed by other operators at the plant?

i A Other licensed people.

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!  ; Did those rumors relate to other R0s or SRCs or do you recall?

A I don't recall. C J

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OC(KETrn NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION umb' BEFORE THE ATOMIC SAFETY AND LICENSING BOARD '81 NOV -5 A11 :29 In the Matter of ) k[dgyM',,

) ERAi;CH METROPOLITAN EDISON COMPItNY ) Docket No. 50-289

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(Three Mile Island Nuclear )

Station, Unit No. 1) )

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that copies of " Licensee's Notice of Appeal" and " Licensee's Brief in Support of its Appeal From Special Master's Decision on Confidentiality" were served this 4th day of November, 1981 by hand delivery upon the persons identified by one asterisk, by Express Mail to the persons identified by two ssterisks, by Federal Express to those persons identified by three asterisks, and by deposit in the U.S. mail, first class, postage prepaid, to the other persons on the attached Service List.

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Deborah B. Bauser

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UNITED STATES OF Id' ERICA SUCLEAR REGULATORY CO."J'.ISSION BEFORE THE ATOMIC SAFETY AND LICENSING BOARD In the Matter of )

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METROPOLITAN EDISON COMPldY ) Docket No. 50-289

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(Three Mile Island Nuclear )

Station, Unit No. 1) )

SERVICE LIST Ivan W. S:rith, Esquire John A. Levin, Esquire Chair:ran Assistant Counsel Atcric Safety and Licensing Pennsylvania Public Utility Ccnraission Board P.O. Box 3265 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Conrtission Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120 Washington, D.C. 20555

• Karin W. Carter, Esquire

• • • Robart Adler, Esquire Dr. Walter H. Jordan Atcric Safety and Licensing Assistant Attorney General Board Panel 505 Executive House 881 West Outer Drive P.O. Box 2357 Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37830 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120 Dr. Linda W. Little_ John E. Minnich Atcmic Safety and Licensing Chairran, Dauphin 03unty Board Board Panel of Comissioners 5000 Herritage Drive Dauphin County Courthouse Raleigh, North Carolina 27612 Front and Market Streets Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17101

• Jaa2s R. Tourtellotte, Esquire Office of the Executive Legal Director ' Walter W. Cohen, Esquire U.S. Nuclear Pegulatory Comnission Consumar Advocate Washington, D.C. 20555 Office of Constrer Advocate 1425 Strawbarry Square Dacketing and Service Section Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17127 Office of the Secretary U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Co:rission Washington, D.C. 20555

Jordan D. Cunningham, Esquire Robert Q. Pollard 2320 North Second Street 609 I'ontpelier Street Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17110 Baltirore,Iaryland 21218 l

• Ms. Louise Bradford Chauncey Kepford

'DiI ALERT Judith H. Johnsrud 1011 Green Street Enviro m tal Coalition on Nuclear Power Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17102 433 Orlando Avenue State College, Pennsylvania 16801 Ellyn R. k'eiss, Esquire Harmon & Weiss Ibrvin I. Icais 1725 Eye Street, N.W., Suite 506 6504 Bradford Terrace Washington, D.C. 20006 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19149 Steven C. Sholly ** Marjorie M. Aa:x>dt Union of Concerned Scientists R. D. 5 1725 Eye Street, N.W., Suite 601 Coatesville, Pennsylvania 19320 Washington, D.C. 20006 Thomas J. Germine, Esquire Gail B. Phelps Deputy Attorney General ANGRY Division of Law - Room 316 245 West Philadelphia Street 1100 Rayrond Boulevard York, Pennsylvania 17404 Newark, New Jersey 07102 William S. Jordan, III, Esquire ~

Harron & Weiss 1725 Eye Street, N.W. , Suite 506 Washington, D.C. 20006

• • • Professor Gary L. Milhollin 1815 Jefferson Street Madison, Wisconsin 53711 Harry H. Voigt, Esquird LeBoeuf, Lamb, Icil7f & IhcRae l 1333 New Hampshire Avenue, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20036 David E. Cole, Esquire Smith & Smith, P.C.

! Riverside Ina Center i

2931 North Front Street l Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17110 John Clcwett, Esquire

! The Christic Institute 1324 N. Capitol Street Washington, D.C. 20055 i

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