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9 In the Offices of Alderson Reporting Company 10 400 Virginia Avenue, S.
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11 Thursday, November 5, 1981 12 A telephone conference in the above-entitled 13
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14 BEFORE:
15 PETER B.
BLOCK, Chairman 16 Atomic Safety and Licensing Board 17 HUGH C.
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Member Atomic Safety and Licensing Board
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19 On behalf of Wisconsin Power Company 20 BRUCE CHURCHILL, Esq.
21 DELISSA A.
RIDG'4 AY, Esq.
Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge 22 1800 Street, N.
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KATHLEEN M. FALK, Esq.
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STUART TREBY, Esq.
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3 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS Good morning.
This ir Peter 4 Block, chairman of the Licensing Board for the Point Beach 5 Nuclear Flant Units 1 and 2, Docket Numbers 50-266-OLA and 6 50-301-OLA.
-This is an on-the-record hearing in this case.
7 The transcripts may be ordered at the close of the formal 8 conference f rom the reporter whom I ask to remain en the 9 line at the end of the call.
10 This conference was called by the Board to 11 discusss the possible implications for this case of a 12 sentence contained on page 3 of the Salety Evaluation Report 13 filed by the Staff.
This is found in Section 2.2, headed pJ 14 " Structural Verification Analyses."
s-15 And the particular sentence says:
"The analyses 16 had essentially been completed, However, some additional 17 processing of finite elements stress data must yet be 18 perf ormed bef ore they can be evaluated against the three SM 19 limits f or primary plus secondary stress."
20 I think I would like to start by first asking Mr.
21 Churchill whether this additional processing is about to be 22 com pleted.
23 MR. CHURCHILLs I am going to give an answer-which C) 24 I think is right, but I have three people with me in 25 Milwaukee, Your Honor:
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Yes.
7 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
And the other name?
8 MR. CHURCHILL:
Garry Frieling, F-r-i-e-1-1-n-g.
9 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
Garry is the first nama?
10 MR. CHURCHILO Yes.
11 CHAIRMAN BLCCK:
Okay.
12 MR. CHURCHILL:
Dave Porter, who appeared at our 13 la s t hea ring.
14 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
I am sorry, I do not think that 15 M r. Dill and Mr. Frieling did.
Did they appear, or were 16 the y with you?
17 MR. CHudCHILL:
No.
Mr. Frieling was there.
They 18 did not appear.
Only Mr. Porter appeared.
19 CHAIPMAN BLOCK:
Okay.
Thank you.
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!R. CHURCHILL:
We have been endeavorino to answer 21 this question which the last analysis requires us to talk to 22 the Westinghoqse peonle, none of whom are on the line right 23 n o w.
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2 CHAIRMAN BLCCK:
Thank you.
3 Please continue, Mr. Churchill.
4 Judge Paxton, we are discussing a sentence on page 5 3 of the SER, section 7.2, Structural Verification 6 Analyses.
And Mr. Churchill was commenting on it.
This 7 section states tha t some additional processing of finite 8 element stress data must yet he performed before they can be 9 evaluated acainst the three SM limits for primary plus-r 10 secondary stress.
11 Mr. Churchill, please excuse the interruption.
12 MR. CHURCHILLs That is quite all right.
13 It is my understnding that the analyses have been i
14 completed and show tha t the sleeve tubes do meet all of the 15 Code requirements.
I think that we could probably have a 16 letter in the mail probably today indicating that.
17 CHAIRMAN BLOCKa -When you say "probably," is there 18 a date by which we could indicate in the Order tha t you have 19 promised to ha ve it in the mail?
20 dB. CHURCHILLs Doug, let me ask you this -- Doug 2: Dill talked to the Westinghouse people -- i s i t right that i
22 the analyses have been completed and the Code has been met 23 and that we can write a letter today verifying that?
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That is what Westinghouse told us, 25 yes.
The analysis is completed.
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Se if it were from the prople at 6 Westinghouse who did-the analyses, it would be preferable.
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As an affidavit?
8 CHAIRMAN ~ BLOCK:
Yes, that would.te preferable.
9 MR. CHURCHILL:
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10 tnat the individual who normally wouid sign such an 11 affidavit is away on vacation.
But let us look into that'.
12 Maybe we really do not need it on such a rush schedule as I 13 seem to be implying here.
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14 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
I suppose that on your' 15 undertaking to file the alfidavit within a week, we could 16 indicate that in our Order.
I am going to ask cther people 17 f or comments before we decide what we are going to do.
18 Mr. Churchill, what do you think about an.
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We could certainly do that.
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Would S taff dommen t, please?
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Yes, this in M r. Treb y "f or the Staff.
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I 'd t hi'n k the Staff explained why it reached its conclusions 9 deshite the absence of this data.
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What concerned me was that there 12 was a possibility that while every expectation was that the 13 d a ta would confirm the conclusions, it would not confirm the
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We'will review it when we receive it.
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Ms. Falk, would'you comment, 23 ple ase?
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6 MR. CHURCHILL:
That is what was requested by the 7 Boa rd, yes.
8 MS. FALK:
And the Staff will be verifying that 9 information when it receiv1s it?
10 MR. CHURCHILL:
Staff will review it and make sure 11 that it is consistent with Staff's experience and all.
I am 12 not going to give you the impression that we are going to go m
13 o ut and redo these tests.
What we will do is make sure that 14 tnese tests have been performed correctly.
We will check 15 the methodology and check it against all of our prior f
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?.r. Treby, as I understand, we 18 are not talking abent tests, we are talking about data 19 analyses.
And I would like to know that the Staff was goino 20 to review them, 3nd if the Staff found for some reason they 21 were inadequate, that we would not need to condition 22 authorization.on that but that the Staff would act on its 23 own anyway :nd not issue a license if in fact the da ta were O
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4 CHAIPMAN BLOCKS Ms. Falk, wo interrupted.
I am 5 sorry.
6 MS. FALK:
Is my understanding correct that what 7 will be submitted by 'destinghouse then is not only the 8 conclusions based on its analy;is but also the method of 9 analysis?
10 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
Mr. Churchill?
11 MR. CHURCHILL 4 I think maybe the method of 12 analysis is what is prescribed in th e Code.
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14 MR. DILL:
Correct.
Following Code rules.
15 MS. FALKs I am sorry, I cannot hear that.
16 MR. DILL:
Following the Code rules.
17 MR. CHURCHILL:
And you can cite the section of 18 the Code and tell what the analysis was.
I am not sure I 19 know how to answer that any more than that, because I am not 20 tha t con versan t with this particula r a nalysis of this 21 particular section of the Code.
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t 23 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS Ms. Falk, have you further 24 comment?
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5 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS Yes.-
And, of course, if there 6 were some question raised in your mind, you could be free to 7 file a motion immediately f or reconsideration of our Sdecision as well.
9 Are there any other comments on this issue?
10 MR. TREBY:
The only other additional comment I 11 have is tha t it is my understanding that the methodology 12 tney used to perform this analysis is set out in the 13 sleeving report of September 28, 1981.
14 CHAIPMAN BLOCK:
Are there f urther comments on 15 tha t question?
16 There being no f urther comments on th a t question, 17 I have two other minor mattars to resolve while we are on 18 th e record.
One is the Decade has aoved to reconsider our 19 ruline with regard to its Contention Number 6.
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'J a have reviewed its filing and Applicant's 21 response.
And we denied the motion to reconsider, and 22 affirm our inttial decision f or the reasons that were stated 23 in i t.
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24 admit a Contention, the Contention must show that but for 25 the amendmen t which is requested, that because of the (a'T ALDERSoN REPORTING COMPANY,INC, 400 VIRGINIA AVE., S.W., WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345
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The other matter I wish to resolve is the result 7 of unclearness on the part of the Board.
We have a motion 8 by Eecade to compel an answer to interrogatories on the 9 ground that the answer ras incomplete.
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10 tha t anytime the Board is requested to take formal action on 11 a matter involving a controversy between the parties, that 12 the parties first attempt to resolve that controversy 13 themselves.
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14 We therefore wish Decade to attempt to resolve 15 this matter with Wisconsin Elect::ic Power Company and to 16 advise us on the status of that attempt.
There is, of 17 cou rse, no reason to file their already-filed motion all 18 over acain, but we do want to k now what efforts have been 19 made and how successful they have been concerning the 20 set tlement of their grievances bef ore we go ahead and act on 21 the motion.
22 Are,there any conments on the two actions that the 23 Boa rd has just taken?
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But there were a number of conversations between 5 his office and our office over the weekend preceding the 6 last hearing in attempting to resolve that question.
And I 7 think, in f act, that is reflected, if my memory serves me 8 richt, in one of these filings on the discovery status or 9 something of that kind.
But some attempts were rade by both 10 parties to resolve that, and that was unsuccessful.
11 CHAIEMAN BLOCK:
One of the topics that was 12 discussed a t that time was the inadequacy or the 13 ambiguities.
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No, not exactly.
14 15 CHAIBMAN BLOCK:
I would like Ms. talk first, and 16 then Mr. Churchill will, of course, have an opportunity to 17 respond.
18 MS. FALK:
What we had immediately discussed the 19 weeke.2d bef ore the hearino va the Fart A interrogatories, 20 because at that time the company had not, from what I 21 remember they told me, adequately or exhaustively reviewed 22 the rest of the interrogatories.
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I just wanted you 3 to be aware of what attempts had gone on thus far to date.
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5 Mr. Churchill, do you have anything to add to what 6 Es. Falk has just stated?
7 MR. CHURCHILL:
Yes, I think so, because I an a 8 little bit confused about the status of this.
When we 9 received to the interrogatories, bef ore we even answered 10 them, is when I called and talked to Ms. Falk and also Mr.
11 Anderson.
I told them that I did not belie ve 12 Interrogatories 1 through a were relevant to this 13 proceeding.
I believe the Board so ruled during this 14 hearing last week.
And therefore, it seems to me that that 15 takes care of the matter.
16 In fact, I have thought -- but I have not gone 17 back to check the transcript -- but I have thought that the 18 Boa rd on the bench denied the motion to compel on 19 Interrogatories 1 through 4 20 CHAIRMAN BLCCK:
I think, Mr. Churchill, that I 21 agree with your interpretation on the Contentions relating 22 to em brittlemqnt.
But I understand there were still matter 23 raised by Decade concerning the adequacy of responses to the C
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2 CH AIR M A!! BLOCK:
And, Ms. Falk, you do not 3 disagree with Mr. Churchill that that particular question 7-U 414as no t yet been discussed between the parties, do you?
5 MS. FALKs Correct.
6 MB. CHURCHILLs You mean the second part about the 7 adequai ' of the answer that we did give?
8 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS That is correct.
9 MR. CHURCHILLs It has not been discussed; that is 10 correct.
But on the other hand, again, I thought that was 11 moot, because in what I have before me the motion to compel 12 -- and Ms. Falk cites in this -- that the title to the 13 interrogatories that she filed were Decade's first G(_/
14 interrogatories and requests for production of documents on 15 the sleeving deronstration program.
It asks f or the 16 documents that were going to be relied on in our 17 presentation, and we had, in f act, where we were going io 18 rely on documents, identified them, the ones we thought we 19 migh t rely on.
20 Her concern wac that we did not say those were all 21 of the documents.
In fact, they were intended to be all of 22 the documen ts.,
And in fact, that part of the hearing is 23 over, and we did not rely on anything other than those.
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5 Is Mr. Churchill correct that in fact your motion to compel 6 is moot?
7 MS. FALK:
I do not believe it is moot, in that 8 the full answer to those questions would produce some 9 inf ormation that was relevant to the Board's decision on the 10 interim program.
But regardless of that, I think Mr.
11 Churchill accurately stated part of our concern on those 12 portions of the interrogatories, but not fully our 13 concerns.
That is, we also asked whether or not any of
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14 members of the company knew of any studies on certain 15 topics, not whether they were intending to rely on them.
16 And I do not think we got the full answer to that question.
17 CHAIEHAR BLOCKS Mr. Churchill -- excuse me -- M s.
18 F al k, I would say since we did not act on the motion to 19 compel prior to ruling on the interim program, any prejudice 20 tha t occurred to you as a rasult of that could be an appeal 21 ground.
But I am askino you whether there is still an 22 outstanding ma,tter there which is relevant to the remainder 23 of the proceeding.
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5 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS Okay.
Well, in that cace, it 6 Still is appropria te to you to have a discussion with 7 Wisconsin Electric Power Company and tell us the status of 8 what your attempts have achieved.
9 MR. CHURCHILL:
For the record, we believe that 10 our answers to the interrogatories are complete.
We, of 11 course, interpret them in the light of the demonstration 12 program, becauce that is the way the interroga tories were 13 couched.
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I doubt it.
But I do not have an answer off the 17 top of my head to that question right now.
18 CHAIRMAN BLOCK 4 Well, why don't you people talk 19 first, and we will decide later.
20 Mr. Treby, have you any comments on that or any 21 actions taken by the Board?
22 MR..TREBY4 No, I have no comments on the 23 exchange.
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4 like to bring to the Board and the parties.
Number one, my 5 recollection is that the status report on the discovery, 6 which the Board requests twice a month, is not required 7 before the 7th?
8 CHAIPMAN BLOCK:
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We ruled that 9 tne first report in each month that had been required is no i
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11 MR. TREBYs The second matter I wish to mention 1'2 briefly is that the Staff has provided the Board with a copy 13 of the revision to the EIA, which we had provided to the 14 par ties last week at the hearing.
We also provided to the 15 Board some very minor changes in the Staf f's view to the 16 SER.
While these were mailed out yesterday, I am not sure 17 the parties have them.
If it is necessary, I could indicate 18 w ha t those changes are.
19 CHAIREAN BLOCK:
We have them.
20 Do the parties request that the Staff go through 21 the exercise of doing this orally, or can they await the 22 receipt of the, document?
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2 MS. FALK Are those the changes that you told me 3 at the. hearing o ra lly which were purely technical in na ture?
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They are the exact 5 changes with regard to the EIA that I gave you.
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'41th regard to the SER, I believe there were only 7 three or four changes, and those were corrections where we 8 incorrectly used terms.
For instance, on page 6 of the SER, 4
9 on the seventh line, we used the word "less" when we should 10 have used the word "more."
That is the nature of the 11 changes.
12 MS. FALKs I would like to, if there are only 13 three more, know what those three are on the SER.
You do g s) 14 not need to repeat the ones on the EIA because of your 15 presenta tion right now.
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That is on the seventh line.
18 In the second full paragraph, the paragraph beginning with 19 " Eddy current," in the second line of that paragraph the 20 word " reference" tha t is within quotes should be 21 "alterna te. "
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Excuse me, I missed what the last 25 change was.
I am sorry.
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MR. TREBY Cn page 6 of the SFR, on the second V("T 2 f ull-paragraph on page 6, where they were discussing eddy 3 current inspections, the Staff incorrectly talked in terms 4 of the ref erence-type opportunity.
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One is the reference type and one is the 6 alternate type.
The alternate type is the one that is done 7 by proprietary heat method, and that was the one that we had 8 intended to discuss there, and so we should have been 9 talkinc about the alternate type.
It seems to me --
10 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
Okay.
Proceed.
11 MB. TREBY:
That is what the change'$s.
12 On page 10, a few words were deleted when we were 13 setting out the number of person-rems one got for performing 14 cer tain actions.
And under E, which is dealing with 15 deplugging tubes for sleeving, you should add the phrase 16 "O. 9 person-rems /2 ( mechanical). "
17 CHAIRMAN BLOCKS okay.
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18 KR. TREBY:
The last change in on page 11, which 19 is in the second f ull paragra ph, the second pa ragraph under 20 " Conclusions."
The number "30 percent" should read "35 21 percent," so as to be consistent with Section 3.2 of th e 22 S EE.
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MR. TREBY I have one last matter.
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2 to the changes, there was a cover 19tter sent, and-there is 3 one error in that, letter.
We mention page 22 of the SER,
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4 and wha t we meant to say va.3 page 11 of the SER.
5 The last matter I just want to bring tothe 6 attention of the Eca rd and the parties is if that they have 7 completed their consideration of the demonstration program 8 and thus plan to issue an amendment approving it, our 9 present plans are to issue this by next Tuesday.
10 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
That is, I assume, providino that 11 the data that are furnished by Applicant are sa tisf actory?
12 MR. TREBY:
Yes.
The reason I raise this is 13 because we had talked in terms of them having a week to do 14 it.
Now, if we are going to issue our document by next 15 Tue sday, they are going to have to supply that affidavit 16 f aster than a week.
I 17 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
I think we will anly require that 18 they do it within a week, but they will understand that 19 issuance of the licensing a mer.dmen t might have to be held up i
20 if the data is not received in time to analyze it for the 21 issuance of the licence.
22 Is that acceptable, Mr. Churchill?
23 MR. CHURCHILL:
Yes.
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24 CHAIRMAN PLCCK:
Are there sny f urther comments?
25 MS. FALK:
Only a question.
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3 CHAIPMAN BLOCKS We expect, with what has just 4 transpired, we can issue it today.
And to be clear, while 5 ve allowed you to appeal the record of the transcript, the 6 transcriptual record of the hearing, the time limit for the 7 appecl would only start commencing based on the service of 8 the decision, the formal dacision.
9 MS. FALK:
How was that going to be mailed to us, 10 may I ask?
11 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
We will attempt to mail it by 12 express mail.
We need to fill out the forms and get it 13 d on e, but that should be express mail either this afternoon 14 or tomorrow, and the copies to the other parties should be 15 available by the close of business.
That is our plan.
It 16 is possible we would have to miss th e deadline.
Put this 17 evenino, posting with the secre tary, and therefore it would 18 be done early this morning.
But we would mail them and make 19 them available a t as early a point as possible.
20 MR. CHURCHILL:
Your Honor, does express mail go 21 to Madison?
22 CHAI,RMAN BLOCK:
We use an express service, not 23 express mail.
24 MR. CHURCHILL:
All right.
25 CHAIRMAN BLOCK:
Any further questions?
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CHAIRMAN BLOCKa There being no f urther matters of
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O nuCtExa nEautarOaY CO2,241ssIOu This is to certify that the attached proceedings before the O
in the matter of:
WISCONSIN ELECTRIC & POWER COMPANY POINT BEACH NUCLEAR PLANT UNITS 1 & 2 Date of Proceeding: November 5, 1981 Docket flumber: 50-266-OLA & 50-301-OLA Place of Proceeding:
Washington 2, D.
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were held as herein appesrs, and that this is the original transcript thereof for the file of the Ccamission.
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