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Partial Transcript of 790804 Hearing.Handwritten Notes Encl
ML19322D629
Person / Time
Site: Crane Constellation icon.png
Issue date: 08/04/1979
From: Troffer
METROPOLITAN EDISON CO., PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON THE ACCIDENT AT THREE MILE
To:
References
TASK-TF, TASK-TMR NUDOCS 8002180052
Download: ML19322D629 (11)


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16 so I set up this specific system for it.

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reason for having him available, to be able to 7

respond to unusual events? -

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8 A

one of his primary duties would be to advise 9

the shift supervisor of any emergency situation.

10 Q

Is the concept to have the shift 11 engineer available on very short time?

12 A

Yes, to be on-site and to b'e available within 13 a phone call, to rush to the control room, so 14 that should there be a problem, he can help with it.

15 Q

would that shift engineer be given other 16 or any administrative duties?

17 A

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18 to sinimize any administrative duties, and to 19 enhance the technical engineering responsibilities.

20 To a large measure it is to be a training assignment.

21 He will be working toward his formal NRC license.

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