ML19318A742
| ML19318A742 | |
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| Site: | Crane  |
| Issue date: | 09/21/1979 |
| From: | Molloy K DAUPHIN COUNTY, PA, Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel |
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Before de Atczn.c Saferf ad Licesing Scard
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Ibcket No.30-320 (2 ree Mile Island Nuclear Generating Staticn, Urit 2)
PREPARED 'IESTIlthY OF KEVIN J.10110Y Q.
Please state your name, address ad cumt occu ation.
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My name is Kevin J. Molloy.
I reside at Miller Road in the township 1
of L:ndcaderry, P m ylvania.
I an c=rently ecolcoyed as Di:ector of Dauphin Cot:nty Civil Defense.
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Mr. Itlicy, would you desc -ibe briefly de cctnty civil defense v
organi-=rdmn1 strucere md its comecticn with other civil defense d
orgar ~=r'T.s in Pe=sylvarda.
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Le civil defense crganizatica in Pennsylv:=r a cperates at 6ree d
principal levels.
'Ihere is the State Couned' of Civil Defense a d its staff, headcrartered here in Harisburg.
Mr. Wil14=m<ca in his testi-
- rny desc _bes in more der:41 tha4 stuer._~e ad role.
I'ec, each county in Pe:nsylvania has a catney civil defense crganization with a directer and staff such as curs in Dauchin Ccunty.
Firs 1'y, each city, bercugh. tcwn and temship within de Cm- % wealth has civil defense crganizaticns.
'Ihese ::e refer to as local civil defense crganizaticas.
Seth de cetntf and ice =1 civil defense strr. ceres are patterned after de state crgar Stien wi.h a gcverning body s "' =- to dat of de d
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State Comcil ad staffs.
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City, Bercugn and Town Ccunc41= md by Boards of Tcwnship Cam 4ssioners
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v and Superviscrs.
~b.e staffs of comty md local civil defense crgan-imaticns, too, are structured like that of the State Council's Staff, with a director and depu*4a= md spac4al d ed sub-groups resocnsible for orgmi nedon md cocrdinacim with other agencies ad groucs such as fire and rescue groups, medical ad health care crganizaticas and entities, and transpcrar'nnal rescurces ad fac4'4 ties.
Coordinatica of ccenty orgard-aticns with the state level en the one hand md local civil defense g=ups en the other hand is constat.
We operate generally under stat is termed the "cFain cenceat" wheraby local problecs er m encies are fi st h a dled at de local level with the ccency level being kept advised. As necessary, local org minatices
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not caly advise de county but call unen then for stw_ and assistance'.
'V At de county level a s mi'w pattern is follcwed, keeping the state i
staff infc: ned, but bringing to bear county resources ad cocrdinating assistance among de local civil defense orgminat_cns.
In de same way, counties em seek assistace fran the state's resources in those situaticns which dictate the need.
'Ihe "cFain" systen is, however, not a cne-way st eet.
Sane problers are f=st known to the state or reccgnized 4 naddately as being W dacpread ccncern.
In these cases, informatica and reewmed:rdons can just as easily #1cw dcun de chain involving a nunber of comty ad local crganizaticnal efferts.
Q.
Would you please desc-ibe in rcre de-241 your p C c"1=
organizatica in Dauphin Ccunty?
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Dau hin Countv curently is st:..ctred and coerates under de State
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Disaster Operaticns and Assisa.ca Plan.of November,1973, which N
was adopted for use in Dauphin Cotney by resolution of de Dauphin f
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County Ce icners in 1974 We have been e king for scme t=ne en the s
preparation of our own plan for Da=hin Ccunty and when it is cocoleted it will likely be the plan used.
h de re.aned a, we shall continue to use the guidance provided by the State's plan, and a= enc:nents and updates of it, to govern cur orge " tion.
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'Ihe Dauphin County Cccmissioners sera as our ccency civil defense council and derefore are respcnsible for directica and ccatrol of all county disaster cperaticns and overall coordinaticn of local disaster operaticas carried cut within the county.
'Ihe ccencil's respcnsibilities are discharged through its staff, of sich I an the direct r.
LWa me in Da=hin County are an assistat director and indiv4+=1= respersible der the various functions which cur crganizatica per#cr=s.
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County Civil Defense has a fall-tire sixteen wher and part-time five s
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Our headquarters is in the Da=hin County Cot = t' ruse.
Dauphin Ccunty's civil defense headcuarters serves routinely as the hub of energency cenicaricns and directica in Da=hin County, with the exceptica of de City of Har:-isbtrg, ad to scre e:ctent the Boroughs of Middletown and Hershey, wi,4ch also =ainr=4n c=micaricn centers.
Fcr this purpose, we are =anned 24 het=s per day to receive fire, police and other emergency en11s and recuests for in#cr=ation a d assistance.
h 1976, we received 30,826 police calls, 2,504 fire calls, and 4,784 a=bulance calls.
Dtring 1976, we also used de C m.malth law enforcemme assistace net ak c%cte-155,000 H a=
i and legged 174,232 inc e.g and cutgoing telep = e calls.
Our c cranicatiens cacabi'dties are exx.sive, md de police,
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fira, and a=bulance syste=s have been insr=ed within the past three
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b additicn to gear ccvering four fire f ecuenc4ac (33.80,
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> y) 33.84, 33.86 and 33.90 chz) and six police frecuencies (460.025, 460.050, 460.075, 460.100 =ht, and two confidenr4=1 frecuencies), we have CAP, citizens band, amateur radin (2 eter band), cobile telephcne, bio-medical teleret y and civil defense teletype capabili ies.
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the 33.90 cht frequency is the same used by the Middletown ad Hershey cermnicaticns centers, and is cocron as wal' wir.h Lancaster and York counties 2 4-5 gives us canstant coordinate caca'ci'i ies with these t
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b add 4tien, we have nineteen incaning telephane lines, scme of sich are for general public use and others of *4ch are reserved for specific purposes, such as direct lines with spec"n1 care fac4'ities and specific localities.
Power for all cur equipment is available both frco nv&.2 ad emergency sources.
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h rdmaa of disaster operacians of various types, our bandcuarters N
facilde,as serve as our "F.mergency Operatiens Center," (EOC).
At these times, in order to exccise proper and effective cent:cl and coordica-tien, our spaces are utilized by representatives of agencies such as the Red Cross, Coast Guard, CAP or Naticnal Guard, so act in cancert with us to ecce with any merf.
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M:at type of wrring system do you employ?
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We use a waming system which gives us the ca@ility of activating C
sirens by means of a tene alert systen.
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fire house has a sml1 conitor attached to its si en.
This acnitor is tuned to a steed #c tene; and when we push a but cn here in Har-isburg, the tene scends in the Icndender y fi e house, activating de siren.
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Mr. >biloy, are you f=414 with the Tcree Mile Island Nuclear Staticn, 2-(d thit 2, located in Dauchin County?
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Yes, to de extent at least that I icrw its locaticn -- I live within
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about fc= M'es of the site -- and leicw that its p=pese is to
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I shculd say, homver, that I an not a nuclear engineer or scientist and have no detailed i
working knowledge of the facility itself.
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Are you fMli-r with the ter=s "radicactivity" and "radiaticn"?
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Again, caly generally.
The Orrnmealth of Pecasylvania has prcmided cur orgmizaticn with infor=atica en rad 4=Hm and radioactive sub-stances md provided us with general guidelines for otr use in daaling with m encies which involve radicactive =ater' ole.
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Mr. Molley, are you fr414 wi-h Cententicn 8 which is at issue in 2-this proceedirg?
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Yes, I have been provided with a ccpy of the cententica and understand that cur ability to i=clenent protective actica masces, including (m) evacuatien if necessary, in the event of m accident at h ee Mile
.kJ Island with consequences to off-site areas, is questiened.
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let m ask iniHally, in view cf your statement that you have caly a
" general knowledge" cf the nuclear plant at Ihree Mile Island and of radin=ctive caterials, does the fact that you have 14-dred knowledge in these areas concern you as to your abilities to cope with a probles at bree RJ.e Island which results in radic1cgical censequences off-site?
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No, and for two principal reascas.
First, there are experts i w diately avni1nble to us who are capable of providing us with whatever tecirical infc=atica we need.
The Bureau cf Radioleg4 col F.ealth persennel and persennel fret Eree Mile Island would be av=4'ahle to us at de EOC cr by telephcne er radio shculd we require der =4'ed infor=aticn of this p
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M:re i=ocreantly, hcwever, let =e assca ycu that c= acticns
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T cr an event involving tcxic cbdrale er floods are not dependent upcn
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' the need for a detailed knowledge of de substmce aga.:.nst sinich we t
need to protect perscos who could be affected. Wat we need to bow is generally de narre of the problem, seccadly what segment of the public will be or could be affected, and sat actica en our part is reenmv:-Ided.
With this infctmaticn, cur organizational structure and cocar.icaricns capabilities allow us to respcnd very quickly, calling upcn and coordinatig datever gru:os or agencies the situation dictates.
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Mr. bbiloy, for illust ative purposes, let me describe an event postulated I
to ocer at ?ree Mile Island, Unic 2, *bh results in releases of radioactivity which are caded off-site by the wind, and ask you to i
enms-it on your abilities to ecpe with such a problem.
For dese pur-poses, assume:
(1) that the release f em Free Mile Island is borne r
by the wind north, in de direction of Middletown; (2) dat the =agnire.de
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of the radioactive materdala released is such dat it is reenmw-ided that evacuaticn be dcne of all perscns in the area described by that o
segment of a five-cile circle arcund Bree Mile Island with lines drawn frcm the center of the circle at the Isl m d to its ciretaference, 11.25 degrees on either sw of due north; (3) that you have less thm cne hour to ecz::alete ev:mestica of those perscos located closest to the Island, less dan three hours to complete evacuaticn of those perscns located en the edge of the more deumly pcpulated areas of Mi.ddletown and' Royalten, less than five hours to c'cx::plete evacuaticn cut to the center of Middletown, and a ceuole acre hours to ccurlete evacuaticn out to five miles, beycnd which there is no need for evac"=ticn;. md (4) dat de reccrz:: ended evacuaticn rouci.g shculd be perpendicular a che directicn of de radioactive pitne, i.e., east or west.,
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I start by observing that because of the di=ctica asst:med dis hypo-
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thetical seems to me to present us with the rest severe problem, in f, mV) ter=s of the abil4cy to evacuate, of my problem that could be posed.
Releases in vir~=11y my other directicn muld involve caly a fracticn of the people involved in 61s case.
Re area of i= pact here would include landenderry Temship (with a populatien of abcut 4,000), Royalton Borough (with about 1,100 residents), W.ddlecom Borough (whose popula-tien is eggwidmately 10,000), and portices of Ivar Skrara, Highspire ad Cer:f Tomships.
In all, we are talking about an evacuatica of as rany as 18,000 pers.s f: cm sic d' ~#erent local' ties.
An accident of this =agnit"da would involve the local, county a d state civil defense crganizations.
Le headcuarters of de State, Da=hin County (ad probably lancaster and York ccaties) as well as localities involved, uculd immdiately be ecmerced in EDC's from N
which to direct and coordinate our activities.
After the initial call frcm the site to the State civil defense duty officer, the State duty 4
officer to 3RH and to us, ad 3RE's call back to the site, ccarunica-tiens would be established linking our EOC with dat of the state ad those in the localities, as well as the Dree Mile Island site.
Le following would occur.
The dree dispatchers (=y em assistants md :rfsdf) muld sfruitmecusly begin a series of notificatn.cns.
22 siren wrdng system would be activated in Landcnderry Tomsbip, Mi.ddle-tem, lower Swatara and Fighspire, so dat voltnteers would be called to their respective fire ad ambulance staticas.
We w.:ld notiff de Lancaster Cctnty Civil Defense Directer, so dat he could take appro-priate acticn; and we uculd notify de cent:rl tem: of Ec.__3 burg Internaticnal Airport, so dat air traffic ccnal measures cculd be v
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institutei. We would maintain an cpen lins with the State Polico and use their t ailer-type cmmnicaricos center as a emmnd post in the 4
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Vine Street extended area of Icnde ;derry Township.
We m uld also be in touch with de chi ds at all local fire statiens and all local chiefs of police.
tey m uld set up deir own plans to go to affec:ed areas and tell people to evacuate.
We muld noti #y the news media, our Fad Cross perscnnel, and local civil defense ofNimls in de areas 4
to *dch people m uld be moved.
We m uld also notify cur transportation officer, s.o bas access to buses fer t ansporting eva We muld, J
of course, -=dntain contact with the State Civil Defense Council.
L e public uculd be advised in several ways.
In this area there j-are at least six radio stations (both M md IM are covered) and three televisicn stations.
'Ihese media can be used either by our requesting their amouncers to broadcast alerts and infernaticn or by acnouncement direct 1'f frcm the state civil defense headcuarters wtich has the capa-i
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bility to be pacched into the news med4a for public anncmescents of this type.
In adddrien, local police and fire police would use bull horns to make a=cencements in deir respective cmm-nities.
- Finally, efforts at door-to-door notificatien woulc be under a. ken, and particula" 4
attenticn would be given to the needs of spard=14ced far414:ies and individuals equiring pereer=14 ed t eatment such as de handdreped.
As an example of speedal attentien, all schools have evacuaticn plans and greaticn available to irclement those plans; spec 4=1 procedures have been develcped and prov_'ded to sc' col n+4n4 =traters sich describe their responsibi'i y to evacuate and centinue to t
at end to de needs of de students.
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Ss trincipal mode of evacuation is by M vate vehicle.
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police have respcnsibility for traffic centrol.
Additicnally, civu defense has cocpiled der ='1ed infu aticn en t ansportatica ecuignent such as public and Mvate buses, cabs, vans and held-peers wSich could be called upon as necessary to provide suppleital modes of transportaticn.
As menticced earlier, in a situaticn of this type de civil defense headquarters serve as EOC's and representatives of numerous agencies repcrt to de EOC's to coordinate their agencies' roles in de everall respcnse.
In this case, cne such agency would be the Red Cross who would tale the lead in :cbil4
.g = ass care fer414 ties.
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&. Molloy, the actual i:=lenentaticn of your p12.s o w n to rely en both the willi gness and readiness of :&m of the general public to respcnd.
Could you emv-it en 61s aspect of a potened*1 evacuaticn.
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thfertunately for the persons involved, but fer==ately for cur ptnxses, residents cf =any parts of Pennsylvania and in partie 12-dose here in Dacchin County located alcng de Suscueha:=a are not us 41'n with evacuatica.
During periods of flooding, =any pecple have been evact.ated in dis same area.
Reir willingness to cooperate in a real energency is remarkable.
Bey assist each other, folicw cur inst:xtions and, our experience has been, evacuate in an crderly fashicn.
I should point out that all we can usually do is ensure dat'pecole get the werd en the need for, and ree
.daticas ccacerni g de method of, evacc.atien.
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present the=selves in the accident sir.:stien we are r'a=1%g wid here.
For de rest part, however, pecple react very all and cur emerience wi d these W.o do not has been l ured to isolated occ=rences.
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On de basis of yce understanding and kncwledge of bo6 de auderities' abilities and de p61ic's reacticn, wculd ycc please assess the capa-l l
bility to evacuate de pecple involved 5 cur assued case against de time ecnstraints pesculated?
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It is tf cpinicn that we cculd effect and cc=olete r. evaucaticn of this type wi6in the periods aliotted us.
I base cy cpinica en '.v weddng knowledge of de civil defense crgrizatices at all levels, r.d =y ererience with de other crgrd:stiens, anderi las and agerdes *dch
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would be involved here.
My e:gerience wid dose g: cups includes
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6e authorities as well as de public's respense.
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khat asseances do you have for ycur ccnfidence dat such an evacuatica could be successfully cc_ led cut?
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First of al' and probably cost i =crtant, we hzve an assced ccenrica-l tiens capability. As I described earlier, we have a variety of eccanicaticns gear and can pass infu ation, ren., sdaticns and orders to all ccncerned h c:inutes.
Our ability to cocrdinate de varicus rescurces dat =ight be brought to bear is bc=e cut in drills sich we cend"ct and in cur daily 5=cticns. We are an sqency-c-lented orged:stien.
khat is an e ergency to rst of de general p61ic is reutine to us.
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to emrgency md disaster sic:aticns, md sile ferrcately we do not often have to reso. cad to events of de tarir da pcstulated here, we have been called upcn to ecpe wid large proble=s ed have preved cur capabilities.
Dauphin County in the past several years has suffered fr::s a variety of prcble=s, refng fran de 1972 floods caused by E _icane Agnes to
-vities being left wiscut water as a result of de mecely severe weather that we enecuatered dis year.
We also have da=1r vid a plane crash, a passea.ger bus accident ad a t ain derai'w,t.
In each case, I feel that the pr blen was handled in a safe, efficient ec:r er by erergency persemel.
In -am of area affected, de 1972 fleed was de worst, with scm 507. of the County's cc-mrities hit by the floeding waters of de Suscuehanna River md varicus other creeks md streams.
I was not in ch% e of Civil Defense at de edm; but f cn wt.at infer-O l
caricn I have available, ever 10,000 residents were affected by t'is
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In rany cases, iis cent evacuaticn.
2.ere were shelters set up in 18 c m.ities in Dauchin County at dat tire.
Since 1972, we have cpened a lesser nuier of sheltars during different disasters, but we have iteroved cur perferrance in te:::s of c
,ricaciens with dese facilities, de manpcwer to cperate den cd cur ability to get then cpened quickly.
A16cugn we are r=1Mng abcut a large group of pecple, I an ccnfident dat the energency wrscenel in Da=hin County and de citizens de=selves can handle c~ry s *cuatica.
.an erce:ely i=ocreant point to 1er is that we in Pe chin County, incl"Adng civil defense, fire, a:bulance er police, are well aware of de large a rmt of rescurces av==nle and wculd not hesitata to use dese resccces st.en in i
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With respect to training and drills, have ycu participated h dills in connecticn with D.ree Mile Islanc?
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Yes, in several ways.
First, Dauphin Cetrity Civil Defanse has been involved each year in drills at the site -Aich include testing ceni-cations between the site and State Civil Defense, BRE and county civil i
defense organizaticns.
Our headg:arters is contacted at these times in order to test cur c e nicaricns.
Second, I personally have accepted i
Met opolitan Ediscn Ca=any's invitaticn an two occasicns to cbsere dese drills at the site itself.
Finally, in additicn to c,y duties as Director cr Dariin County Civil Cefense, I seree as a volunteer fireman in Iaidendet f Tcwnship.
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the uczkings of the local fire cccpanies and their training programs (and in pc_.dcular haw participated in actual emergendas and drills i
l associated wid D.ree Mile Island.)
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Mr. Molley, it is suggested that cnly 6:cugh live ests involving de public can it be shewn dar ycur evacuatica plans are adecuate.
v;culd you please cet en this suggestien.
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I am aware of dis suggestien and have heard it before.
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reasces, I do not support the use of live tests which include evacuaticn of de public.
First of all, the authcrities and ti-ad ecuipment at all levels, state, county and local, are trained and actually drilled a
both by si=ulated emergencies and by actual emergencies.
To $is extent live tests are ccnducted.
Involving de public, hcwever, is a dd ##erent natter.
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h de public's abd' ties and will' r.ess to respend in actual emerge.cy
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&zt, I have no ccnfidence at all dat a drill like this wec1d be meaningful.
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participate.
Pecple don't like to have $a4 rcutines dis:.=ted unless a real need exists ed to scoe extent I sustect dey wedd be werrhd abcut traffic proble=s and even possible lecting.
Of ecurse, scoe people would respond, but it is trf cpinicn that 64 vast majority would net.
Le expendit=e of rescurces necessary to set up such a drd11 wculd for the :: cst part be wasted.
As to dese who would patcipate, hcwever, I have ancther cencern.
Obviously, e prgencies related to bree Mile Islmd, er other types of energencies, have a way of oce.>.g quite unlike drills.
We at civil defense and the other emergency respcnse organizaticns underst e d nis and provide in our plans and gwced=es for suffiedm t flexibility to react to each situatien in de %g we iate way.
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i g however, dat if we were to ccnduct a drill, say of de type assM here, and pecple did respcnd, if and when we had an act"=1 e::argency in which 6e preper response called for evaucaricn in a different direction, for exarole, we could have exacerbated de proble=s assoc 4=ted with centrolled crderly =cvement of pecple by having trained den to respcnd Merently.
In shcrt, I do not faver live tests of evacuaticn involving the public because I do not see dad need, I expect that da results would be meaningless, and I an emce-ad dat de results cenld prove ccunterproductive.
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The following is a record of education and employment:
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EDUCATION V
Graduated from St. Michael's High School in Northampton, Mass. in 1963 Attended Westfield State Teachers College in Westfield, Mass. for 1 year Graduated frem Radio Engineering Institute in Sarasota, Florida in 1967 with a 1st class Radio Engineers License Completed the first 2 phases of a 4 phase program offered by the Defense Civil Preparedness Agency Staff College in Battle Creek, Michigan Completed 3 home study correspondence courses offered by the staff college Completed 3 state sponsored seminars dealing with many subjects including business magagement, organizational structure, and specific emergency pre-paredness program areas Attended a week long seminar in January of 1975 sponsored by DCPA and State Radiological Health officials on " Emergency Planning for rixed Nuclear Fa-cilities."
Completed several courses offered by Extension Course Institute of the Air Force University
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Served in the US Army for 3 years active duty including tours in Gemany, Thailand, and several states EMPLOYMENT RECORD WDEW Radio, Westfield, Mass., 1967-1968 (Staff Announcer)
WFEC Radio, Harrisburg, PA, 1968-1974 (News Director)
Civil Defense / Communications Director Dauphin County, Harrisburg, PA,1974 to present o)
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