ML19308C522
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| Issue date: | 10/12/1979 |
| From: | Neely D, Rivenbark G NRC - NRC THREE MILE ISLAND TASK FORCE, NRC OFFICE OF INSPECTION & ENFORCEMENT (IE REGION I) |
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IN THE MATTER OF:
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Place - King of Prussia, Pennsylvania Date.
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MR. GEORGE RIVENBARK ij NRC - Special Inquiry Group a0 on Three Mile Island a
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2 (Whereupon,the reporter marked a letter dated 3
October 4, 1979 to Donald Neely as Exhibit A (5165); and
" Donald Neely's resume as Exhibit B (5166).)
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MR. RIVENBARK:
This is a deposition being con-l E
6 h) ducted by the U. S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission's Special 7
Inquiry Group on Three Mile Island of Mr. Donald R. Neely, a ( radiation specialist, in Region I of the NRC at King of l
9 Prussia, Pennsylvania, on October 12, 1979.
jo Present in addition to Mr. Neely are Mr. Peter ji ' Sicilia, Jr., and George Rivenbark of the Special Inquiry d
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13 Mr. Neely, I have been delegated the Commission's
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a authority to administer the oath.
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16 was called as a witness and, having been first duly sworn by 17 ] Mr. George Rivenbark, was examined and testified as follows:
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Q Mr. Neely, you received a two-page letter dated l
- 70) October 4, 1979, from Mr. Rogovin which described the nature 1
21 y of our interview and the possibility of its becoming public; 22 is that right?
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Yes, I did.
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I have an item here that the court reporter has
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tell me if this is a copy of t e letter that you received from g
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Q Have you read the letter and do you understand it?
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A Yes, I have.
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Mr. Neely, you brought with you this morning this
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71 one-page resume that we have marked Neely Exhibit B.
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A Yes.
One note that I don't have all the training n
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But this is a summary?
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Yes.
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Mr. Neely, is it correct that you'were in the first u
l 15 group that was sent to the TMI site on April 28?
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That is true.
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Q At that time had you had any previous experience at l
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the TMI plant itself?
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No, I had not.
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Q Had you had any previous experience in a B & W 21 i plant?
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No, I had not.
I correct that.
Yes, I have at i
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llad you participated in previous emergency drills?
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At other plants?
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A Yes.
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Where?
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As an observer or participant?
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A Georgia Power Plant Hatch, Rancho Seco and observers ii 7 !j at Vermont Yankee.
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Q When you were a participant in an emergency drill 9 Il wha t did you do in those?
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I was involved with setting up the actual event and h
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Q By setting up the event, does that mean set up the l
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Yes, as fa r a s wha t type of drill' and the...
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In those where you were an observer what did you 15 :
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The actual implementation of the drill.
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On the part of the --
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As a consultant to the licensee.
Not having exper-l tise in emergency drills but being on site as a consultant, 20 n
Q Was this as an NRC employee?
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No, it was not.
At Verraont Yankee it was.
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Back to the previous experience at the B & W plant 24 l was that as an NRC employee?
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No, it was not.
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Q Was it as an employee of the Rancho Seco?
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A No, Contractor Chem Nuclear Systems.
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Before you left for the site with that first group i
4 on April 28 did you r eceive any instructions from Headquarters 5f regarding what your role was to be with the group and what you 6f were to do at the site when you got there?
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Headquarters being Bethesda?
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Q Excuse me, it seems that I refer to Headquarters.
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I will try to refer to it as the 10f Region Of fice from now on.
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A Yes, from the regional office.
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Do you recall what you were told?
What sort of 13!
instructions, what you.were told about your role was to be at j ~)
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I was told to form an emergency team from the 16 ] regional office and to act as the senior health physicist for li 17 4 the team at TMI.
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Was there any further instructions?
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No, j ust to report to the -facility.
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Then I take it that being told that you were to go i
21 to the facility, to form a team and you were to be the senior i
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health physicist that then you knew what you were supposed to f',
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Previous experience as well as instructions when 3
hired with the Commission as far as emergency training when
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This includes reading the region manuals?
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That is our responsibility.
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You arrived at the site and went to Unit I arriving i
s at about 1 a.m.; is that correct?
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Unit I was more like ten minutes after ten.
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-You went together witn Dr. Galina, Mr. Higgins, Mr.
a 11 il Plumice and Mr. Ron Nimitz to Unit I?
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Yes.
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A That is correct.
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1 believe-in previous discussions you had with t
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is k on that day that you have indicated that you established K
19j communications with the region a fter being in Unit I about l4
!i 20 !. ten minutes and that you did that from the shift supervisor's 21 office at Unit I.
Do you recall that?
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Q When you made that call, made contact back to the 1
24 Region Office here at King of Prussia did they give you any i
25l instructions at that time or any further information?
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A The individual that made the contact was actually 1
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Dr. Galina?
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Dr. Calina.
And shortly thereafter I went with Mr.
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a 71 Region I that I should go to Unit II Control Room, l
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Q Did anyone tell you what you ought to be doing in i
1 9j the Unit II Control Room?
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No, they did not.
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When you got to the Unit II Control Room I believe y
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j3 briefed you on conditions in the auxiliary building and the
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A raat's correct.
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Do you recall what he told you in general terms L
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A There was a discussion of. radiation levels were very 18 a
19 high in the auxiliary building, fuel handling building.
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j control panels, air activity, the measurements he was taking 21 22 in the control room.
That's it basically.
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When you went into the Unit II Control Room did anyone brief you on the reactor and the support system status 24 25 !
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A Yes.
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Do you recall who that was and what you were told in 3 lll general terms?
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and myself.
At that time they indicated that there was a n
9 ;j bubble in the steam generator loop and the reactor head area.
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Q As you left to go into the Unit II Control Room did
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After you went in Unit II did you have further Ii la / communications while you were in the Unit II with Dr. Galina 19 y or the other _ team members?
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No, it was several hours lapsed before we had 0
21 !! communication between Unit I and II because of the unavaila-l 22 l bility of phones.
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Q Af ter the phones were established did you have need i
to communicate with them?
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Later in the a fternoon.
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While you were still in Unit II?
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A Yes.
We had I think I recall we had some conversa-3 i tions.
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Do you recall the thrust of the conversations?
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A It was discussions of the fact that the Regional h
6 :l Office was trying to get ahold of me to -- that they wanted us i-7 ll to go to the governor's quarters for briefing.
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Q Mr. Smith in a conversation we had with him yester-9 ] da y, that i Mr. George Smith of the region office here, 10 indicated that in his conversations with the team at the site 11 they he had indicated that you and Mr. Higgins should go to 3
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12 brief the governor.
His recollection was that he did not ask 73 13 3 that Mr. Galina should go.
Is that your recollection?
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There was -- I don't know how -- I wasn't involved i
15j in that phone call.
I don' t know how Mr. Galina got involved 16j in it.
But the message that I had was that the three of us --
1 17 !l when Mr. Galina called me, myself, Mr. Galina and Higgins were I
18 i supposed to report to the Governor's Mansion and there would 19 ]l be a highway patrolman at the site to pick us up.
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You received that informa tion from Mr. Galina ?
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A Yes.
It's been awhile, but it seemed like tha t --
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getting confused on which one I talked to at the time.
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That's correct, because I did have a conversation.
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And then I talked to George Smith at the regional i
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While you were in the Unit II Control Room how did 1
a you and Mr. Higginbottom handle the telephone communications f
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back to the region?
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You mean Mr. Higgins?
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Excuse me, Mr. Higgins, thank you, a
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The Unit II phone was set up mainly for operations.
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Later on that day other personnel from Region I showed 14 15 4 up at the site.
And they assigned a phone coordinator or l
15j communicator to the phone.
There were times when I was on 1
a 17 ] the phone with the individuals from Region I for the opera-1 18 3 tions.
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That's from the telephone in Unit II?
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You were on the phone with the people from the
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Yes.
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were the ones that were manning the phones in the region?
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A Yes, the people in the Unit II supervisor's office
! were operations type from the Regional Office.
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And I worked out of that office.
And when the i
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6 ll would get hold of the NRC inspector.
And that's how we would il 7 i get on the phone.
And sometimes they would want to know n,
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And I would have to go ask somebody 1
9 l' wha t in forma t ion they were looking for or get Mr. Higgins to f
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I'm not sure whether we were assigned 15 16 ] to the phone full time or not.
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Q So it may be that at some time you are referring to f
20 n the instances when maybe the licensee would answer that phone 21 i; in the shift supervisor's office for Unit II?
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Q You did report some operational information back 3
over the telephone?
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A Yes.
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I believe you remained in the Unit 11 Control Room 6
until in the neighborhood of six o' clock; is that correct?
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A Yes.
Yes.
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Can you describe the kinds of things that you were 1
9 doing as best you can recall on Wednesday while you were in th a 10 Unit 11 Control Room?
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Unit II Control Room on the early afternoon was 12 ; observing the radiation monitors on the control panels.
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Can you tell me before we go beyond these radiation O
y monitors what these radiation monitors were indicating?
What i
15 areas were they recording radiation from?
A They were indicating gaseous particulate activities, 16 l 17 iodine activitics in the fuel handling building, auxiliary l building,radiationin.thecontainmentdomemonitor, control 18 j
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Do you want to continue telling me.what you were 21 doing?
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A Okay, that was pretty much what went on all day l
23 h long because after awhile most of them, 'the fuel handling
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ment, attending meetings on trying to get a status of the-1 (lgg 2
plant as far as entries people were going to try to make.
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off site.
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Would you describe this radio that you were listen-9 l ing to, what kind of information was coming off site?
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At times it was unclear who was talking, that people I
11 were reporting dose rates from different survey teams off site 12 i; And then there was c.ommunications between Unit I and Unit II b
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So there was some sort of speaker ~in the Unit II l
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Yes.
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Over this speaker there were conversations both from 20 W the field and from Unit I Control Room?
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Yes.
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When you were talking about these discussions that
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were held around the table were these operations discussions 24 as well as the radiological discussions?
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to get the reactor in a cool down situation and the overflow j
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of liquid in the auxiliary building, the tanks overflowed and 1
3 the sumps overflowed and how they were going to control the Q
'4' activity, the cirborne activity that had came about as a 5
result of these, the sump overflowing in the containment.
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These discussions you have described as being-7.
difficult to hear - or to follow.
Was that because of your 8
location in the control room or would you go into that a 9
little bit more?
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No, those particular ones there was no problem 11, except for talking and speaking through the respiratory 12 protection devices we were wearing.
That complicated things.
13 But the conversations I am referring to that -- could not hear 14 very well is when they were -- people were standing'around 15 piping diagrams, fscility layouts-when they were -- which Mr.
16 Dubiel was involved' in when they were trying to -- he was advisingthemonwha[teffect.itwould[hav'eby,changingvalve 17
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20 they would have on their rad waste systems.
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While you were in the control room and while these
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on charts for indicators were off scale?
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in the steam generator layout, hot-legs.
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Did you see anybody?
Do you recall seeing anybody i
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with a potentiameter going to some point to connect it as if
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as they do when they,, measure thermocouples they go to the l
10 terminals and connect the potentiameter?
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I do not recall seeing anybody since there were so i
12 many people in that room.
And being a health physicist I
.n 13 would stand back.
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I understand.
I am asking you operational questions 15 though, because I am really looking for anybody 'that over-i 16 heard certain bits and pieces,of ;information - that may or may 17 not have been floating around-the. control' room on that day.
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I can understand'that.
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Do you know' if the M$t Ed. people were 'awar~e 'of high 19 Q
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Were you aware of a 21 conversation between Mr. Stello and'Mr. Hitz?
Do you know who h
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Yes, I do.
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Do you know who Mr. Hitz is?
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Yes.
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Did you at that time?
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No, I didn't.
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That day in the control room you would not have i
6 recognized Mr..Hitz if you had seen him walking around?
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A No, I wouldn't.
I met Mr. Hitz later in Unit I.
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Q Do any of the questions that I have asked you, do i
9j they raise any recall at all of ever hearing anybody talk 10 ] about those kinds of things on Wednesday that would have been related to something like we have superheated steam in the 11 o
!i 12 " core, maybe the core is uncovered, should we blow the system
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Should we reduce the pressure to get on to RHR because i
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Not independently of that but --
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A I remember, it's about the core possibly being j
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But I ' can' t remember whe ther it was on that day li 17 l or the next day.
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It is impor' tant to me as to the specific time.
I can't...
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Q Did anybody from Met-Ed on Wednesday come up to you O
l 21 i and say there is a containment pressure spike.
We had a con-m 22 tainment pressure spike today earlier?
A You are talking about the hydrogen level?
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'up into the neighborhood of 28 psi inside of the containment?
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A No one brought that to my attention.
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Q Do you know Mr. Brian Mehler?
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Is he a Met-Ed --
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He is a Met-Ed person.
I believe a shift. supervisor 6
of Unit II?
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At that time I didn't know any of the shift super-8 visors.
9 MR. RIVENBARK:
Off the~ record.
10 (Discussion off the record.)
11 BY MR. RIVENBARK:
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Ray Smith and Walt Baunach of Region I arrived in 13 the Unit II Control Room at about 3 p.m.
in the afternoon.
14 Do you recall that?
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Do you recall whati.was your impression of their jobs 17 at that time?-
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My impression was that Mr. Bauna'ch-was to support 19 the operations part> of' the emergency and Mr; Smith was to --
20 as an investigator was also the communicator for the phone in 21 Unit II.
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In that role as the communicator in Unit II did Mr..
23 Smith relay questions to you from time to time or do you 24 recall?
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3 Q
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4 of those two individuals when they came into the room to give 5
them the status of what was going on?
A I think -- I don't know if we did it right away, 6
7 But through the course of the day they were -- it was dis-l 8f cussed with them.
9 Q
Did you think you had discussions with~them?
10 A
T don't know so much Mr. Baunach but Ray Smith since 11 we more or less shared the same type of functions.
12 ll Q
Did you know r.t t'na t time that Mr. Smith had had a 1
13 l health-physics background?
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A Yes, I did.
1 15 !
Q When you left Unit II to go to brief the governor t
i 16l is it fair to say that there was nobody lefE in Unit II to 17 look after any HP affairs that would need looking after in is l Unit II?
19 A
In the sense that Mr. Smith.is an-investigator and 20l his background is field facility health-physics, he is -- so, I
21 l there would not have been anybody as far as reactor inspection 22 Q
When you talked to George Smith on the telephone 23 about indicating that.you didn't think it was the best thing l
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- to do to leave to go brief the governor did any conversation 25 i take. place about specifically the fact that that'one room I
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Q Let me ask also if you felt that continued HP l
5 j! coverage in that specific room was necessary at that point?
A I indicated that to Mr. Smith that I did not advise 6
u J that the -- that I should be going on that trip to the 7q l
8 d Governor's Mansion, that we would be I guess left without 9
health-physics coverage there.
And it was later indicated 10!
that I was instructed to go.
I 11 j Q
You came back to Unit I later.on in the evening 1
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' after you initially left I believe because your trousers were u
13 0 contaminated and so you couldn't leave the plant to go to the e
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m, jahgovernor' sat the time that they wanted someone to leave and Ilgotothegovernor's; is that correct?
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A That's correct.
0 Q
When you came back you came back to the Unit I area, 17 is Did you ever go into Unit 11 a fter that that evening?
4 19q A
I don't recall-that.
My memory the best I remember i
20 [ is I went back to Unit I and got on the phone to the Regional li il 21 l Office and discussed the problems that were being encountered r~
22 out there.
U 23 Q
Do you recall what you did then aside from calling 1
24j the region office and telling them about the specific status m
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at the plant at that point from an HP point of view and were l
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you doing other things when you were in Unit I?
2 A
As I recall I was also checking the instrumentation.
3 in the control room in Unit I and looking at the plotting O
4 board as far as what the survey teams were reporting.-
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This plotting board, would you describe that briefly?
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6 A
The plotting board was a geographical layout of the 7
surrounding area of the plant and island broken down! to zones I
8 as far as whether they could identify where the survey teams 9
were and where the surveys were being made.
10 Q
Did it include off-site areas as well?
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Yes.
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12 Q
I believe you have indicated previously that you 13 were there then at the plant until 3 or 4 a.m.
in the morning O
14 at which time you -left, went to a motel for a short tiae and 15 returned about 6 a.m., a couple of hours later returned to 16 the plant?
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17 A.
That's true.
4 18 Q
Did Mr. PlumleeandMr..Nimitz[leaveatthesame l
19 time that you did or.did they. remain at. the site?
20 A
Before we had left the s'ite like about at. ten i
I 21 o' clock at; night some other members of the Region I staff
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. arrived at the ' facility from the --- with the mobile laboratory L) 23, whotwas at that point -- that-was Phil Stohr arrived.
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at :the facility to go out and collect some environmental f
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6 Q
These were samples taken on the site itself?
7 A
Ma, these were across the river around the observa-8 tion center.
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When.you returned to the site a couple of hours i
10 later on Thursday you returned to Unit I?
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Yes, we all did.
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When you returned to Unit I what did you do then?
i3 A
It seemed like one person, I think Mr. Galina took l
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.over the ' telephone as the communicator.
I think Mr. Plumlee I
15 i went over to Unit II.
And myself, I think I stayed in Unit I.
i 16 I may have gone over myself later on in the. morning.
But it e,
17 is hard to recall now.
l 18, Q
Are you aware or were'you. aware at the time on 19
' Thursday of' the releases from the waste gas decay tanks and
'akeup tanks?
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21 A
No, I was_not.
22 Q
I recall tha t there was still concern.on' Thursday
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morning for the releases from the water on theEfloor and.the 23 i t
24 cleanup of the water on-the floor?
25 A
Yes.
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2l someone during the day on Thursday but you are not aware of 4
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The only activity 1 knew that was getting out 5;
was the stuff that was just escaping out the plant fence and l
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stacks.
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8 ! Thursday?
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No, I did not.
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Q Were you involved in any way in the samples that l
11 ; were taken of reactor coolant or from the containment atmos-1 1
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No, I was not.
1 received data later to that effect.
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1 14 Q
By later you mean on the same day when the data was 15 generated like high levels in the vicinity of the samples when 16 it was pulled?
a 17 A
Not to that, no.
I became aware of the analysis 18 that had been performed as far as the isotopic makeup.
19 !i Q
On the detailed analysis?
il 20 !i A
Yes.
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21 jj Q
Do you recall where that was made, where that 1
0 22 ) analysis was made?
Was it made in the region --
23 A
That analysis from my understanding was flown by r
i 2a ! helicopter to Bethesda's laboratory.
i 25 Q
Do you know if there was a sample on Wednesday?
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I'm not sure.
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3 data till later.
I was not aware that these samples were
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was, they reported 1100 microcuries of activity.
6 Q
I have a note that indicates that somewhere in the 7
record.there was a 1200 mr per hour reading over the stack 8
at 0940 on Thursday which was again one of those that was 9
related to the releases from the makeup tanks or from gas l
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decay tanks.
Who would have relayed that information back to 1
11 l headquarters?
Can you postulate how that would have gotten l
12 back to headquarters?
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A I don't know whether that came through -- whether -
nO 14 this would have come through Unit I or Unit II telephone.
15 Q
Now let's think about that.
The Unit II' telephone 16 was the one that'went to the --
17 A
Unit 11 telephone being hooked up'to'the head-18 quarters for the r egional office, where. I' am' talking about NRC 19 phones.
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But now the communicatio'n's with thcl helicopter
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I!m not sure about that because at one point on
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And whether that:was the --
25, I don't know.
I would think it would come in over Unit I.
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Q Can you recall any specific or special highlights of llgg ~
2 your activities on Thursday?
3 A
Thursday I spent a considerable amount of time llg 4
involved with the liquidation charges associated with the 5,
industrial waste process system.
6 Q
I am aware of your previous testimony on where you 7
indicated it took three or four hours of your time?
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That's correct.
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Q Anything other than the' liquid waste?
10 A
That was pretty much the extent of it, trying to get it information for people in the headquarters and regional 12 offices to describe the system and where did the water inven-l 13 tory come from, what" taps, what lines ~ fed into it just so 1
-l h 14 their -- it was for headquarters information about i.aking a 15 decision on whether they wanted to terminate the teleases of 16 that discharge.
17 Q
Do you recall how late you were at the site on 18 Thursday when you :left?,
19 A
R1ybe seven',,cigtt o' clock or nine o'c}ock some of 20 the other people showed up from the regional office.
That was 21 on Thursday.
But I'm not sure this time what the time was.
I 22 Q.
Would you believe it was late in the day?
l 23 A
Yes, we were working long hours.
And time was l
24 nothing anymore, t
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Q Do you remember whether at that time you went by the MO%iCW ST E h04R A P*stC S E m oC E, 14 9 3 OLD M4LL RO A D W T O MI SSING PA.
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generally what happened during the. day in a debriefing type of 3'i situation?
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I can't remember.
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5 Q
Do you ever recall doing that at the end of a shift, l
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going by the IE trailer or the van to brief them on what you 7
knew about what happened during the day on your shift?
8 A
I'm not sure because I'm a little uncertain.
j 9I Another individual from Region IIIsupervisor had shown up.
And I
10 he'may have been reporting-that type of information-because he 11l was there when we had a discussion with the radiation protec-
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12 tion manager supervisor.
i 13 Q
Was he working in the same area and at'the-same i
9 14 time that you were?
15 A
ies,'he was in Unit I.
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Over the same time period that you were there?
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Later on Thursdhy.
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What Ilam, driving at is this is something' that you would talk to him ahiout and then he 'might, then carry some 1
19 20 place?
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lSo you don't know whether the information that you i.
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Most of my information was directly back to l
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Did that continue a f ter Friday when Mr. Smith and 3
Mr. Grier came to the site?
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A Yes, we were -- we had open lines all the time.
5 And we were either getting information for the region or l
6 passing information back.
At some time we actually got into l
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a routine of every hou we would pass data back.
8 Q
When you passed data back was it always going from 9
the Unit I telephone to an HP-type of an individual on the 10
~ telephone in the region office?-
11 A
Yes, it was.
12 Q
Do you-recall what time you came to the site on m
13 Friday?
14 A'
Friday afternoon I think it was four or five o'clockm 15 Q
So that means then that you were not present during 1
16 g the makeup tank and waste gas decay tank releases Friday 17 morning that were the b'ackground to' the evacuation recommenda-18 tions?
.I U ih fa,ct, it was just maybe 19 A
That's correct.
20 even la month ago when I even - found out 'about what the. levels 21 l were reported as the 3,000 millirem per: hour.
I was~at the i
22
' motel on Friday morning.
I think I woke up around 10:30 and s
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23 heard'some sirens outside.
And the first. thing I thought of 24 was that, you know, well I aircady got a phone' call from Mr.
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Plumlee' that we had reinforcements coming in.
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had been talking about evacuation.
When I hcard the sirens I g
2 knew that they had gone into an evacuation.
But it turned out 3
that wasn't what it was.
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Q'. Do you think we should' have evacuated knowing what 5
you know about the condition at th'c plant?
6 l
A llad I known that they were discharging those tanks 7
like that, yes, I think there should have been some~1ocal a ' evacuation maybe.
9 Q
Whodo you think would have' been from an HP point of
, views who do,you think would have been monitoring the licen-10 l
11 see's activities in the waste gas decay tank areas and on the l
12 makeup tank areas on Thursday night and Friday morning?
l 13 A
From the NRC?
G 14 Q
Let's begin with on Thursday who might it have been?
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15 Who would you have taought?
16 A
Maybe Mr. Plumlee might have been over there and 17 aware of it.
I don't know.
But he left that, night with me 18 because we were riding -- taking the same car back to the l
l 19 motel.
I'm having 'trbubic.even placingfwho~ stayed there.
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20 Q
But is that the kind of an activity, though, that 21 would have then been something that the llP, NRC HP people 22 would have tried.to follow to see what the licensee was doing 23 and to track the releases?
24 A
It is hindsight now.
But looking --:had I ocen 4
4 25 there myself I would have been questioning the' licensee's' 5
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decision to do that.. In fact, I think myself I would have g
2 notified the region immediately of their intent.
3 Q
Based on your previous experience in the control g
4 room of Unit 11 and your indication of the difficulty of l
5 following precisely what the licensee was doing and your 6
knowledge of what.the licensee HP people were doing would it i,
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have been likel'y that t. hey would have been able. to perform 8
such tan operation and an HP person in'the control room not 9
' knowing anything about it?
10 A
As closely as Mr. Dubiel was involved in the 11 operation in that control' room he was, in fact,.;1.h'ad concerns 12 because he was so directly. involved with the operatio'ns f 13 activity instead of implementing his radiation protection y
program -1 am sure that he, must have been directly involved in 15 that decision'.
16
-Q Do you think that the NRC HP person, and if there 17 was one, 1 don't know that there was at that moment, in'the f
18l control rcom would have been aware of that activity?
i 19 A
If he had'bken in' on 7-t sitting in on 'the discus-
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When you.came back to the plant on Friday afternoon 3
22' can you recall where you' wei e located and what you 'were.doing 23 in that time ' period?,
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.A Yes, we were located in-Unit I_ shift supervisor's
'25 office.
That was the'NRC health-physics quote operations
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Do you know what kind of activities you were carry-
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you will for me Friday, ~ Saturday and Sunday in summary 5
fashion unless there was some discrete differences or some 6
special highlights that come to mind at some particular time 7
related to something that you were doing?
8 A
Friday afternoon when I arrived at the site I had I
9; already had notification that there were additional people 10 [ from Region I arriving and that we were going to the three-11 shift operation.
And there would also be other radiation 12 specialists coming from the other regions and that myself, 13 i Mr. Yuhas and Mr. White would lead specialists on each of the la i shifts.
And eventually we had five specialists working under 15 l us on those shif ts.
On Friday we weren' t reallynintot that full i
16 i swing yet because everybody hadn't arrived yet.
But I think 1
17 l Mr. Suravian (phonetic) and I think Mr. Plumlee were on my 18 shift at that time, 19 I So, most of that a f ternoon. and part of the evening h
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20 we were being briefed on what! our role was g'oing to be and actually setting up t3 go into an inspection and supportive 21 22 mode.
So, from then'on what we did is we assigned different 23 individuals on each shift to take different one would be on 24 Unit.I, one would be on Unit II and to start making surveys, 25' radiation measurements,. gather data and conduct outside surveys.
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1 We were designated as the in-plant health-physics group.
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Q Did the arrival of the NRR people at the site impact 1
3 ' your operations in any way?
Did you coordinate with them?
ll) 4 A
The -- we did not coordinate ourselves with the NRR i
5j people on the island.
In fact, the only time I became aware l
6j of their existence is at the bus stop in front of the observa-E 7
tion center one day when I was introduced to the health-8 !
physics type from NRR.
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9 Q
Do you recall what day that was?
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A I'm not sure whether that was late Friday a f ternoon f
11 l or Saturday.
It might have been late Friday evening or even
't 12 0 Saturday.
I don't know.
13 lI Q
So it was within a day?
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A Yes.
And it was my understanding that they had a 14 1
15 h much -- they were actually directly involved with helping the 16 n licensee implement the program, advising them and assessing e
d 17 h conditions as well.
They spent most of their time in the i
18 i Unit II control room.
There were two individuals that I am 6
19 l speaking of and they were on 24-hour shifts, the two of them.
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Q Were any IE, HP people involved in the review of 21 !
the procedures that were 'being developed by the licensee and l
22j compared by the NRC team?
23 A
There was several days af ter the accident that I&E 24 i got involved in reviewing and procedures.
In fact, it was 0
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Q Was that in conjunction with the NRR people's review 3
of the procedures?
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A Yes, and it was kind of a situation where we kind of 5
moved our way into it.
It wasn't requested you might say.
6 Q
You weren't on the current list?
7 A
Yes, that's right.
We had to initiate our own doing n I
8 there to get involved in that.
1 9
Q Do.you know whether or not the people from the NRR l
10 who were reviewing the procedures had health-physics back-y grounds?
12 l A
The only two individuals that I knew that, as 1 13 know them now that were en site that had health-physics back-O 1
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ground were the two health physicists that were working 15 directly with the licensee and the control room.
16 Q
Did you ever know that a Mr. Klingler came to:the 37 site with the Vollmer team.when they arrived on Thursday?
18 Were you aware of :a-Voll'mer team arriving.on' the site on 19 Thursday?
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Not'at th btimd.I have since heard.that Mr.
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'Q-Do you know a Mr. Klingler, Mr. Jerry Klingler from 23 Headquarters?
24 A
No,>1 don't.
4 25 Q'
Are you aware now that there was a Mr.. Jerry Klingler l
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No, I do not.
We in all I can say that we did not 3l cven' know that NRR was there on Thursday.
The in-plant health t
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physics team, emergency response team we had no indication of 5l what support groups were at the observation center, whether i
6 it be health-physics or NRR.
I 7l Q
How was information being coordinated by IE at the 8
. site on Friday to inform the IE people in general what was i
9 going on?
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A Well, until the IE management team arrived on I
ji Friday we got all or most of our directions over the telephone i
12 between the regional office and the site.
13 Q
After the IE team arrived on Friday, they arrived 14 late Friday afternoon, did that situation change?
15 A
If I recall we then -- we had telephone communica-16,
tions set up between the IE trailers and the site, the island-l 17l plus we had some radios arrived I think at that time.
I'm k
18l not sure what the day _was.
But most of our~ communications was i
19 1 think by our lead health physicist who would go across the 20l'
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Q Did you eve 51get any; instructions from the IE icad
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22 health physicist or from the IE management on the site as to 23 what you should be doing as a health physics team ~.on Friday 24 and' Saturday and Sunday?
25 A
Yes, we were briefed..
By the'way our organization-m,c
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was set up there was a -- there were three shifts.
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was a section leader.
And he briefed each shift.
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.those people and debrief with'them as they changed shifts.
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Q-Do you recall who the section leader was that you 6
worked with?
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A That was Mr. Fishnr from Region III.
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Mr. Sicilia, do you have any 9
questions that you would like to ask bk. Neely?
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11 Q
Yes, Don, I have just a couple points that I would 12 like to have clarified.
1 Back on Wednesday prior to leaving Region I~you were 13 1
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, told to form an emergency team to go to the site.
Who told 14 :
15 you to form the emergency team?
16 A
The way that came about, I was setting in'Mr.
17 Crocker's office who was the acting chief of tF, radiation la support section.
Mr. Smith came to his doorway arid instructed y
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19 Mr. Crocker to assemble an emergency team._
20 Q
Then what happened?
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And at that -- then.1 got my ibst' ructions from Mr.
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'with Mr. Smith I was instructed to take the individuals that X
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Did you. feel at that particular time when you were l
4 working you were under the direction of George Smith or Mr.
5 Crocker?
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A I at.that time, both.
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the chain.
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vou went over to Unit II.
Under whose direction 10 or why did you go to Unit II?
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That was based on discussions with the regional 12 office after we had reported in.
And we determined that i
13 someone had to go to the Unit II Control Room tm establish O
14 conditions over there.
And it was ind.icated I should go over 15 instead of the other individuals on the team.
16 Q
Can you recall specifically Sho indicated that you 17
'should go over?
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So the direction caine by way of-Mr.,Yuhas?
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That is right.
a 23 MR. SICILIA:
I have'no other questions, George.
24 MR. RIVENBARK:- Mr. Neely, I have no further ques-25 tions for you.
Do you have any other items' that.you believe MONrCM STEN 064 A PMtC S E Rv*CE.
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Tile WITNESS:
Just to say that just the dates and 4
times are -- it's been so long and I am, you know, they could 5l not be accurate, you know.
They are approximate because it's 1
6 been at least six months since this has all gone by.
But if I
7 l, there is any clarification, feel free to reestablish those
'l l dates and times.
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MR. RIVENBARK:
You will be given an opportunity to 10 f look at the transcript when it is produced and make any i
I 11 changes that you deem necessary.
12 In conclusion today let me say that this is an on-13 going investigation.
Although I have completed the questions la I have for you today we may need to bring you back for further 15 depositions.
We will, however, make every effort to avoid 16 havin'g to do so.
I 17 I will now recess this deposition rather than 18 terminate it.
I thank you for your candidness and your time 19 here today with us.
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2l 1, Roxanne Weaver, the officer before whom the
~s 3 i deposition of DONALD R. NEELY was taken, do hereby certify
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4 that DONALD R. NEELY, the witness whose testimony appears in xs j
5! the foregoing deposition, was duly sworn on October 12, 1979, 6
and that the transcribed deposition of said witness is a true 7 ( record of the testimony given by him; that the proceedings are
{hererecordedfullyandaccurately; that I am neither attorney 8
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nor counsel for, nor related to any of the parties to the 10 action in which this deposition was taken, and further that I
!i j am not a relative of any attorney or counsel employed by the i
11 lI 12 0 parties hereto, or financially interested in this action.
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MONICK STEN 0 GRAPHIC SERVICE 18 h My Commission expires
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