ML19276H565
| ML19276H565 | |
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| Issue date: | 11/08/1979 |
| From: | NRC COMMISSION (OCM) |
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| REF-10CFR9.7 NUDOCS 7911290422 | |
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CLOSED MEETDIG (Exemption 9)
D: scssicn of hcposed Testimeny en the Kereny Repcr:
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%,.....f COMMISSION DETERMINATION PZGARDING PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER THE GOVERNMENT IN THE St2i3 HINE ACT OF:
Transcript of Discussion of Proposed Testimony on the Kemeny Recort, Novem er 2, 1979 Pursuant to 10 CFR 9.103(c), the Cc= mission has determined that the subject transcr et should be released to the oublic.
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CLOSED MEETING (Exemption 9) 5 Discussion of Proposed TestinCnv cn the Keneny Repcrt 6
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The Commission met, pursuant to notice, at 3:30 p.m.
10 BEFORE:
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CHAIRMAN HENDRIE:
Why don' t we come to croer.
2 The first thing, what we propose to have tais af ternoon 3
is a discussion o f proposeo testimony concerning a report c/
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fle have a f at s:ac k of ma terisi f ron the staf f..vhicn we eskea :nsm :o try to pull togetner f rom the cresi:e7tial
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- ommission sport as fas: as 90s31019.
3 ine first thing I neso to do is to ask you to join le ir i
voting to.010 tais me: ting on less than one dee?'s noti;3.
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!2 CHAIRMAN HENORIE:
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13 20 'IM ISS IOJER 3RAlp0RC : Ave.
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The se:cnd :ning I have to ast to you to do is to vote to Olose tne mee ting under Exe7ption 9 10 of the Exemotion Act, Frustration of Agency Intent.
14 I guess I will not he re us e the wo rds " jo i n m e, out will IS esk vou to vota to close.
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21 CHAIRMAN HENDRIE:
We have get to get forwaro wi:r 22 it.
I will vote to close, 000.
23 Ot ay, so that's aone.
Now we ce, get on wi:P tne 24 cro:eecings.
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now woul: you recommend tnat se assault it?
2 As k Howard to sunmarize?
3 Ca 'JMI55 ION ER AMEAR:lEt Safore we cegin, could I 2
exer:ise a prerogative simila r to :ongression al co'mi ttes and make an opening statement ?
CHAIRMA:I JE:lCRIE lake an openin; statement.
.ie'11 coserve tne five-minute rule.
3 COT 4IS5IONER AMEARNE Thank you.
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,sf 12 the enemy ano me is us.
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la I recognize the feeling -- tnere are many feelings taa:
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15 are feelings :na: :ney rea:ned conclusions anc : hen li intervieweo us acou; what conclusions :ney alreacy eacne ;
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20 e f ee ling tnat tney :cok some :c mmen t s ou t o f conte x,
21 Certainly from cecosition'; a feeling they cian't un ers:en:
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a f eeling tney took some re c o mm e nc a t io n s from 23 otner repcres, su:h as tne eport put out in July of 22 I llin oi s a feeling :nat, a3 Pig ford co omen t ec, :nev were 25 unwilling to recogni:9 the steos the: na : ceen a:en an; D p n D,
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4 A feeling tnat tney only criticizeo :he s'4I response of 5
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ge t no prais e, cu t get widespread puoli: c ri tici sm, 13 Dasically to os pilloried.
Is The smell of ter is in tae air eno you have to wa:ch au:
23 f or oeople carrying oags of f eathers.
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Il servi 3 Oe:30sa ve expecteo money Or praise.
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- = do it oecause we 091.37e it's the ces; way o 3;en; 14 our lives.
Anc at some point, we must ce sa isfied insi;e la curselves tnat we are doing what's.-ight.
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If it's yes, we shoulJ re ally 09 acie to 2-axplain that.
I f no t, we snould reconsider and ei:ner 20 it 23 or na ve a va ry good reason why not.
24 I celiev3 to do tnis we must announce taa; tners ar=
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4 I believa the nation is f acing an enargy shortage.
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to come to ne Commi ssion wi;n a se : of options on :nat.
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I missed your 15 o pening commen ts, t can' understanc f ully wne;ner you 16 expect as to simply i ssue a cocumen, or scme particular --
17 C0 04I d5 I:'.'iER AHE ARN E :
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