ML19220A900
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| Site: | Crane  |
| Issue date: | 03/29/1977 |
| From: | Molloy K DAUPHIN COUNTY, PA |
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Docket Ib. 50-320
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FEEPARED ESTECT? OF KE7I'i J. IDII.OY NO \\Wd Q.
Please state your r~m, address and current occ=ation.
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!tf rc:n is Kevin J. Ibiloy.
I reside at Miller Road in the tcw. ship of Irndenderry, Pennsylvmia.
I an currently ecolocyed as Directcr of Dauphin Cctney Civil Defense.
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- 12. Ibiloy, muld ycu describe briefly the cornef civil defense organizaticnal st:tcere and its ccreectic1 with other civil defense organizaticas in Pennsylv mia.
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'Ihe civil defense organizatica in Pe=sylvania cperates at three principal levels. 'Ihere is the State Ccuncil of Civil De case ad its staff, headquar ered here in Ha_%btzg. 19. WilP men in his testi-neny describes in ucre detail their struct=e and role.
I; ext, each ccenty in Pe=sylvrda has a countf civil defense organizatica with a directer and sta#f such as curs in Dair:hin Counef.
Finally, each city, borough, tcsn and tcs.nship within the Cu u;u.malth has civil defense organi-ntic.s. 'Ihese ve refer to as local civil defense organizaticus.
Both the counef and local civil defense structures are patterned after the state organizaticn with a governing body sir:ilar to that of the 71 Id73
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State Council and staffs.
In the counties, the councils are fc ed by the Board of County remissicners and at the local levels, by City, Borough and Tom Councils and by Boards of 7x. ship remissicners and Supervisors.
'he staffs of county and local. civil defense organ-inaticas, too, are structurtd like that of the State council's Staff, with a directer and deputies and specialized sub-groups respr.sible for orgcnizatica and cocrdination with other agencies and g:ruos such as fire and rescue groups, medical and heald care organizaticas and entities, and transportaticnal rescurces and facilities.
Coordinatica of county organizaticns with the state level en de one hand and local civil defense groups en de other hand is constant.
We operate generally under stat is tmd tb "c'uin concept" whereby local prob 1 cts or e gencies are first handled at de local lew 1 wid the county le w l being kept advised. As necessary, local organizaticns not caly advise the county but call upon then for support and assistance.
At the county level a s4-41n pattern is follcwed, keeping the state staff inforced, but bcging to bear county rescurces and coordinating assistance acrng the local civil defe6.se organizaticns.
In the sa::e way, counties can seek assistance frca the state's resources in these situaticas Wich dictate the need. The " chain" syste:: is, howver, not a cue-my street.
Sane probic:s are first kncun to the state or recognized % dintely as being n despread ccncern.
In these cases, inforraticn and recccrendations can just as easily ficw dcm the chain imolving a nu ber of county and local crganiraticnal efforts.
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Would you please describe in ucre detail your particular organizatica in Dauphin Ccunty?
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Dauphin County currently is structured and cperates under the State
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Disaster Operaticns and Assistance Plan of Nova:ber,1973, which wns adopted for use in Dauphin County 'oy resc'.aticn of the Dmphin County Ccc1:n.ssicners in 1974. We have been wrking for scce Hm en the preparaticn of cur own plan for Dauphin County and sten it is ccc:pleted it will likely be de plm used.
In the mmtime, we shall ccndnue to use the guidance provided by the State's pim, and amendames and updates of it, to govern our organizatico.
Tne Dauphin Ccunty Cannissioners serve as cur county civil defense council md therefore are respcnsible for direction ~-i centrol of all county disaster cperaticns and everall coordinatica of local disaste*
operaticas carried out within de county.
Le council's respcnsibilities are discharged through its s-'##, of st in I am de director.
Under me in 'huphia Ccaty are an assistmt irector and indivWnis respcnsible for the varicus functicas thich our organizatica perfo s.
Dauphin County Civil Defense has a full-time sixteen eher and part-tire five w her staff. Our headquarters is in the Dauphin County Courthcuse.
Dauphin Courf's civil defense headquarters serves routir.ely as the hub of ca2rgency carnicaricas and direction in Dauchin Ccunty, with the exceptica of de City of Harrisburg, and to scre extent de Bercughs of Middletc%n and Hershey, stich also raintain carnicaticn centers. Fbr this purpose, we are manned 24 hcurs per day to receive fire, police and other energency calls and requests for informaticn and assistance.
In 1976, we received 30,826 police calls, 2,504 fire
' calls, and 4,734 a-Joulance calls.
During 1976, m also used the Cccnuraalth law caforccmme assistance netwrk cceputer 155,000 tirns and lccged 174,232 incccting and cutgoing telephone calls.
Our cardcaticas capabilities are extensive, and de police, m-tL 7.q
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fire, and n%ilmce systers have been installed within the past three years.
In nMitica to gear covering four fire frepcies (33.80, 33.84, 33.86 and 33.90 de) ad six police frequencies (460.025, 460.050, 460.075, 460.100 che, ed tm ccnfidential frequencies), we have CAP, citizens band, aanteur radio (2 neter bmd), cobile telepirne, bio-m2 dical telerec / and civil de"ense teler/pe capabilities.
Incidentally, the 33.90 de frequency is the szn used by the Middleccan and Herchey em,nicaticas centers, and is cocron as well with 12ncaster and York counties *1ch gives us constant cocrdinate capabilities with these groups.
In additica, we have nineteen ineczning telephcne lines, sece of e.ich are for general public use and others of stich are reserved for specific purpcses, such as direct lines with soccial care facilities m d specific localities. Powr for all our equipernt is tvnHnhle both frca nor=al md energency sources.
In tires of disaster cperaticas of varicus types, cur headquarters facilities serve as cur 'hrgency Operatienc Center," (ECC).
At these times, in order to exercise proper and effective cent ol and cocrdina-tion, cur cpaces are utilized by representatives of agencies such as the Fed Cross, Coast Ceard, CAP or National Ccard, who act in cencert with us to cope with any -gency.
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Eat type of w2rning system do you ecploy?
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We use a warning systen stich gives us the capability of activating sirens by mr.s of a tone alert systen.
Fcr erm e, landcadc=rf fire house has a sen11 cenitor attached to its siren.
'Ihis acnitor is tuned to a speci#ic tene; and sten we push a butt = here in Harrisburg, the tcne sounds in the Icndenderry fire house, activatiq, the siren.
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Mr. Molloy, are you friliar with the Ihree Mile Island Nuclear Statica, Unit 2, located in Dauphin County?
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Yes, to the extent at least that I know its locatica -- I live within abcut four c:iles of tb site -- and kncr.e that its pcpose is to generate electricity using nuclear pom r.
I should say, ho w ver, that I a:n not a nuclear engineer er scientist cd haie no detailed wrking knowledge of de facility itself.
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Are you fc::iliar with the tems "radicactivity" and "rndinticn"?
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Again, caly generally, he rn,,rtronalth of Pennsylvm2.a has provided our organizatica w4.th infor=aticn on radiaticn and radiocctive sub-stances and provided us with general guidelines for cur use in do, ling with caergencies stich ircolve radicactive enter nis.
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Mr. Molloy, are you f 414n with Ccntenticn 8 stich is at issue in this proceeding?
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Yes, I he/e been provided wid a ecpy of de contention cd understad that our ability to irplement protective actica unasures, including evacuatica if necessary, in de event of an accicent at tree Mile Island with consequences to off-site areas, is questioned.
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Irt ce ask initially, in view of your statement that you have only a
" general kncwledge" of de nuclear plant at tiree Mile Is1ri af~
radioactive cat _ rials, does de fact dat you have linliced knc
_ge in these areas ccncern ycu as to your abilities to ccpe with a probica at tree Mile Island which results in radiological ccnsequences off-site?
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No, and for tso principal reascns.
First, there are eps i-mdi,tely available to us who are capable of providing us with whatever technical inforaticn w need. Le Eureau of Padiological Fon1th perscnnel and perscnnel freni Hiree Mile Isicnd w uld be availa' ale to us at the EOC or by telephcne or radio should w require detailed inforatica of this type. Bbre irportantly, howver, let un assure ycu that cur actions and abilities to take actica in the event of a raaiological mergcncy e
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or m event innipeg tcxic chmicals cr floods are not cependmt upon the need for a derniled kncraledge of the substance against which wu need to protect perscas who could be affected. What we need to Pnca is generally the nature of $c problem, secondly stat seg:: cat of the public will be or could be affected, and stat actica en ottr part is recerry-ided.
With this inferatica, our organizational structure and ccrr nicaticns capabilities allow us to respcnd very quickly, calling upcn and coordinating whatever groups or agencies de situatica dictates.
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Mr. & lloy, for illustrative purposes, let ce describe an event postulated to occur at 'Ihree Mile Island, thit 2, which resn'.ts in releases of radioactivity which are ccried off-site by the wbd, and ask you to ccurent on your abilities to cope with such a problen.
For these pur-poses, assum:
(1) that the release from Three Mile Island is bcrne by de wind nord, in the direction of l'iddletown; (2) that the =agnitude of the radicactive caterials released is such dat it is recormded that evacuaticn be dcne of all perscns in de area described by dat segment of a five-cile circle around 'Ihree Mile Island with lines drawn frczn the center of the circle at the Island to its circ =ference,11.25 degrees en eider side of due north; (3) dat you have less den cne hour to cceplete evaucarica cf those perscns located closest to the Islmd, less than three hours to cceplete evacuatim of those persons located cn the edge of the ccre densely pcpulated areas of Middletown and Poyalten, less thm five hours to c'ccplete evacuaticn out to de center of Middletown, and a couple ccre hcurs to cccplete evacuaticn cut to five miles, beycnd wilich there is no need fer evacuation; and (4) that the recccrr.nded evacuaticn routing should be perpendicular to the directicn of the radioactive pit =n, i.e., east or west. 7j <3
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I start by observing that because of the directicn assmed tnis hypo-A.
thetical see:s to un to prescnt us wi6 de cost severe probica, in te=s of the ability to evacuate, of any problem that could be posed.
Releases in virtually any other directicn would involve only a fracticn of the people involved in $is case.
He area of i:: pact here would include 1mdadmy Tcwnship (with a population of about 4,000), Poyalton Borough (with about 1,100 residents), Middletown Borou:;h (e.ose popula-tica is approxi ntely 2 0,000), and porticns of Irwr Swrara, Highspire and Derry Tcunships.
In all, we are talking about an evacuaticn of as runy as 18,000 persens from six different localities.
An accident of this ungnitude would involve the local, county and state civil defense organizaticas.
'H.e headcuartern of de State, Dauphin Ccunty (and p'abably Lancaster and Ycrk comties) as well as localities irceolved, stuld irrediately be converted in EDC's frce which to direct and coordinate our activities.
After the initial call frtn the site to the State civil defense duty officer, the State duty officer to Bai and to us, and BEH's call back to the site, cern-nica-tions would be established linking our EOC with that of the state and those in the localities, as well as the Eree Mile Island site.
L e following would occur.
Le three dispatchers (my tw assistants and myself) wuld sinultanecusly begin a series of notdicaricns. Le siren unmirs; system would be activated in Imdenderry Tcwdip, Middle-town, Icwr Swatara and Highspire, so that volmteers would be called to their respective fire and ambulance staticas.
We would notify the Lancaster County Civil Defense Director, so that he could take appro-priate actica; and we would notify the ccntrol tcwr of Harrisburg Intematicnal Airport, so that air traffic centrol m,wes could be p4
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_O instituted. We w uld maintain an cpen line with the State Police and use their trailer-type ccrmnicaticns ccater as a cerrnnd post in the Vine Street extended area of Imdenderry Tomship.
We m uld also be in touch with the chiefs at all local fire stations and all local chiefs of police. They muld set up their cm pims to go to affected areas and tell people to evacuate. We muld notify the news redia, our Fed Cross perscnnel, and local civil defense officials in the areas to st.ich pecple wuld be roved. We m uld also noti y cur transportation officer, sto has access.c buses for transpcrting evacuees. We m uld, of course, maintain ccatact with de Statt Civil Defense Council.
She public wuld be advised in several ways.
In this area there are at least six radio staHms Cooth AM and Pd are ecvered) md three televisica staticns.
These redia can be used either by our requesting their acmcers to broadcast alerts and infor aticn or by councement directly "rce de state civil defense headwers st.ich has de capa-bility to be patched into the news media for public announcmts of this type.
In additica, local police and fire police muld use bull horns to make counceconts in deir respective ccm:nities.
- Finally, efforts at door-to-door notificatica muld be undertaken, and particular attenticn w uld be given to de needs of specialized facilities md individuals regemg perscnaliced treat =mc sucn as the handicarped.
As m exs=ple of special attentica, all schools have evacuaticn pims ad transportatica available to imple.t those plans; special procedures have been developed and provided to school acminisrrators which describe their respcasibility to evacuate and continue to attend to the needs of the stMents.
Our public anncuacements muld provide infcn=aticn not caly cn the need to evacuate but also de principal routes to be utiliced and n-
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Le principal mode of evacuaticn is by private vehicle.
State police (who have a nobile cm-tications center for use in situations such as this) cnd local police have responsibility for traffic control.
Additicnally, civil defense has cc= piled detailed infc=ntica en transpora icn equi;racnt such as public and private 'cuscs, cabs, vans and heliccpcers which could be called upcn as necessa f to provide sucplmtal nodes of transporta icn. As acationed erlier, in a situaticn of this type the civil defense headquarters serve as EOC's and representatives of ntrercus agencies report to de ECC's to cocrdinate their agencies' roles in de overall respcnse.
In this case, cne such agency muld be the Red Cross who sculd take de lead in cobC 4-ing cass care facilities.
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Pr. Itiloy, de actual i=pimtation of ycur plans appears to rely cn both the willingness and readiness of *ers of the general public to respcnd.
Could ycu ccrrent en this aspect of a potential evacuatien.
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thfortunately for the perscas involved, but fortunately for cur purposes, residents of cany pa s of Pennsylvania and in particular dose here in Dauphin County located alcng de Susquehanna are not un#r414=- with evacuaticn.
Du-ing pericds of flooding, nuny pecple have been evacuated in this same area. Eeir willingness to cooperate in a real crergency is re=arkable.
2 cy assist each o der, follcw our instructicas and, our experience has been, evacuate in an orderly fashica.
I should point out that all we can usually cb is ensure that people get the werd cn the need for, and reccrrn'.daticns concurdng the cedod of, evacuation.
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bems, if they choose to stay regardless of our recccumdaticns. We have had such experiences in the past ed I would asst =n such cases wutld present themselves in the accidcat situatica we are dealing with here.
For the most part, hcwever, people teact verf well and cur e:cerience with those sto do net has been 1N ted to iscla.2d occ= rences.
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On the basis of yor understanding ad kncwledge cf both the andcrities' abilities and Se public's reactica, wculd ycu please assess the cara-bility to evacuate the pecple involved in oc asstnnd case against de tim constraints pcstulated?
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It is cf opinicn that we could effect and cccplete an evec.caticn of this type within the periods allotted us.
I base cf cpirden en c/ workdng knowledge of the civil defense crgcnicatices at all levels, ed cf experience with de othe:: crgmicaricas, audorities ed agencies stich would be involved here. My experience wi d these grow s includes actual evacuaticns and I hree coserved firsthand the capabilities of the audorities as well as de public's respcnse.
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War ass =mces do ycu have for ycur ccnfidence dat such m evacuatica could be successfully carried cut?
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First of all and probably cost itpcrat, we have a assured ccct ::ica-tiens capability. As I described earlier, su have a variety of ccccmicatiens gear and cm pass infc=ation, reccccrndaticns and crders to all ccace=ed in c:inutes.
Our ability to coordinate de varicus rescurces that c:ight be brought to bear is beme cut in drills which we ccnduct cnd in cur daily f=cticns. We are a m gcncy-criented organicaticn. Wat is an ecurgency to cost of the general public is rcutine to us. Our daily business is respcnse
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Dauphin Cctnty in de past several years has suffered frce a varierf of prcblems, ranging frca de 1972 flecds ccsed by E_ _;cce Ap.es to ecmrities being left widcut water as a result of de e.u._wly severe wea$er that we encetntered this year. We also have dealt with a plane crash, a passenger bus accident and a train derail nnt.
In each case, I feel that the problem was handled in a safe, efficient m =er by energency persc=el.
In te=s of area affected, the 1972 ficed was the worst, with scm 50 cf the County's cccurleies hit by the flocding waters of the Susquehama River and varicus c6er creeks and st ears.
I was not in charge of Civil Defense at the H,'; but fran *.at infer-maticn I have availchle, over 10,C00 residents were affected by $is storm.
In umrf cases, this mant eva=aticn.
'Ihere were shelters set up in 18 cccrrities in Dauphin County at that $n.
Sinc.e 1972, we have opened a lesser ntnter of shelters during different cisasters, but we have improved cur perforrece in terms of cccrunicaticr.s with these facilities, the empcwer to cperate the: and cur ability to get then cpened quickly. Al$cugh we are talking abcut a large greco of pecple, I am ccafident $at the ernrgency perscrr.el in Dauphin Ccenty end the citizens demselves can h a dle cny situatica. An extrennly i portat point to ru uer is that we in Dauphin Cc=ty, including civil defense, fire, arbulance or police, are well seare of de large c:rtnt of resources available anu uculd not hesitate to use dese resccces d.en c4 oco 6A
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With respect to training and drills, haw you participated in drills in ccnnection with 'Ihree Mile Island?
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Yes, in several ways.
First, Dauphin Ccuary Civil Defense has been involved each year in drills at the site which include testing ccenni-cations between the site and State Civil Defense, EEH and ccmty civil defense orgriinaticns. Our headcuarters is contacted at these tires in order to. test cur ccrm licaricns.
Seccad, I perscnally bs/e accepted Metrcpoliten Ediscn Carpany's invitatica ca two occasicns to cbserm these drills at the site itself.
Finally, in additica to cy duties as Director cr Dauphin Ccunty Civil Defense, I serve as a vol= teer fia an in icndenderry Tcmship.
In this capacity, I have becom fH W-with the workings of de local fire ccc=anies and their training programs (and in particular have pa ticipated in actual ecergencies and drills associated with 'Ihree Mile Islmd.)
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Mr. &lloy, it is suggested dat caly drough live tests involving the public can it be shcun that ycur evacuatica plans are adequate. Would you please cccrent en this suggesticn.
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I am ware of this suggesticn and have heard it before.
For sew ral reascns, I do not support the use of live tests which include evacuatica of the public. First of all, the authcrities and their equipcrnt at all levels, state, cctnty and local, are trained and actually drilled both by sinnlated erurgencies and by actual crergencies.
To this extent live tests are ccnducted.
I:riolving the public, hcaver, is a different matter. Our experience tells us that the public reacts very well in ece gency cad disaster situaticns.
I think it is wrcag to underesHn,te the ptiolic's abilities and willingness to respend in actual c crgency c-
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I just dcn't believe that cost pecple would participate. People don't like to have deir rcutines disrupted tnless a real need exists and to som extent I suspect they wculd be wrried about traffic problems md even possible looting.
Of cct=se, scce pecple muld respcnd, but it is cf cpinica that the vast enjcrity wedd not. 'Ihe expendit=e of rescurces necessary to set up such a drill would for the rest part be susad.
As to those wt.o would participate, hcwever, I have another ccncern.
Obvicusly, emrgencies related to 'Ihree d'ile Islad, cr other tyI of emrgencies, have a way of occ=3g quite inlike drills. We at civil defense and the oder crergency respcnse orgcnizaticns t=derstmd this and provide in cur plcs and precedmes for.;ufficient flexibility to react to each situatica in the arpropriate way.
I have som ccncern, hwever, that if we were to ccncuct a crill, say of da efpe asstnnd here, cnd people did respcnd, if and sten we had an actual gerf in which the prcper respense called for evcucaticn in a different directica, fer exacole, we could have exace_cated the pr ble=s associated with centrolled crderly ecw_uut of pecple by having trained them to resocad differently.
In short, I do not favor live tests of evacuaticn involving the p61ic ~oecause I do not see their need, I expect that the results would be umwless, and I cm ccncemed that the results could prove counterproductive.
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The following is a record of education and employmenu:
EDUCATION Graduated from St. Michael's High School in Northampton, Mass. in 1953 Attended Westfield State Teachers College in Westfield, Mass. for 1 year Graduated from Radio Engineering Institute in Sarasota, Florida in 1967 with a 1st class Radio Engineers License Completed the first 2 phases of a 4 phase program offered by the Defense Civil Preparedness Agency Staff College in Battle Creek, Michigan Comnleted 3 home study correspondence courses offered by the staff college Completed 3 state sponsored seminars dealing with many subjects including business magagement, organizational structure, and specific emergency pre-paredness program areas Attended a week long seminar in January of 1975 sponsored by DCPA and State Radiological Health officials on." Emergency Planning for Fixed Nuclear Fa-cilities."
Completed several courses offered by Exter.sion Course Institute of the Air Force University Served in the US Army for 3 years active duty including tours in Germany, Thailand, and several states EMPLOYMENT RECORD WDEW Radio, Westfield, l' ass., 1967-1968 (Staff Announcer)
WFEC Radio,:iarrisburg, PA, 1968-1974 (News Director)
Civil Defense /Communica' ions Director Dauphin County, Harrisburg, PA, 1974 to present rjpT63