ML073200744
| ML073200744 | |
| Person / Time | |
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| Site: | Callaway  |
| Issue date: | 11/02/2006 |
| From: | NRC/OI |
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| 4-2006-035, FOIA/PA-2007-0335, NRC-1313 | |
| Download: ML073200744 (25) | |
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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
Title:
Interview of David Hollabaugh Docket Number: 4-2006-035 Location:
Fulton, Missouri Date: Thursday, November 2, 2006 Work Order No.: NRC-1 313 Pages 1-24 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.
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1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 3
4 OFFICE OF INVESTIGATIONS 5 INTERVIEW 6 x------------------------------X 7 INTERVIEW OF 8 DAVID HOLLABAUGH CASE NO. 04-2006-35 9 (CLOSED) 10 x------------------------------x 11 Thursday, November 2, 2006 12 Callaway Nuclear Plant 13 Fulton, Missouri 14 15 The above-entitled interview was conducted at 9:00 A.M.
16 BEFORE:
17 Special Agent, STEVE ROMERO 18 FOR THE CALLAWAY NUCLEAR PLANT:
19 PILLSBURY, WINTHROP, SHAW, PITTMAN, LLP 20 2300 N. Street, NW 21 Washington, DC 20037 22 202-663-8000 23 By: Mr. J. Patrick Hickey 24 25 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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2 1 MR. ROMERO: For the record, this is an 2 interview of Mr. David, middle initial S., last name 3 Hollabaugh, who is employed by Callaway Nuclear Plant.
4 The date is November 2nd, 2006, and the time is 5 approximately 9:04 a.m. Mr. Hollabaugh, could you 6 please state and spell your full name for the record?
7 MR. HOLLABAUGH: First name David, 8 middle initial S, last name spelled H-o-l-l-a -- "b" as 9 in "boy" -- a-u-g-h.
10 MR. ROMERO: What is your current job 11 title?
12 MR. HOLLABAUGH: Superintendent Employee 13 Concerns.
14 MR. ROMERO: Present at this interview 15 are Special Agent Steve Romero from the Nuclear 16 Regulatory Commission's Office of Investigations, 17 Region 4, Arlington, Texas. Also present is 18 Mr. Hollabaugh, who is being interviewed; Mr. Patrick 19 Hickey, who is representing Mr. Hollabaugh; and 20 Ms. Lisa Banks is the court reporter. This interview 21 is being tape recorded and will be transcribed by 22 Ms. Banks and/or Neal Gross and Associates.
23 The purpose of this interview is to 24 ascertain facts concerning an allegation regarding a
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3 1 for raising safety concerns.
2 Mr. Hollabaugh, if you can please stand 3 and raise your right hand.
4 (Witness sworn.)
5 MR. ROMERO: Does your employer require 6 you to have an attorney present when you speak with the 7 NRC?
8 MR. HOLLABAUGH: They do not. They 9 offer the option.
10 MR. ROMERO: Okay. And is Mr. Hickey 11 acting as your personal representative today?
12 MR. HOLLABAUGH: He is.
13 MR. ROMERO: Okay. And again, did the 14 company select him or did you select him?
15 MR. HOLLABAUGH: The company -- I would 16 say that the company selected him, and I agreed to that 17 selection.
18 MR. ROMERO: Sir, let me rephrase that, 19 sir. Would it be more that the company offered him and 20 you agreed to have him here today?
21 MR. HOLLABAUGH: That's an accurate 22 statement.
23 MR. ROMERO: As opposed to they 24 selected -- made you have him. Right?
25 MR. HOLLABAUGH: That's correct.
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4 1 MR. ROMERO: Okay. These questions are 2 for Mr. Hickey. Mr. Hickey, who is your employer?
3 MR. HICKEY: I'm with the firm 4 Pillsbury, Winthrop, Shaw, Pittman in Washington D.C.
5 I represent Mr. Hollabaugh here today, and I also 6 represent AmerenUE and other witnesses in this 7 investigation.
8 MR. ROMERO: Okay. Do you believe a 9 conflict or -- of interest may arise during the course 10 of this interview?
11 MR. HICKEY: I do not, but if that were 12 to occur I would address it with Mr. Hollabaugh, and we 13 would resolve it appropriately.
14 MR. ROMERO: Okay. Thank you.
15 Mr. Hollabaugh, do you understand that Mr. Hickey 16 represents other parties associated with individuals 17 here at Callaway that are involved with this 18 investigation?
19 MR. HOLLABAUGH: I do.
20 MR. ROMERO: And with that 21 understanding, do you still want Mr. Hickey as your 22 representative here today?
23 MR. HOLLABAUGH: I do.
r 24 MR. ROMERO: All right. Thank you, sir.
25 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. ROMERO:
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5 1 Q. Sir, for the record, can you please tell 2 us what your educational background is?
3 A. I've got a bachelors degree in 4 electrical engineering from the University of 5 Missouri-Columbia; a masters degree in nuclear 6 engineering from the University of Missouri-Columbia.
7 Q. Okay. For the record, sir, when did you 8 obtain those degrees, sir?
9 A. b( was the bachelors degree, 1978 was 10 the masters in nuclear.
11 Q. Okay. And you've also received training 12 here at Callaway?
13 A. Yes. I have.
14 Q. Pertaining to the jobs you've had here 15 at Callaway?
16 A. Yes. I have. For example, I'm a -- or 17 I once held a senior reactor operator's license on the 18 unit. I'm a registered professional engineer in the 19 State of Missouri, and I've also had training in the 20 Employee Concerns area.
21 Q. Okay. Sir, and your employment 22 background, sir?
23 A. When I finished my graduate degree in 24 1978, I went to work for what was Union Electric 25 Company at the time in St. Louis, which has NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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6 1 subsequently morphed into AmerenUE. So I've been with 2 the company for 28 years.
3 Q. And how long have you been in your last 4 position -- the current position you hold? What is 5 that again, your current position?
6 A. Superintendent Employee Concerns. I've 7 been in that position since -- effectively since March 8 of 2003. The title has changed since then, but I've 9 been in the position since March of '03.
10 Q. Okay. Mr. Hollabaugh, did you ever 11 receive an allegation from Mr. (b)(7C)iF egarding F I=
12 I(b)(7C)0 jho is employed here at Callaway, that 13 Mr. (b)(7C)c stated that -- was struggling to stay 14 alert or awake on his shift?
15 A. I did.
16 Q. Can you tell us when you received that 17 allegation?
18 A. Mr. (b)(7C)c pproached me on January 19 23rd of 2005, and, we agreed to meet on January 24th of 20 2005. So I received the allegation -- 2006. I'm 21 sorry. Correction. 2006. And we agreed to meet on 22 January 24th of 2006, which we did, and I received the 23 concern at that time.
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7 1 allegation?
2 A. He did.
3 Q. Okay. And did he tell you who he had 4 spoken with in management?
5 A. He said that he had had discussions with 6 1(b)(7C)c He had mentioned it t o(b)(7C)c And 7 I believe at that time he said he had discussed it with 8 l(b)(7C)c IId have to refer to my notes to be sure 9 about that.
10 Q. Do you have any of those with you, sir?
11 A. Not here present.
12 Q. Oh, okay. I was just asking.
13 A. But it's the -- I mean, it's information 14 that has already been provided to 01.
15 Q. All.right. Would this have been some of 16 the information?
17 A. Correct. For example, there should be 18 an intake form.
19 Q. For the record, I've given 20 Mr. Hollabaugh a copy of some investigative reports, 21 interviews and findings pertaining to an investigation 22 that was done on Mr. J(b)(7C)c correct?
23 A. That is correct.
24 Q. That was provided to the NRC.
25 A. That is correct.
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8 1 Q. Okay. And I'm not going to ask you real 2 specific ones where you have to look. But I just 3 wanted to know if this was the report that --
4 A. That is the -- this is -- well, this is 5 obviously the cover letter that I signed, and this is 6 the beginning of my Employee Concerns file and 7 information that was in the file at that time.
8 Q. Okay. Do you know, sir, based on 9 conversation with Mr. J(b)(7C)E [did he tell -- did 10 state how many times he had spoken withr(b)(7 C)C 11 about his -- the problem with Mr. (b)(7C)c staying 12 awake or being inattentive in the control room?
13 A. It was at least once. And again, I'd 14 have to refer to my notes.
15 Q. It was just one conversation?
16 A. At least one.
17 Q. At least one. At least once, or it 18 could've been two?
19 A. Maybe. Maybe two. Not an extraordinary 20 number.
21 Q. Okay. And did Mr. (b)(7C)c ever tell 22 you what his -- Mr. J(b)(7C)CJs reaction was to him?
23 A. He -- and again, I'd prefer to refer to 24 my notes, if that's acceptable.
25 Q. That's acceptable. That's acceptable.
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9 1 A. Because, I mean, basically what I wrote 2 here contemporaneously is going to be a lot better than 3 my memory. Okay. So here, you know, I mentioned that 4 back about nine months prior, you know, = had talked 5 to -(b)(7C)c i had talked to (b)(7C)c asking 6 him what he knew about ( 7C)C And then here, 7 about a month later, Mr. I(b)(7C)o [tated that he talked 8 to Mr. (b)(7C)c bout it. So that's at least two 9 occasions where they talked.
10 Q. So Mr. J(b)(7C)oýsays initially that 11 Mr. j(b)(7C)c6ad approached him?
12 A. Correct. And then, again, I mention 13 that Mr. l(b)(7C)c_*talked tokb)(7C)c about it during 14 Refuel 14. Equipment operators were -- and reactor 15 operators making comments to Mr. J(b)(7C)c 16 Q. Okay.
17 A. I guess thel(b)(7C)C *had talked to 18 both (b)(7C)c 19 Q. Let's go back to the initial -- I know 20 that Mr. (b)(7C)c ]is telling me that he had been given 21 the information by Mr. 1(b)(7C)c_initially. Correct?
22 A. Correct.
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10 1 information?
2 A. Well, I've got an interview sheet here 3 with Mr. (b)(7C)c as well. Mr.*(D ) stated that he 4 was aware of a possible lack of alertness or 5 inattentiveness issues; that theý(b)(7C)c I 6 (b) C-,*had come to him; that somel(b)(7C)c 7 had talked to th Lb iC' Mr. b 7C)c said he 8 believed what the)(b) M-was telling him. He didn't 9 personally talk to anyw at that time. He talked to 10 some operating supervisors. And that that first 11 occurred back in about June of 2005.
12 Q. And does it make any mention that he 13 initially brought it up to Mr. J(b)(7C)c 14 A. That was not mentioned. Because if it 15 had been mentioned, I would've written it in my notes.
16 Q. Yes, sir. Okay. And again, this is 17 simply what each individual is telling you, correct, 18 when you're interview them?
19 A. Correct. Correct. And, I mean, my 20 interviewing approach is to ask, you know, very 21 open-ended questions and see what, you know, people 22 will tell me and not, you know, go say, "Well, what did 23 1(b)(7C)c,-- you know, askl(b)(7C)c "What id 24 W)(7C ýtell you about-this?" Because I get more 25 and better information without tipping my hand by NEAL R. GROSS, COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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11 1 asking the questions in that fashion. So I did not, 2 you know, focus in on anything that Mr. (b)(7C)c *might 3 have told Mr. b)jC 4 Q. Okay.
5 MR. HICKEY: When you spoke to 6 Mr. J(b)(7C)O-- if I can just interject -- what did he 7 indicate he had told Mr. ,(b)(7C)°Iwhen Mr. -(b)(7c) firs IZ5 8 approached him and asked him about whether he'd 9 observed Mr. b)(ZC)eNjbeing inattentive?
10 THE WITNESS: Well, it's a question that 11 J(b)(7C)C said that asked him was, "What do you
,. 12 know about i(b)(7C)c So it was very open, you
- 13 know, broad question, and the response was, "Nothing."
14 There was no --
15 MR. ROMERO: Okay.
16 BY MR. ROMERO:
17 Q. And Mr.l( 74)--is that his name?* )
18 i 19 A. Correct.
20 Q. He's also a peer of Mr. (b)(7C)o He's
% I 21 a manager?
22 A. He's a -- was a(b)(7C)C He's 23 not --
24 Q. At the time. At that time.
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12 1 I'm not sure if he was functioning in that role. But 2 it was during a refuel and people get different, you 3 know, job assignments during a refuel. So I don't 4 believe that he was functioning as aL(b)(7C)c [at 5 that time, but he was in the ops -- he was inj_
6 (b)(7C)c _
7 Q. Did Mr. 1(b)(7C)cI provide that 8 information to Mr. 7or did -- about Mr. tb) )c 9 A. Mr. _(b)(7C)c said, "I talked to 10 L bout it during the outage." So --
11 Q. And he talked to him because he wanted 12 Mr. =I to do something about it or? What was -- how 13 was he -- what was the reason for him to mention it to 14 Mr 15 A. That -- it's not clear from what .Iwrote 16 here, and it would be, you know, a presumption on my 17 part to say that was the case.
18 Q. Okay. That's fine. And did he state 19 that he told Mr. E about Mr. (b)(7C)c 20 inattentiveness?
21 A. No. As a matter of fact, he said, "I 22 have not talked to Mr. about Mr. (b)(7C)C 23 Q. Okay. So Mr. (),(7 uldn't have known 24 based on what- Mr. J(b)(7C)c is telling you during this 25 investigation. Right?
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13 1 A. Correct.
2 Q. Would not have known anything about it 3 from Mr. (b)(7C)c I 4 A. Right.
5 Q. And when did this interview take place 6 with this information you obtained?
7 A. On January 24th.
8 Q. January 24th --
9 A. Of 2006.
10 Q. When you talked to Mr. I I 11 A. No. When I talked to Mr. C 12 Q. Okay. Mr. Itb)(7C c gave you that 13 information. Did you talk to Mr.
14 A. I did not, not until January 30th.
15 Q. Okay. And did Mr. -- what did 16 Mr. { I say? Did he say that he had received 17 information from Mr. l(b)(7C)c we W know that 18 Mr. lth)(7)c said he hadn't told him. Right?
19 A. Right.
20 Q. We already know that.
21 A. Correct.
22 Q. But I just want to see what 23 Mr. LI said.
24 A. No reference from Mr 25 Mr. ,(b)(7C)c at that time.
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14 1 Q. Okay. So what were your investigative 2 findings, sir, on -- when -- on this allegation, sir?
3 A. Well, I interviewed seven individuals in 4 addition 4I to Mr. ,(b)(7C)c the concerned individual.
5 Okay. So I had a total of eight people that I had 6 talked to, a mixture of management and bargaining unit 7 individuals. And the information I received was pretty 8 consistent in that there was an alertness or 9 attentiveness to duty issue. So I completed those 10 interviews within about a week -- well, within a week.
11 And so, a week from January 23rd, on
- 12 January 30th, I debriefed our site vice president with
- 13 what I had found, and basically identified what I felt 14 were three issues that management needed to address.
w 15 And basically, the underlying issue of the alertness on 16 the part of Mr.(b)(7C)c secondly, what did management 17 know -- you know, when did they know it? Were their 18 actions timely and appropriately?
19 And then, thirdly, it concerned me that, 20 you know, the number of people that I had spoken with 21 that, you know, either had observed similar behavior or 22 had hearsay of similar behavior and hadn't, you know, 23 bubbled it up so that, you know, the safety conscious 24 work environment issue struck me, and I felt that we 25 needed to probe that within operations.
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15 1 So those three things, in essence, were 2 my recommendation to, you know, to management versus 3 management's decision as to what they do with that 4 information or whether they accept my recommendation.
5 Q. And who were the seven people that you 6 interviewed, sir?
7 A. And that would be here. I talked to 8 (b)(7C)c 9
10 11 (b)(7C)c 12 13 14 15 16 1(b)(7C)c I met with him at his home.
17 Q. And what --
18 MR. HICKEY: Plus the management people 19 that you interviewed?
20 THE WITNESS: Right. That was -- yeah.
21 Maybe ask your question again.
22 MR. HICKEY: I thought the question was:
23 Who did you interview?
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16 1 week one prior to debriefing management. And at that 2 point, my management requested me, okay, go out, you 3 know, also interview (b)(7C)c Chr is.'
4 Younie and see what --- you know, what they know about 5 the situation. So I did that on January 30th.
6 7 Q. Okay. January 30th. And Mr. 1(b)(7C)c 8 stated that he was aware of it. Correct?
9 A. Mr. L(b)(7C)c stated -- my question was:
10 "What do you know about a possible lack of alertness or 11 inattentiveness to duty by b)(7C)c Mr. (b)(7C)c 12 said it exists. TheJ(b)(7C)c
. 13 1(b)(7C)c *came to me. The J(b)(7C)c 14 Sb)(7C)c I believed him. I didn't talk 15 to any EOs. I talked to a couple operating 16 supervisors, and they said that Mr. -Kb)(7C)cIlooked 17 sleepy but did his job.
18 Q. Mr. (b)(7C)c]
19 A. Mr. Isaid, "There have been 20 instances of I not being alert. My personal 21 observations are from meetings and training, not in the 22 control room. It has been occurring since mid-2005.
23 He's had issues with (b)(7C)C and I have 24 discussed the issue. ,has discussed it with 25 Q. And what did management do? What was --
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17 1 what did management do then after you interviewed -- on 2, the 30th of January you interviewed these management 3 folks. It was Youneen Correct?
4 A. Correct. Well, the most immediate thing 5 that was done was Mr. was removed from his 6 shift duties as a Okay. In addition, 7 the director of operations counseled, an 8 Mr~awkwaI11111k ou know, regarding his expectations for, 9 you know, thorough and prompt, you know, follow-up when 10 concerns are brought to their attention.
11 Q. And who would've done that, sir?
12 A. Ludwig Thibault.
13 Q. Was there any written record? Would you 14 know, sir?
15 A. There --
16 Q. If-you don't know --
17 A. -- there is a written record, and it's 18 here also.
19 Q. Showing that they were counseled?
20 A. Correct.
21 Q. This discussion with 22 ,inJanuary 30, it's signed by Ludwig Thibault 23 on March 3rd. And he just wrote Jon the top of 24 here, but he had a similar one where he wrote 25 on the top of it because it went into their personnel NEALR. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
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18 1 files. So that's the documentation of that counseling 2 session.
3, 0. So there would be another sheet of what 4 happened?
5 A. It would say( I just -- he j ust 6 didn't give me a copy of that one. He just gave me the 7 one. It's the same thing; he just, you know, wrote 8 on one on one, and stuck them in 9 .their --
10 Q. Did Younie --
11 A. -- respective personnel files.
12 Q. -- get one, also?
13 A. Did not.
14 Q. Okay. Sir, do you know during the 15 course of your investigation -- I know you weren't 16 looking to decide if there was any adverse actions 17 taken against Mr. for bringing up this 18 allegation.
19 A. Ask your question again.
20 Q. Well, do you know if any adverse actions 21 that were taken against Mr. for bringing up 22 this allegation?
23 A. No.
24 Q. And how do you know that, sir?
25 A. Are you asking me, am I aware--
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19 1 Q. Yeah.
2 I7\'
A-. -- of any --
3 Q. That you're aware about.
4 A. -- and the answer is no, I am not aware 5 of any --
6 Q. You're not?
7 A. -- adverse actions that were taken 8 against Mr. as a result of raising this
.9 concern.
10 Q. Okay. So based on what you 11 investigated -- I just want to go over it one more 12 e Mstates that he didn't tell
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13 Mr.i J about his allegation. Right?
14 A. Correct.
15 Q. I mean, he didn't -- before he came to 16 you, he didn't bring up that same issue about 17 Mr. *being inattentive in the control room?
18 A. To Mr. W I
Q.
- To Mr.** Right?
19 20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. And Mr. )would've been his 22 immediate supervisor that would've rated him on his 23 evaluation?
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20 1 allegations concerning -- did he ever come to you or 2 your office about allegations that he had been 3 discriminated against or received adverse actions for 4 bringing up this concern?
5 A. He did not bring those concerns to my 6 attention.
7 Q. No.
8 MR. ROMERO: Mr. Hickey?
9 CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. HICKEY:
10 Q. Mr. Hollabaugh, do you have a policy in 11 your Employee Concerns office about confidentiality 12 regarding allegations that are brought to you in your 13 work?
14 A. Our confidentiality policy is addressed 15 in our Administrative Procedure 930, which is the 16 Employee Concerns Program. And I can show you on 17 the -- just as an example here -- on an intake form 18 where right here (indicating) the employee can choose 19 confidentiality. "I confirm the following 20 confidentiality preference," and you can check 21 confidentiality or confidentiality waived.
22 And in this particular case, 23 Mr. (b)(7C)c Isaid, "Yes, I would prefer 24 confidentiality, but it is okay if my name comes up."
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21 1 but -- so I clarified it in that fashion. But the 2 answer is yes, we do have a -- the concerned individual 3 can request confidentiality or decline..
4 Q. And Mr. I(b)(7C)cI signed that form?
5 A. He did.
6 Q. And did you follow that policy in 7 dealing with your investigation of this allegation?
8 A. I did.
9 Q. Did you disclose his name?
10 A. And --
11 Q. Did you disclose Mr. I(m)(7c)C ine?
12 A. I did not. And, in fact, after doing 13 the first seven interviews of reactor operators and
[ 14 senior reactor operators during that first week after
- 15 Mr. ((b)(7C)C brought the concern to my attention, 16 basically because his concern was corroborated by seven 17 other individuals, he really became just one of eight 18 people that were telling me the same story at that 19 point. And in my mind, it was really, you know, 20 completely irrelevant that, you know, Mr.1(b)(7C)C rwas 21 the, you know, the concerned individual that had come 22 to me.
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22 1 attention?
2 A. I did not tell Mr. (b)( 7 clor Mr. (b)(7C)c 3 that the concern had been brought to my attention until 4 after Mr. (b)(7C)c I made the allegation to NRC, and his 5 name had already, you know, been divulged, at which 6 point, you know, basically the confidentiality had gone 7 away. But during the course of my investigation, no.
8 Q. When would that have been approximately, 9 sir, that you would've brought his -- mentioned his 10 name after the confidentiality was pretty much mute --
11 moot because it was an NRC investigation?
12 A. I'm going to -- you are getting me on a 13 timeline now. Okay. I'm going to say we're probably 14 into --
- 15 Q. Let me ask you -- let me put it this --
16 would it have been after March 2006?
17 A. Yes. That's -- and that's what I was 18 going -- I was going to the end of my -- this was my 19 last entry before this file was requested by 01. So --
20 and the last entry here is on April 20th. So --
21 Q. So it would've been after -- it would've 22 been after April 20th?
23 A. I would say yes.
24 Q. Okay. Approximately --
25 A. Approximately.
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23 1 Q. -- it would've been after April 20th?
2 A. Correct.
3 Q. Okay. And that April 20th would've been 4 after he would've received -- that's sometime after he 5 received his evaluation for 2005.
6 A. Oh, the evaluation would've been 7 performed long before that, and probably received 8 before that, as well.
9 Q. Okay.
10 MR. ROMERO: Mr. Hickey?
11 MR. HICKEY: I don't have anything more.
12 BY MR. ROMERO:
13 Q. Mr. Hollabaugh, do you -- can you think 14 of anything we need to.add to the record?
15 A. I think you've got an accurate picture 16 as far as what we discussed.
17 Q. Mr. Hollabaugh, have I or any other NRC 18 representative threatened you in any way or offered you 19 any reward in return for the statement you've given 20 today?
21 A. You have not.
22 Q. Have you given this statement freely and 23 voluntarily?
24 A. I have.
25 Q. Okay. This interview is concluded at NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE.,.N.W.
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24 1 9:29 a.m. on NOvember 2nd, 2006. Thank you, sir.
2 A. You're welcome.
3 Q. Appreciate it.
4 A. Thank you.
5 (WHEREIN; the interview was concluded at 6 9:29 a.m.)
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