ML072960108
| ML072960108 | |
| Person / Time | |
|---|---|
| Site: | Indian Point  |
| Issue date: | 06/12/2007 |
| From: | Rice T State of NY, Dept of Environmental Conservation |
| To: | Orr J Engineering Region 1 Branch 3 |
| References | |
| FOIA/PA-2007-0324 | |
| Download: ML072960108 (3) | |
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J *esNoggle- RE: Update from last week's IP b!-w..kly gov't stakeholder phone call Page 1 From: "Timothy Rice" <tbrice@gw.dec.state.ny.us>
To: <calhoun@assembly.stateny,.us> cedaL * >"S
<galefs@assembly.state.ny.us>, "Adam Stieb eling"l('Ijb)(6
<Lori. HallArmstrong@chamber.state.ny.us>; <mich*a. monichaiber.nstat6_ryus>,
<kdulgerian@co.orange.ny.us>, <sleary@co.orange.ny.us>, "Daniel Greeley"
<greeleyd@co.rockland.ny.us>, <longon@co.rockland.ny.us>, "C.J. Miller" <millerc@co.rockland.ny.us>,
<Paul eddy@dps.state.ny.us>, "Barbara Youngberg" <bayoungb@gw.dec.state.ny.us>, "Adela Salame-Alfie" <asa01 @health.state.ny.us>, "Robert P. Snyder" <rps02@health.state.ny.us>, "Daniel Orr"
<JDO@nrc.gov>, "Alyse Peterson" <alp@nyserda.org>, "Jack Spath" <jps@nyserda.org>,
<jodi.feld@oag.stpte.ny.us>, <Joh!.sipos@oag.state.ny.us>, <Katherine. kennedy@oag.state. ny. us>,
"Adam Stiebling" b)(6) <robert.bondi@putnamcountyny.com>,
<Andrew.feeney,@semo.state.ny.us>, <IKen.bergmann@semo.state.ny.us>,
<kevin.kraus@semo.state.ny.us>, "Jeff Tkacs" <JeffT@townofcortlandt.com>, "Linda Puglisi"
<lindap@townofcortlandt.com>, "Anthony Sutton" <awsl @westchestergov.com>, "Nell Sweeting"
<nes2@westchestergov.com>, "Paul Kutzy" <pjk3@westchestergov.com>, "Raymond Albanese"
<rlal @westchestergov.com>, "Susan Tolchin" <sttl @westchestergov.com>, "Christopher Crane"
<ChrisC@westchesterlegislators.com>
Date: ' 06/12/2007 2:26:19 PM
Subject:
RE: Update from last week's IP bi-weekly gov't stakeholder phone call Hello Tony, Since the State initially asked for this enhanced sampling effort and has taken the lead in the planning, I will take a shot at answering your questions.
A DEC fisheries biologist with many years of experience on the Hudson has been and will continue to be present for much, though not all, of the sampling.
From the beginning we stated that our goal was to observe as much of the sampling and sample documentation effort as staff availability allowed.
Samples are being accumulated in cold storage until such time as all necessary sample volumes are acquired.
If everything goes as planned (and that is admittedly a rarity when it comes to fishing) sample collection will be completed late this week or early next week.
The samples will then be transported to Normandeau's main lab for preparation (including separation of flesh and bone), compositing, sample splitting, and shipment to the respective labs.
This process will be observed by a DEC staff member.
The flesh from each species at each location will be composited and split three ways.
Thus, for example, there will be three white perch fish flesh samples from the indicator area near the IP plant to be sent to Wadsworth Lab for the State, ORISE Lab for NRC, and AREVA lab for Entergy.
All three will analyze them for Sr-90.
Regarding the bone samples, the State (DEC and DOH working cooperatively) will prepare and analyze fish bone samples for each species-specific composite (as described above), for all three sample collection areas. Bone will have the flesh removed using dermestid (beatle) colonies owned by the State Museum that they normally use to prepare animal skeletons for display. Once the flesh has been removed they will be sent to Wadsworth lab for physical and chemical preparation and analysis. Please note that this sample preparation process, including the removal of all flesh, can take a significantly longer period of time than flesh preparation. Thus the fish flesh results will be completed before the bone results.
Dan can verify this and provide the NRC's thinking regarding that decision, but it is our understanding that the NRC has decided not to participate in the fish bone analysis.
Please note that John White is currently on vacation. His absence may have contributed to any confusion regarding NRC intentý-
Regardless, the State is continuing with it's plans to analyze the bone samples.
Information in this record was deleted in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act.
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am~e-s*Noggle- RE: Update from last week's IP bi-weekly gov't stakeholderjphone call Page 2 (In answer to your question, you are correct in your recollection of our discussions about how Sr behaves in fish correctly. Strontium is a calcium analog, meaning that like calcium it concentrates in bones at a higher rate than it does in flesh. Thus, while Sr in bone is not a good indicator of the "pathway to man" the way Sr analysis of fish flesh is, it is a more sensitive indicator of very low levels of Sr-90 in the environment. The problem with fish bone is of course being able to collect sufficient mass for analysis.)
Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
Tim Rice NYSDEC Env Radiation Specialist II 625 Broadway, 9th floor Albany, NY12233-7255 Phone (518)402-8574 fax, hard copy (518)402-8646
>>> "Sutton, Anthony" <awsl @westchestergov.com> 6/12/07 12:58 PM >>>
Hello Dan, I am not clear on your response and have several questions.
It was my understanding the DEC and NRC may not both be present when the sampling is done, but would share the sample.
Are there arrangements in place to confirm the sampling integrity, i.e.,
will someone other than Entergy and its vendor be present during the sampling?
Are you splitting samples one on one with DEC and Entergy for each sampling taken by the vendor?
I thought after last years results, we had agreed that the bones of the fish would be analyzed for Strontium 90. As I recall we had a lengthy discussion during a stakeholder call about Strontium "going to the bone" and that it would be a more statistically significant analysis, rather than the flesh. Did that decision change?
Thanks, Anthony W. Sutton, Commissioner Westchester County Department of Emergency Services 914-231-1851 awsl @westchestergov.com Westchester County wants to be able to contact you in an emergency.
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From: Daniel Orr [1]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:40 PM To: calhoun@assembly.s ate.n us-castel assembly.state.ny.us; Sandy Galef; Adam Stiebeling b)(6)
Lori. HallArmstrong@cham ber.state, ny. us, michael.balboni@chamber.state. ny.us; kdulgerian@co.orange.ny.us; sleary@co.orange.ny.us; Daniel Greeley; longon@co.rockland.ny.us; C.J.
Miller; Paul eddy@dps.state. ny.us; Barbara Youngberg; Tim Rice; Adela Salame-Alfie; Robert P. Snyder; Alyse Peterson; Jack Spath; jodi.feld@oag.state.ny.us; John.sipos@oag.state.ny.us; Katherine.kennedy@oag.state.ny.us; Adam Stiebling; robert.bondi@putnamcountyny.com; Andrew.feeney@semo.state.ny.us; ken.bergmann@semo.state.ny.us; kevin.kraus@semo.state.ny.us; Jeff Tkacs; Linda Puglisi; Sutton, Anthony; Sweeting, Neil; Kutzy, Paul; Albanese, Raymond; Tolchin, Susan; Crane, Christopher Cc: Blake Welling; Diane Screnci; Edwin Gray; James Noggle; Daniel Orr; James Kottan; John White; Marjorie McLaughlin; Neil Sheehan; Raeann Shane; Richard Barkley
Subject:
Update from last week's IP bi-weekly gov't stakeholder phonecall Last Thursday a government stakeholder asked of the NRC its plans for confirmatory sampling of the upcoming fish samples. The current plan is for NRC to do confirmatory measurement of fish samples taken from near the plant site and from the normal sampling site about 20 miles upstream of Indian Point. The flesh of fish samples are to be analyzed for Strontium 90 with the results compared to those of NY DEC and Entergy.
Very Respectfully, Dan Orr Senior Project Engineer, USNRC Region 1 (610) 337-5048 jdo@nrc.gov CC: "Blake Welling" <BDW@nrc.gov>, "Diane Screnci" <DPS@nrc.gov>, "Edwin Gray"
<EHG@nrc.gov>, "James Noggle" <JDN@nrc.gov>, "James Kottan" <JJK@nrc.gov>, "John White"
<JRW1@nrc.gov>, "Marjorie McLaughlin" <MMM3@nrc.gov>, "Neil Sheehan" <NAS@nrc.gov>, "Raeann Shane" <RMS2@nrc.gov>, "Richard Barkley" <RSB1 @nrc.gov>