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Site: | Nuclear Energy Institute |
Issue date: | 04/03/2007 |
From: | Charles Moulton NRC/NRR/ADRA/DRA/AFPB, Nuclear Energy Institute |
To: | Jamar B Nuclear Energy Institute |
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Brandon, Attached is an advance e-copy of draft comments on FAQ 8 rev 3. This document will be a handout for the 4/26 public meeting. Please distribute it to the task force/writing group. This document is a summary of the comments Dan talked to you about last week.
Chuck Charles Moulton Fire Protection Engineer NRR/DRA/AFPB Phone: 415-2751 Mailstop: O11A11
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Dans comments on Rev 3:
- Break down section 3.8 (similar to the way they itemized 3.11), since my reading of the chapter 4 exclusion to section 3.8 only applies to 3.8.2. I believe that the other sections of 3.8 fall under the NFPA code exclusion.
- 3.11.1 is not subject to the Chapter 4 exclusion.
- In the table on page 6, it states at the top of the first column 50.48(c) requirement, this should be 50.48(c).2.vii requirement.
- In the 1.205 table (on page 7), the statement, "once the process is added . . ." may be problematic. I don't see this as a show stopper, but the NRC staff needs to look into the implications of this not being complete. There is a cart before the horse issue here; which comes first: the RIS or the updated 04-02/RG 1.205? My thought is that we need to have the process attached to the FAQ so we can say that it is okay in the RIS. Process wise, you may not be able to have open ended statements in this type of document.
o Suggestion: I think the answer to this question on 1.205 is that an alternative method will not be used. c.2.vii does not require an alternative method. So the open ended statement could be replaced with a statement like, "an alternative method is not proposed, the existing performance-based methods will be applied, but will be applied in a very limited fashion to (nfpa codes and listings)." Do you think that this will fly?
- The added tables were looked at pretty closely during an older revision, so assuming nothing has changed there, they should be okay.
Thanks you for capturing these comments. We will address these immediately.
Brandon
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NRC comments on FAQ 8 revision 3
- Brandon, Attached is an advance e-copy of draft comments on FAQ 8 rev 3. This document will be a handout for the 4/26 public meeting. Please distribute it to the task force/writing group. This document is a summary of the comments Dan talked to you about last week.
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- Brandon, Do you have an update on the status of FAQs 16 and 18?
We are still awaiting the final revision of these two. The writing team requested that we hold off closure until we recieved the final revisions, which would fully resolve the AFPB Staff's comments. Sunil is most interested in ensuring that our resolutions are final so they can be included in the RIS.
We expected to have the new revisions by now. Unfortunately, if we can't get the new revisions prior to the telecon, the schedule will force us to go with the closure memos as they exist.
- Thanks, Chuck Charles Moulton Fire Protection Engineer NRR/DRA/AFPB Phone: 415-2751 Mailstop: O11A11
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Please find revision 1 to FAQs 06-0016 & 06-0018 which are attached for submittal. Two versions of each are provided. One shows changes and one shows changes accepted.
If you have any questions regarding this transmittal please give me a call.
Thank you, Brandon T. Jamar Project Manager, Engineering Nuclear Energy Institute 1776 I Street NW, Suite 400 Washington, DC 20006
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Junk List is not enabled Junk Mail using personal address books is not enabled Block List is not enabled Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 Plant: Harris Nuclear Plant (HNP) FAQ # 06-0016 Submittal Date: 03-22-07 Deleted: 11-6-06 Licensee
Contact:
David Miskiewicz Tele/email 919-546-7588 NRC
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FPWG RIRWG NSSS OG NFPA 805 TF
Subject:
Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Source counting guidance for Electrical Cabinets in NUREG/CR-6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA application.
Interpretation of guidance? Yes Proposed new guidance not in NEI 04-02? Yes Details:
NEI 04-02 Guidance needing interpretation (include section, paragraph number, and line number):
New attachment on interpretation issues Circumstances requiring guidance interpretation or new guidance:
The guidance provided in NUREG/CR-6850 for Task 6, Fire Ignition Frequency (Section 6.5.6, Bin 15), states:
Bin 15 - Electrical Cabinets (Plant-Wide Components): Electrical cabinets represent such items as switchgears, motor control centers, DC distribution panels, relay cabinets, control and switch panels (excluding panels that are part of machinery), fire protection panels, etc. Electrical cabinets in a nuclear power plant vary significantly in size, configuration, and voltage. Size variation range from small-wall mounted units to large walk-through vertical control cabinets, which can be 20 to 30 long. The configuration can vary based on number of components that contribute to ignition, such as relays and circuit cards, and combustible loading, which also affects the fire frequency. Voltages in electrical cabinets vary from low voltage (120 V) panels to 6.9 kV switchgears. Even though it is expected that these features affect the likelihood of fire ignition, from a simple analysis of the event data involving the electrical cabinets, it was determined that the variation by cabinet type did not warrant separate frequency evaluation. Therefore, one fire frequency was estimated for the electrical cabinets.
This guidance infers that cabinet size is not a factor for ignition source counting. However, additional guidance states that electrical cabinets should be counted by their vertical segments .... During the presentation of Pilot Project results it was determined that differences related to the definition of segments could result in notable inconsistency between individual users of NUREG/CR-6850.
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Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 The discussion of this issue found that this issue affects only general electrical cabinets and panels. In the case of switchgears, load centers, unit substations, and motor control centers the term segment was uniformly interpreted to be equal to the individual vertical sections that define these types of components. As applied to general electrical cabinets and panels, the term segments could be interpreted to mean different metrics.
A segment could be defined as an enclosed element that is generally independent of size or volume (also referred to as a vertical section).
A segment could be defined as an individual section of an enclosure regardless of whether it was fully enclosed.
A segment could be defined based on a standard or reference sample panel size.
Depending on the metric being used, the counting of electrical cabinets would result in varying results and consequently, different fire ignition frequency values. While NUREG/CR-6850 allows the establishment of plant specific criteria for counting of electrical cabinets, additional guidance is required to achieve a consistent basis for determining the ignition frequencies.
Detail contentious points if licensee and NRC have not reached agreement This topic has impact on the NFPA-805 pilots, non-pilots and other users of NUREG/CR-6850.
Potentially relevant existing FAQ numbers:
This guidance is specific to the characterization of electrical cabinets for Bin 15 ignition frequency determination. The characterization of switchgear and load center segments for the purposes of high energy arcing faults is addressed by FAQ 06-0017.
Response Section A generalized counting criterion for general electrical cabinets and panels is proposed. This proposed criterion would involve two elements.
For switchgears, load centers, unit substations, and motor control centers the counting for the purposes of NUREG/CR-6850, Task 6, Bin 15 would be based on vertical section. This counting is illustrated in the following examples.
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Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 Medium Voltage Switchgear 9 Breakers and Sections Count = 9 for Bin 15 Load Center or Unit Substation 16 Breakers in 4 Sections Count = 4 for Bin 15 Motor Control Center 41 Breakers/Starters in 9 Sections Count = 9 for Bin 15 For general electrical cabinets and panels, counting is based on externally apparent vertical sections. No examination of the internal construction is required.
Deleted: For general electrical cabinets and panels, it is proposed that the This proposed counting for electrical cabinets and panels is to be applied for a wide range of counting be based on a physically panel sizes. However, recognizing that the ignition frequency is more a function of the enclosed element. A physically enclosed element means that that the cabinet or cabinet contents than the cabinet size, a basis is needed to address outlier conditions. It is panel is fully enclosed by 6 solid proposed that each user be required to establish criteria for identifying the outliers and the elements with the provision that a non-combustible floor or ceiling may basis for counting them. As an example, they can be counted by establishing a nominal represent the bottom or top. The term standard or reference cabinet size. The count could also be based on evaluating the solid element is not intended to mean that the element is substantially cabinet internals relative to a defined standard or reference configuration. continuous. Consequently, breeches or unsealed penetrations could still be treated as solid. The term solid is For example, a particular user may define a cabinet with any horizontal dimension more intended to prevent a panel that is divided than 8 feet as an outlier, and a standard cabinet as being nominally 4 feet in length x 3 feet by an element that is substantially open from being treated as two separate panels.¶ deep. (cabinet height is not generally an issue based on the use of vertical sections). Using this example, the following cabinet and panel examples would be counted as follows:
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Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 6 ft Cabinet is not an outlier -
Count = 1 Cabinet is same as standard Count = 1 Externally, the cabinet appears to have 6 vertical sections. The construction of internal dividers is unknown or open.
Count = 6 Deleted: Internal dividers are not solid¶ Count = 1 Internal dividers are solid Count = 6 Three independent cabinets Count = 3 12 feet, 3 ft deep Panel is an outlier, using a 4 standard cabinet -
Count = 3 9 ft long , 6 ft deep Cabinet is an outlier, no evaluation of contents, based on reference cabinet Count = 3 - due to both variation from the standard length and width..
9 ft long , 6 ft deep Cabinet is an outlier, evaluation of Walk Through Cabinet contents shows small set of ignition sources typical of the standard Deleted: low cable loading cabinet -
Count = 1 4
Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 The intent is that a basis for the counting of outliers is required. A volumetric comparison is not required. Also, to prevent any appearance that this treatment is intended to be based on physical measurements, the proposed approach allows only integer counting. The assignment of fractional values would not be allowed. In addition, the proposed methodology retains the option for screening small cabinets resulting in a count of zero for them (as discussed in NUREG/CR-6850). As applied in this case, the user would be allowed to screen cabinets or panels based on defined criteria and exclude them from the overall population count. When performing detailed fire modeling, the fire should be applied to the actual cabinet footprint by vertical section, including outliers.
Basis:
The existing guidance in NUREG/CR-6850 is based on industry data which has only been provided with fidelity adequate to support plant level ignition frequencies for electrical cabinets. Although the guidance does address the broad applicability of the data, it leaves room for variability that can create issues with PRA quality. It is important that the ignition frequency results be of sufficient quality to support not only NFPA-805 transition but also the more broad scope of regulatory inspection and enforcement issues.
The guidance proposed will provide more consistency when determining plant specific electrical cabinet ignition frequencies while working within the bounds of the exiting data provided by the NUREG. This should facilitate the review and acceptability of the results.
5 FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 Plant: Harris Nuclear Plant (HNP) FAQ # 06-0016 Submittal Date: 03-22-07 Licensee
Contact:
David Miskiewicz Tele/email 919-546-7588 NRC
Contact:
Tele/email Distribution: Check all that apply (NEI Internal Use)
FPWG RIRWG NSSS OG NFPA 805 TF
Subject:
Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Source counting guidance for Electrical Cabinets in NUREG/CR-6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA application.
Interpretation of guidance? Yes Proposed new guidance not in NEI 04-02? Yes Details:
NEI 04-02 Guidance needing interpretation (include section, paragraph number, and line number):
New attachment on interpretation issues Circumstances requiring guidance interpretation or new guidance:
The guidance provided in NUREG/CR-6850 for Task 6, Fire Ignition Frequency (Section 6.5.6, Bin 15), states:
Bin 15 - Electrical Cabinets (Plant-Wide Components): Electrical cabinets represent such items as switchgears, motor control centers, DC distribution panels, relay cabinets, control and switch panels (excluding panels that are part of machinery), fire protection panels, etc. Electrical cabinets in a nuclear power plant vary significantly in size, configuration, and voltage. Size variation range from small-wall mounted units to large walk-through vertical control cabinets, which can be 20 to 30 long. The configuration can vary based on number of components that contribute to ignition, such as relays and circuit cards, and combustible loading, which also affects the fire frequency. Voltages in electrical cabinets vary from low voltage (120 V) panels to 6.9 kV switchgears. Even though it is expected that these features affect the likelihood of fire ignition, from a simple analysis of the event data involving the electrical cabinets, it was determined that the variation by cabinet type did not warrant separate frequency evaluation. Therefore, one fire frequency was estimated for the electrical cabinets.
This guidance infers that cabinet size is not a factor for ignition source counting. However, additional guidance states that electrical cabinets should be counted by their vertical segments .... During the presentation of Pilot Project results it was determined that differences related to the definition of segments could result in notable inconsistency between individual users of NUREG/CR-6850.
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FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 The discussion of this issue found that this issue affects only general electrical cabinets and panels. In the case of switchgears, load centers, unit substations, and motor control centers the term segment was uniformly interpreted to be equal to the individual vertical sections that define these types of components. As applied to general electrical cabinets and panels, the term segments could be interpreted to mean different metrics.
A segment could be defined as an enclosed element that is generally independent of size or volume (also referred to as a vertical section).
A segment could be defined as an individual section of an enclosure regardless of whether it was fully enclosed.
A segment could be defined based on a standard or reference sample panel size.
Depending on the metric being used, the counting of electrical cabinets would result in varying results and consequently, different fire ignition frequency values. While NUREG/CR-6850 allows the establishment of plant specific criteria for counting of electrical cabinets, additional guidance is required to achieve a consistent basis for determining the ignition frequencies.
Detail contentious points if licensee and NRC have not reached agreement This topic has impact on the NFPA-805 pilots, non-pilots and other users of NUREG/CR-6850.
Potentially relevant existing FAQ numbers:
This guidance is specific to the characterization of electrical cabinets for Bin 15 ignition frequency determination. The characterization of switchgear and load center segments for the purposes of high energy arcing faults is addressed by FAQ 06-0017.
Response Section A generalized counting criterion for general electrical cabinets and panels is proposed. This proposed criterion would involve two elements.
For switchgears, load centers, unit substations, and motor control centers the counting for the purposes of NUREG/CR-6850, Task 6, Bin 15 would be based on vertical section. This counting is illustrated in the following examples.
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FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 Medium Voltage Switchgear 9 Breakers and Sections Count = 9 for Bin 15 Load Center or Unit Substation 16 Breakers in 4 Sections Count = 4 for Bin 15 Motor Control Center 41 Breakers/Starters in 9 Sections Count = 9 for Bin 15 For general electrical cabinets and panels, counting is based on externally apparent vertical sections. No examination of the internal construction is required.
This proposed counting for electrical cabinets and panels is to be applied for a wide range of panel sizes. However, recognizing that the ignition frequency is more a function of the cabinet contents than the cabinet size, a basis is needed to address outlier conditions. It is proposed that each user be required to establish criteria for identifying the outliers and the basis for counting them. As an example, they can be counted by establishing a nominal standard or reference cabinet size. The count could also be based on evaluating the cabinet internals relative to a defined standard or reference configuration.
For example, a particular user may define a cabinet with any horizontal dimension more than 8 feet as an outlier, and a standard cabinet as being nominally 4 feet in length x 3 feet deep. (cabinet height is not generally an issue based on the use of vertical sections). Using this example, the following cabinet and panel examples would be counted as follows:
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FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 6 ft Cabinet is not an outlier -
Count = 1 Cabinet is same as standard Count = 1 Externally, the cabinet appears to have 6 vertical sections. The construction of internal dividers is unknown or open.
Count = 6 Internal dividers are solid Count = 6 Three independent cabinets Count = 3 12 feet, 3 ft deep Panel is an outlier, using a 4 standard cabinet -
Count = 3 9 ft long , 6 ft deep Cabinet is an outlier, no evaluation of contents, based on reference cabinet Count = 3 - due to both variation from the standard length and width..
9 ft long , 6 ft deep Cabinet is an outlier, evaluation of Walk Through Cabinet contents shows small set of ignition sources typical of the standard cabinet -
Count = 1 4
FAQ Number 06-0016, Revision 1 The intent is that a basis for the counting of outliers is required. A volumetric comparison is not required. Also, to prevent any appearance that this treatment is intended to be based on physical measurements, the proposed approach allows only integer counting. The assignment of fractional values would not be allowed. In addition, the proposed methodology retains the option for screening small cabinets resulting in a count of zero for them (as discussed in NUREG/CR-6850). As applied in this case, the user would be allowed to screen cabinets or panels based on defined criteria and exclude them from the overall population count. When performing detailed fire modeling, the fire should be applied to the actual cabinet footprint by vertical section, including outliers.
Basis:
The existing guidance in NUREG/CR-6850 is based on industry data which has only been provided with fidelity adequate to support plant level ignition frequencies for electrical cabinets. Although the guidance does address the broad applicability of the data, it leaves room for variability that can create issues with PRA quality. It is important that the ignition frequency results be of sufficient quality to support not only NFPA-805 transition but also the more broad scope of regulatory inspection and enforcement issues.
The guidance proposed will provide more consistency when determining plant specific electrical cabinet ignition frequencies while working within the bounds of the exiting data provided by the NUREG. This should facilitate the review and acceptability of the results.
5 Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0018, Revision 1 Plant: Harris Nuclear Plant (HNP) FAQ # 06-0018 Submittal Date: 3-22-07 Deleted: 11-6-06 Licensee
Contact:
David Miskiewicz Tele/email 919-546-7588 NRC
Contact:
Tele/email Distribution: Check all that apply (NEI Internal Use) 1
FPWG RIRWG NSSS OG NFPA 805 TF
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Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Source counting guidance for Main Control Board (MCB) in NUREG/CR-6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA application.
Interpretation of guidance? Yes Proposed new guidance not in NEI 04-02? Yes Details:
NEI 04-02 Guidance needing interpretation (include section, paragraph number, and line number):
New attachment on interpretation issues Circumstances requiring guidance interpretation or new guidance:
NUREG/CR-6850, Section 6.5.6 The guidance provided in NUREG/CR-6850 for Task 6, Fire Ignition Frequency, is subject to application inconsistency in the treatment of Main Control Board (Bin 4). The guidance for Task 6 does not provide any specific definition or characterization of what constitutes a Main Control Board (MCB) other than a reference to it being the central element of the room. A discussion amongst the Pilot Plants that included consideration of other plants in their respective fleets found wide variability in the configuration of the main control room. There was a concern that inconsistent treatment of this bin would unnecessarily challenge the completion and review of the Fire PRA. This challenge would be manifested by a notable change in the fire frequency assigned to an individual panel depending on whether it was counted as Bin 4 or Bin 15.
Further review of NUREG/CR-6850 found that a definition of MCB is provided in Appendix L.
However, this Appendix develops a fire modeling treatment of fire behavior within a panel enclosure. There was a concern that absent documented agreement, there could be a future challenge to the use of the definition in Appendix L for the purposes of Task 6, Bin 4 counting.
Detail contentious points if licensee and NRC have not reached agreement This topic has impact on the NFPA-805 pilots, non-pilots and other users of NUREG/CR-6850.
Deleted: 0b FAQ Number 06-0018, Revision 1 Potentially relevant existing FAQ numbers:
This guidance is specific to the characterization of Main Control Board for Bin 4 determination.
The characterization and counting of electrical cabinets for Bin 15 determination is addressed by FAQ 06-0016.
Response Section It is proposed that the definition of Main Control Board provided in NUREG/CR-6850, Appendix L be accepted as also being applicable for Task 6, Bin 4 counting. Any panel that is detached from the main horseshoe would generally be excluded from this definition of the main control board with few exceptions.
Basis:
The guidance proposed will provide more consistency when determining plant specific control room ignition frequencies while working within the bounds of the exiting data provided by the NUREG. This should facilitate the review and acceptability of the results.
3 FAQ Number 06-0018, Revision 1 Plant: Harris Nuclear Plant (HNP) FAQ # 06-0018 Submittal Date: 3-22-07 Licensee
Contact:
David Miskiewicz Tele/email 919-546-7588 NRC
Contact:
Tele/email Distribution: Check all that apply (NEI Internal Use)
FPWG RIRWG NSSS OG NFPA 805 TF
Subject:
Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Source counting guidance for Main Control Board (MCB) in NUREG/CR-6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA application.
Interpretation of guidance? Yes Proposed new guidance not in NEI 04-02? Yes Details:
NEI 04-02 Guidance needing interpretation (include section, paragraph number, and line number):
New attachment on interpretation issues Circumstances requiring guidance interpretation or new guidance:
NUREG/CR-6850, Section 6.5.6 The guidance provided in NUREG/CR-6850 for Task 6, Fire Ignition Frequency, is subject to application inconsistency in the treatment of Main Control Board (Bin 4). The guidance for Task 6 does not provide any specific definition or characterization of what constitutes a Main Control Board (MCB) other than a reference to it being the central element of the room. A discussion amongst the Pilot Plants that included consideration of other plants in their respective fleets found wide variability in the configuration of the main control room. There was a concern that inconsistent treatment of this bin would unnecessarily challenge the completion and review of the Fire PRA. This challenge would be manifested by a notable change in the fire frequency assigned to an individual panel depending on whether it was counted as Bin 4 or Bin 15.
Further review of NUREG/CR-6850 found that a definition of MCB is provided in Appendix L.
However, this Appendix develops a fire modeling treatment of fire behavior within a panel enclosure. There was a concern that absent documented agreement, there could be a future challenge to the use of the definition in Appendix L for the purposes of Task 6, Bin 4 counting.
Detail contentious points if licensee and NRC have not reached agreement This topic has impact on the NFPA-805 pilots, non-pilots and other users of NUREG/CR-6850.
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Potentially relevant existing FAQ numbers:
This guidance is specific to the characterization of Main Control Board for Bin 4 determination.
The characterization and counting of electrical cabinets for Bin 15 determination is addressed by FAQ 06-0016.
Response Section It is proposed that the definition of Main Control Board provided in NUREG/CR-6850, Appendix L be accepted as also being applicable for Task 6, Bin 4 counting. Any panel that is detached from the main horseshoe would generally be excluded from this definition of the main control board with few exceptions.
Basis:
The guidance proposed will provide more consistency when determining plant specific control room ignition frequencies while working within the bounds of the exiting data provided by the NUREG. This should facilitate the review and acceptability of the results.
- Brandon, Dan will complete FAQ-06-008.
Phil has completed FAQ-06-012. We will share it on 2/26.
What is the next most important FAQ? FAQ-06-005? FAQ-06-011? Consult with the pilots and let us know asap.
Sunil
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The next highest FAQ priority is FAQ 11.
The following have the next, but equal priorities: FAQs 5, 16, 17, 18 Brandon
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Junk Mail handling disabled by User Junk Mail handling disabled by Administrator Junk List is not enabled Junk Mail using personal address books is not enabled Block List is not enabled FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses Plant: Harris Date: 4/9/07
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Jeff Ertman Phone: 919-546-3681 Email: jeffrey.ertman@pgnmail.com Distribution: (NEI Internal Use) 805 TF FPWG RATF RIRWG BWROG PWROG Purpose of FAQ:
The purpose of FAQ 06-0008 is to provide a process/method for the use of fire protection engineering analyses post-transition to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements. Currently, licensees may self approve these evaluations under the existing fire protection license conditions.
The process/method discussed in this FAQ will be submitted for approval as part of the transition license amendment request (LAR). The process/method to be submitted in the LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Post-transition, licensees will use this process/method to self approve acceptable fire protection engineering analyses.
Is this Interpretation of guidance? Yes / No Proposed new guidance not in NEI 04-02? Yes / No Details:
NEI 04-02 guidance needing interpretation (include section, paragraph, and line numbers as applicable):
Sections 2.3, 2.4, 4.3.1, 4.6.1, 5.3.2, Appendix H, and Appendix I of NEI 04-02 Revision 1.
Circumstances requiring guidance interpretation or new guidance:
Risk-informed, performance-based fire protection engineering analyses are an acceptable alternative to the deterministic approaches in NFPA 805 Chapter 4. Some sections of Chapter 3 are conditional based upon Chapter 4 requirements; therefore, risk-informed, performance-based methods are allowed for those sections under NFPA 805 / 10 CFR 50.48 (c). Risk-informed, performance-based fire protection engineering analyses may also be needed to document the acceptability of fire protection systems and features addressed in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections that are not conditional based upon Chapter 4 requirements. Current licensing basis allows flexibility to use performance-based technical analysis per Generic Letter 86-10. An approach Deleted: An alternative method using these types of analyses is needed to allow this flexibility following transition to NFPA 805. (approach)
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FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses Detail contentious points if licensee and NRC have not reached consensus on the facts and circumstances:
The fire protection program elements and minimum design requirements of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 may be subject to the performance-based methods permitted elsewhere in NFPA 805 per 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii), as long as the appropriate regulatory processes (i.e., a license amendment request) are utilized.
A process for a 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii) License Amendment Request has not yet been agreed upon.
Potentially relevant existing FAQ numbers:
FAQ 06-0004 includes a process for defining fire protection systems and features required to meet NFPA 805 Chapter 3 criteria.
Response Section:
Proposed resolution of FAQ and the basis for the proposal:
A high-level purpose of NFPA 805, as implemented under the endorsement of 10 CFR 50.48(c),
is to clarify how licensees may use the flexibility afforded by 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii) to develop a process to maintain the current flexibility available to licensees under Generic Letter (GL) 86-10 evaluations.
BACKGROUND 10 CFR 50.48(c) requires licensees to submit 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment requests for any changes to Chapter 3 features of NFPA 805, unless they have been previously approved by the NRC. Under the standard license condition of GL 86-10, licensees are allowed to make certain types of changes without prior NRC approval as long as the changes do not adversely affect the plants ability to safely shutdown in the event of a fire.
To apply this process/method, licensees must send the proposed process/methods outlined in this FAQ to the NRC for approval. Then, they may use the approved processes/methods without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes. Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative as discussed in NFPA 805 Section 3.1.
The licensees process/methodology must request an amendment under 10 CFR 50.90, using the flexibility available under 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii), Performance-Based Methods, to allow 10 CFR 50.48(c) licensees to establish a process that enables them to make changes to Chapter 3 of NFPA 805, as long as those changes only affect the referenced standards and listings, such as Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. or Factory Mutual listings. Under the proposal the licensee will commit to a process to evaluate deviations from secondary codes and listings required by NFPA Page 2 of 8 FAQ 06-0008 rev 4a engineering analyses.doc
FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses 805 Chapter 3. The NFPA 805 change evaluation process will be used to ensure that nuclear safety performance goals, objectives and criteria are satisfied along with defense-in-depth and safety margins, as described in 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii).
Therefore, application of this process/method requires two steps. First, the process/methods and bounds of the process must be submitted to the NRC for approval. Second, following approval by the NRC, all plant specific changes made under this license amendment will undergo the same evaluation process as part of 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii). This second step, application of the process/method, will not require NRC approval.
This process/method would not apply to NFPA 805 Chapter 3 changes that do not relate to either NFPA codes or listings or changes that are not conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4. These types of changes would continue to require individual 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment requests addressing the specific deviation.
PROCESS Proposed addition to the post-NFPA transition fire protection standard license condition (Section C.3.1 of Regulatory Guide 1.205):
Licensees may perform change evaluations for fundamental fire protection program and design elements of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 that are conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements.
Licensees may also perform change evaluations for deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components mentioned in NFPA 805, without a 10 CFR 50.90 submittal, as long as the specific requirement for the feature is not included in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 itself, and the NFPA 805 change process is used.
The following provides the sections of NFPA 805 that will utilize this process/method. Sections that are addressed conditionally by Chapter 4 performance-based process are also identified for completeness.
Column Heading Definition:
Fire Protection Engineering Analysis Process Applicable: Sections of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 containing referenced codes and listings. Note the Applicability would only apply to the referenced codes and listings contained within these sections, and the process could not be used to change the NFPA 805 Chapter 3 specific requirements.
Chapter 4 Conditional Section: These NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements. The requested use of fire protection engineering evaluations for these sections are not limited to referenced codes and listings.
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FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses Fire Protection Engineering Analysis and Chapter 4 Not Applicable: These NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections do not have NFPA 805 Chapter 4 conditions and do not have referenced codes and listings. Therefore, the process/method associated with this FAQ is not applicable and would be outside the scope of the associated LAR.
Section Title FP Eng. Analysis Chapter 4 FP Eng.
Process Conditional Analysis Applicable Section Process and Chapter 4 Not Applicable 3.1 General X 3.2 Fire Protection Plan X 3.2.1 Intent X Management Policy Direction and 3.2.2 Responsibility X 3.2.3 Procedures X 3.3 Prevention X Fire Prevention for Operational 3.3.1 Activities X 3.3.2 Structural X 3.3.3 Interior Finishes X 3.3.4 Insulation Materials X 3.3.5 Electrical X 3.3.6 Roofs X 3.3.7 Bulk Flammable Gas Storage X Bulk Storage of Flammable and 3.3.8 Combustible Liquids X 3.3.9 Transformers X 3.3.10 Hot Pipes and Surfaces X 3.3.11 Electrical Equipment (Note 1) X 3.3.12 Reactor Coolant Pumps (Note 1) X 3.4 Industrial Fire Brigade 3.4.1 On-Site Fire Fighting Capability X 3.4.2 Pre-Fire Plans X Page 4 of 8 FAQ 06-0008 rev 4a engineering analyses.doc
FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses Section Title FP Eng. Analysis Chapter 4 FP Eng.
Process Conditional Analysis Applicable Section Process and Chapter 4 Not Applicable 3.4.3 Training and Drills X 3.4.4 Fire Fighting Equipment X 3.4.5 Off-Site Fire Department Interface X 3.4.6 Communications X 3.5 Water Supply X 3.6 Standpipe and Hose Stations X 3.7 Fire Extinguishers X Deleted: X 3.8 Fire Alarm and Detection Systems 3.8.1 Fire Alarm X 3.8.2 Detection X Automatic and Manual Water-3.9 Based Fire Suppression Systems X Gaseous Fire Suppression 3.10. Systems X 3.11 Passive Fire Protection Features X Deleted: X 3.11.1 Building Separation (Note 3) X 3.11.2 Fire Barriers X 3.11.3 Fire Barrier Penetrations X Through Penetration Fire Stops 3.11.4 (Note 2) X Electrical Raceway Fire Barrier 3.11.5 Systems (ERFBS) X Note 1 - Separate FAQs will be used to clarify the applicability of engineering analyses to the requirements of Section 3.3.11 and 3.3.12 of NFPA 805.
Note 2 - Through penetration fire stops referenced in Section 3.11.4 of NFPA 805 are considered conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements, since they are integral to fire barriers (Section 3.11.2)
Note 3 - Section 3.11.1 of NFPA 805 contains an exception for performance-based analysis.
The process in this FAQ is not applicable.
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FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses EXAMPLE Section 3.6.1 of NFPA 805 requires a hose system to be installed per NFPA 14. Using this process/method, a hose system must be available and have access to all power block buildings, and must also be a Class III standpipe, but may deviate from other specific requirements of NFPA 14. These deviations must not contradict other text in Chapter 3 of NFPA 805. The NFPA 805 change evaluation process will be used to ensure that nuclear safety performance goals, objectives and criteria are satisfied along with defense-in-depth and safety margins, as described in 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii).
JUSTIFICATION Since this process/method will be approved by the NRC as part of the 10 CFR 50.90 submittal, it will meet the legal requirement of 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii). The basis for the change evaluation to be included in the 10 CFR 50.90 submittal will be that each individual change will be evaluated against the NFPA 805 change process (NFPA 805 performance goals / objectives /
criteria, defense-in-depth and safety margins evaluation), and providing this flexibility does not adversely impact the features required by Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 to ensure the NFPA 805 performance goals, performance objectives, and performance criteria are satisfied. By only allowing changes to NFPA 805 Chapter 4 conditional sections and the secondary codes and listings, the changes are bounded. All features required by Chapter 3 will continue to be required (unless specifically addressed separately from this process in an LAR). Secondary features may be changed based on an evaluation, using the required methods in a similar manner as is currently allowed under the Generic Letter 86-10 license condition, without prior NRC approval.
The method will ensure that the following requirements are met:
10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii) Requirement Method of Accomplishment (a) The required NFPA 805 performance The fire protection engineering analysis process includes goals, performance objectives, and the assessment of impact on NFPA 805 performance goals, performance criteria are satisfied. performance objectives, and performance criteria are satisfied. Impact will be assessed per risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section 3.2.
(b) Safety margins are maintained. Maintaining safety margins will be ensured using the risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section C.3.2.
(c) Fire protection defense-in-depth is Maintaining fire protection defense-in-depth will be ensured maintained. using the risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section C.3.2.
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FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses The LAR will contain the following information per Regulatory Guide 1.205 Section C.3.2.3:
RG 1.205 Guidance Method of Accomplishment (a) detailed description of the The process is not considered an alternative method. Deleted: The alternative method will be described in the LAR in detail, or a alternative risk-informed, Existing risk-informed, performance-based methods will be reference to NEI 04-02 will be performance-based method applied, but for a limited scope of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 provided once the process is added sections: to this document.
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional Formatted: Bullets and Numbering based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components mentioned in NFPA 805.
(b) description of how the method will Risk-informed, performance based fire protection engineering be applied, the aspects of the FPP to analyses will be allowed to be applied which it will applied, and the When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional circumstances under which it will be based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and applied For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components mentioned in NFPA 805 (c) acceptance criteria, including risk Acceptance criteria for changes will use the risk-informed, increase acceptance criteria, that the performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 licensee will apply when determining and Appendices I and J (and supplemented by RG 1.205 whether the results of an evaluation Section 3.2).
that uses this methodology meet the required NFPA 805 performance goals, performance objectives, and performance criteria (d) for PSA-based methodologies, an Technical adequacy of the PSA used in the risk-informed, explanation of how the PSA is of performance-based approach will be in accordance with RG sufficient technical adequacy for 1.205.
evaluation of the changes to which it will be applied (e) for PSA-based methodologies, a Peer review of the PSA used in the risk-informed, description of the peer review and performance-based approach will be in accordance with RG how the review findings have been 1.205.
addressed CONCLUSION This process/method will permit a risk-informed, performance-based approach to evaluate Fire Protection Program changes within the bounds of secondary codes and listings or changes that are conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4. Following NRC approval of a 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment, this process/methodology will permit licensees to evaluate fire protection features without prior NRC approval. Other issues not involving NFPA codes or listings or changes that are not conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4, would have to be submitted for NRC approval on a case by case basis.
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FAQ Number 06-0008 FAQ Revision 4a FAQ Title Alternative Method for Fire Protection Engineering Analyses If appropriate, provide proposed rewording of guidance for inclusion in the next Revision:
[See attached proposed revision to NEI 04-02]
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Section 2.2, page 7, 3rd paragraph:
Performance-Based Methods, § 50.48(c)(2)(vii) - The prohibition in Section 3.1 of NFPA 805 that does not permit the use of performance-based methods for the Chapter 3 fundamental fire protection program elements and minimum design criteria is not endorsed. The NRC takes this exception in order to provide licensees greater flexibility in meeting the fire protection program elements and minimum design requirements of Chapter 3 by the use of performance-based methods (including the use of risk-informed methods) described in the NFPA 805 standard. Licensees who wish to deviate from Chapter 3 requirements must submit a license amendment request for NRC approval.
Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
o When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and o For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
Section 2.3, page 9, 2nd paragraph:
Compliance with Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 may be demonstrated by showing that the specific requirements are met either directly or by the use of alternative methods and analytical approaches. Alternative methods and analytical approaches must be accepted by the NRC in a license amendment per 10 CFR 50.48(c)(4). Contrary to Section 3.1 of NFPA 805, performance-based methods may be used. (See 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii)). Note licensees contemplating applying for permission to use an alternative method or analytical approach could pursue a generic approval process with other utilities and/or NEI. See Section 2.4 of this document.
Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
Section 4.1.1, page 21, 1st paragraph:
For areas of the fire protection program that are not in compliance with NFPA 805, Chapter 3, the licensee may utilize the alternate performance-based methods as long as the method is FAQ 06-0008 rev. 4a - NEI 04-02 markup - Page 1
approved by the NRC in a License Amendment. The NRC has taken exception to NFPA 805, Section 3.1 (See 10 CFR 50.48.c (2)(vii)).
Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
Section 4.3.1, page 27, add new paragraph to this section at the end Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
Section 4.6.1, page 34 insert new paragraph before last sentence A sample LAR Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
Section 5.3.1, page 43
.Under the risk-informed, performance-based regulatory framework, Fire Protection Program changes will be made without prior NRC approval, except where required by:
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10 CFR 50.59, Other regulatory processes (i.e., Technical Specifications),
10CFR 50.48(c) (certain changes to Chapter 3 requirements or Nuclear Safety Changes that do not meet the acceptance criteria of NFPA Section 2.4.4.)
Changes that have been evaluated using performance-based methods other than the those Deleted: NFPA 805 Section 1.7 Equivalency states that Nothing in this acceptable to the AHJ standard is intended to prevent the use of systems, methods, or devices of Changes that have been evaluated using performance-based methods other than the equivalent or superior quality, strength, approaches in NFPA 805 (i.e., fire modeling and risk evaluation) fire resistance, effectiveness, durability and safety over those prescribed by this Except as noted, in general changes that have been previously approved by the NRC or that do standard. Technical documentation shall be submitted to the authority having not deviate from a specific NFPA 805 requirement related to systems, methods, or devices need jurisdiction to demonstrate equivalency.
not be submitted for AHJ approval Licensees can deviate from the NFPA standards referenced in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 without NRC approval if
allowed by the code of record, so long as the evaluated condition is in accordance Section 5.3.2, page 46, starting with 7th paragraph: with the terms of the code of record or if the code does not dictate the specific issue (e.g., adequacy of coverage of Additional consideration should be given to changes to Fundamental Program Elements and suppression and detection systems). In Minimum Design Requirements. 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii) allows licensees to use performance- addition to the performance-based methods outlined in NFPA 805, the NRC based methods to demonstrate compliance with NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements. However, will provide guidance on Analytical these alternate methods must be approved via the license amendment process (10 CFR methods and tools and methods acceptable for use in NFPA 805 50.48(c)(4)). applications in the Regulatory Guide for the adoption of 10 CFR 50.48. Therefore approval will be required for:¶ Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed Deleted: out NRC approval if allowed by the code of record, so long as the methods/processes. evaluated condition is in accordance with the terms of the code of record (e.g.,
Nothing in this standard is intended to Most changes to the Fundamental Program Elements and Minimum Design Requirements should restrict new technologies or alternate not require a License Amendment request, since they are evaluations that demonstrate arrangements, providing the level of safety prescribed by the standard is not compliance with requirements of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805. Licensees can deviate from the NFPA lowered. - Excerpt from 1985 edition of standards referenced in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 within the bounds discussed in Appendix L. NFPA 13) or if the code does not dictate the specific issue (e.g., adequacy of coverage of suppression and detection Examples of changes that would not require a License Amendment are: systems).
Deleted: <#>Changing the surveillance Replacing a fire rated component (e.g., penetration seal, door, wrap, etc.) with a different frequency of a fire protection feature or component/material having the same or greater fire rating. This does not require a license system based on NFPA standard as long as the underlying basis for the NFPA amendment because it meets the appropriate code. standard frequency is the same. This does not require a license amendment because Evaluating a blocked sprinkler head(s) for adequate coverage in the area. Chapter 3 of the surveillance frequency would satisfy that specified in the current edition of NFPA 805 and the referenced code do not dictate where a sprinkler system should be NFPA codes for providing reasonable assurance that the system or component is maintained in an operable condition.¶ FAQ 06-0008 rev. 4a - NEI 04-02 markup - Page 3
installed. Therefore the adequacy of the coverage should be evaluated with respect to the nuclear safety component(s) the sprinkler system is protecting.
Evaluating a broken/missing hanger on a fire suppression system. The acceptability of this deviation can be evaluated to show that the support of the system is still adequate with the broken/missing hanger and is therefore equivalent to a code compliant system as allowed by the code of record.
Conversely, examples of changes that would require a License Amendment are:
Deleted: <#>Revision of concentration Reducing the number of fire brigade members required on-site to below five. of an agent to a value less than that required by the respective code or Elimination of the Fire Prevention Program at the plant previously approved value.¶ NFPA 805 Section 4.1, states that, Deterministic requirements shall be deemed to satisfy the performance criteria and require no further engineering analysis. Chapter 4 of NFPA 805 provides the requirements for the baseline evaluation of the fire protection programs ability to achieve the performance criteria outlined in Section 1.5 of NFPA 805. The deemed to satisfy with out additional engineering analysis does not imply that a Plant Change Evaluation would not be performed. For example if a licensee was changing its current licensing basis in a fire area to a deterministic method, that change would require a Plant Change Evaluation. Note the Defense in Depth and Safety Margin portion of the Plant Change Evaluation would be satisfied by the fact that a deterministic option was chosen for compliance (See Sections 2.4.4.2 and 2.4.4.3 of NFPA 805).
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Appendix I, page I-2 (note: changes are shown to approved FAQ 06-0002, rather than rev. 1 of NEI 04-02).
FIRE PROTECTION PROGRAM FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENT / MINIMUM DESIGN REQUIREMENT CHANGE QUESTIONS Considering the proposed change, answer the following questions, including a reference to the applicable regulatory, licensing basis, or NFPA document(s), and a brief description of why the proposed change does or does not satisfy the referenced document(s).
- 3. Does the proposed change involve an NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirement as defined in [Insert appropriate document reference]? For those fire protection program changes that involve a Nuclear Safety Compliance Strategy requirement or a Radioactive Release requirement, ensure the effect of the change is evaluated in Appendix I, Sections 1.0 and 2.0, respectively.
- Yes - Proceed to Question 3.a.
- No - Document basis and proceed to Question 2
- a. Is the change editorial or trivial in nature? (See Attachment 1) o Yes Document basis and stop.
o No Proceed to Question 3.b.
- b. Does the change meet NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements or the previously approved alternative as defined in [Insert appropriate document reference]?
Previously approved alternatives include fire protection engineering analyses that are allowed based upon an approved license amendment described in NEI 04-02, Appendix L. (See Deleted: Changes that deviate from the Attachment 2) NFPA standards referenced in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 can be made without NRC o Yes Document conclusions, complete remaining sections. approval if allowed by the code of record (so long as the evaluated condition is in o No License Amendment Request must be processed for NRC approval. accordance with the terms of the code of Complete remaining sections. record) or if the code does not dictate the specific issue (e.g., adequacy of coverage of suppression and detection systems).
Ensure documentation for determination
_______________________________________________________________________ of acceptability is included and meets
___________________________________________________________________________ NEI 04-02 requirements for
___________________________________________________________________________ documentation.
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Appendix I - Attachment 2, page I-8 Refer to Appendix L for a process/method to be submitted in the transition LAR is to allow fire protection engineering analyses to address NFPA 805 Chapter 3 requirements:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components in NFPA 805.
Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative that would allow the use of this process without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes.
The following are examples of changes that do not require NRC approval: Deleted: In general, deviations from Chapter 3 must be submitted for NRC Replacing a fire rated component (e.g., fire rated penetration seal, fire door, fire rated approval per the Rule. However, licensees can deviate from the NFPA wrap, etc.) with a different component having the same or greater fire rating. standards referenced in Chapter 3 without NRC approval if allowed by the code of Use of fire hoses manufactured from a different material. record and the changed condition is in accordance with the terms of the code of Use of a valve assembly supplied by a different manufacturer for a suppression system. record (e.g., many earlier editions of NFPA Codes included the following Changes to Fire Brigade Training requirements that do not affect performance. statement: Nothing in this standard is intended to restrict new technologies or Evaluating a blocked sprinkler head(s) for adequate coverage in the area. Chapter 3 of alternate arrangements, providing the level of safety prescribed by the standard NFPA 805 and the referenced code do not dictate where a sprinkler system should be is not lowered. - From 1985 edition of installed. Therefore the adequacy of the coverage should be evaluated with respect to the NFPA 13) or if the code (including NFPA 805, Chapter 3) does not dictate the nuclear safety component(s) the sprinkler system is protecting. specific issue (e.g., suppression system or detection system coverage).
Deleted: <#>Changing the surveillance
frequency for a fire protection feature, as long as the new frequency is bounded by the NFPA code of record (and does not increase CDF or LERF), providing reasonable assurance that the system or component is maintained in an operable condition.¶ FAQ 06-0008 rev. 4a - NEI 04-02 markup - Page 6
Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses This Appendix is based upon Frequently Asked Question 06-0008, Revision [TBD], approved by the NRC in Closure memo dated [TBD], as documented in Regulatory Issues Summary (RIS) 2007-[TBD], dated [TBD] ADAMS Accession No. [TBD].
L.1 Background 10 CFR 50.48(c) requires licensees to submit 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment requests for any changes to Chapter 3 features of NFPA 805, unless they have been previously approved by the NRC. Under the standard license condition of GL 86-10, licensees are allowed to make certain types of changes without prior NRC approval as long as the changes do not adversely affect the plants ability to safely shutdown in the event of a fire.
To apply this process/method, licensees must send the proposed process/methods outlined in this Appendix to the NRC for approval. Then, they may use the approved processes/methods without prior approval for specific applications, as long as the application is within the bounds of NRC approval of the proposed methods/processes. Approval of a license amendment for the use of this process would constitute a previously approved alternative as discussed in NFPA 805 Section 3.1.
The licensees process/methodology must request an amendment under 10 CFR 50.90, using the flexibility available under 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii), Performance-Based Methods, to allow 10 CFR 50.48(c) licensees to establish a process that enables them to make changes to Chapter 3 of NFPA 805, as long as those changes only affect the referenced standards and listings, such as Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. or Factory Mutual listings. Under the proposal the licensee will commit to a process to evaluate deviations from secondary codes and listings required by NFPA 805 Chapter 3. The NFPA 805 change evaluation process will be used to ensure that nuclear safety performance goals, objectives and criteria are satisfied along with defense-in-depth and safety margins, as described in 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii).
Therefore, application of this process/method requires two steps. First, the process/methods and bounds of the process must be submitted to the NRC for approval. Second, following approval by the NRC, all plant specific changes made under this license amendment will undergo the same evaluation process as part of 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii). This second step, application of the process/method, will not require NRC approval.
This process/method would not apply to NFPA 805 Chapter 3 changes that do not relate to either NFPA codes or listings or changes that are not conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4.
These types of changes would continue to require individual 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment requests addressing the specific deviation.
L.2 Process Proposed addition to the post-NFPA transition fire protection standard license condition (Section C.3.1 of Regulatory Guide 1.205:
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Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses Licensees may perform change evaluations for fundamental fire protection program and design elements of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 that are conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements.
Licensees may also perform change evaluations for deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components mentioned in NFPA 805, without a 10 CFR 50.90 submittal, as long as the specific requirement for the feature is not included in NFPA 805 Chapter 3 itself, and the NFPA 805 change process is used.
The following table provides the sections of NFPA 805 that will utilize this process/method.
Sections that are addressed conditionally by Chapter 4 performance-based process are also identified for completeness.
Column Heading Definition:
Fire Protection Engineering Analysis Process Applicable: Sections of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 containing referenced codes and listings. Note the Applicability would only apply to the referenced codes and listings contained within these sections, and the process could not be used to change the NFPA 805 Chapter 3 specific requirements.
Chapter 4 Conditional Section: These NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements. The requested use of fire protection engineering evaluations for these sections are not limited to referenced codes and listings.
Fire Protection Engineering Analysis and Chapter 4 Not Applicable: These NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections do not have NFPA 805 Chapter 4 conditions and do not have referenced codes and listings. Therefore, the process/method associated with this Appendix is not applicable and would be outside the scope of the associated LAR.
Section Title FP Eng. Analysis Chapter 4 FP Eng.
Process Conditional Analysis Applicable Section Process and Chapter 4 Not Applicable 3.1 General X 3.2 Fire Protection Plan X 3.2.1 Intent X 3.2.2 Management Policy Direction X and Responsibility 3.2.3 Procedures X 3.3 Prevention X 3.3.1 Fire Prevention for Operational X Activities 3.3.2 Structural X 3.3.3 Interior Finishes X FAQ 06-0008 rev. 4a - NEI 04-02 markup - Page 8
Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses Section Title FP Eng. Analysis Chapter 4 FP Eng.
Process Conditional Analysis Applicable Section Process and Chapter 4 Not Applicable 3.3.4 Insulation Materials X 3.3.5 Electrical X 3.3.6 Roofs X 3.3.7 Bulk Flammable Gas Storage X 3.3.8 Bulk Storage of Flammable and X Combustible Liquids 3.3.9 Transformers X 3.3.10 Hot Pipes and Surfaces X 3.3.11 Electrical Equipment (Note 1) X 3.3.12 Reactor Coolant Pumps (Note 1) X 3.4 Industrial Fire Brigade 3.4.1 On-Site Fire Fighting Capability X 3.4.2 Pre-Fire Plans X 3.4.3 Training and Drills X 3.4.4 Fire Fighting Equipment X 3.4.5 Off-Site Fire Department X Interface 3.4.6 Communications X 3.5 Water Supply X 3.6 Standpipe and Hose Stations X 3.7 Fire Extinguishers X 3.8 Fire Alarm and Detection Systems 3.8.1 Fire Alarm X 3.8.2 Detection X 3.9 Automatic and Manual Water- X Based Fire Suppression Systems 3.10. Gaseous Fire Suppression X Systems 3.11 Passive Fire Protection Features X 3.11.1 Building Separation (Note 3) X 3.11.2 Fire Barriers X 3.11.3 Fire Barrier Penetrations X 3.11.4 Through Penetration Fire Stops X (Note 2)
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Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses Section Title FP Eng. Analysis Chapter 4 FP Eng.
Process Conditional Analysis Applicable Section Process and Chapter 4 Not Applicable 3.11.5 Electrical Raceway Fire Barrier X Systems (ERFBS)
Note 1 - Separate clarifications [TBD] will be used to clarify the applicability of engineering analyses to the requirements of Section 3.3.11 and 3.3.12 of NFPA 805.
Note 2 - Through penetration fire stops referenced in Section 3.11.4 of NFPA 805 are considered conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4 requirements, since they are integral to fire barriers (Section 3.11.2)
Note 3 - Section 3.11.1 of NFPA 805 contains an exception for performance-based analysis.
The process in this FAQ is not applicable.
L.3 Example Section 3.6.1 of NFPA 805 requires a hose system to be installed per NFPA 14. Using this process/method, a hose system must be available and have access to all power block buildings, and must also be a Class III standpipe, but may deviate from other specific requirements of NFPA 14. These deviations must not contradict other text in Chapter 3 of NFPA 805. The NFPA 805 change evaluation process will be used to ensure that nuclear safety performance goals, objectives and criteria are satisfied along with defense-in-depth and safety margins, as described in 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii).
L.4 Justification Since this process/method will be approved by the NRC as part of the 10 CFR 50.90 submittal, it will meet the legal requirement of 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii). The basis for the change evaluation to be included in the 10 CFR 50.90 submittal will be that each individual change will be evaluated against the NFPA 805 change process (NFPA 805 performance goals / objectives
/criteria, defense-in-depth and safety margins evaluation), and providing this flexibility does not adversely impact the features required by Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 to ensure the NFPA 805 performance goals, performance objectives, and performance criteria are satisfied. By only allowing changes to the secondary codes and listings, the changes are bounded. All features required by Chapter 3 will continue to be required (unless specifically addressed separately from this process in an LAR). Secondary features may be changed based on an evaluation, using the required methods in a similar manner that was previously allowed under the Generic Letter 86-10 license condition, without prior NRC approval.
The method will ensure that the following requirements are met:
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Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses 10 CFR 50.48(c)(2)(vii) Requirement Method of Accomplishment (a) The required NFPA 805 performance The fire protection engineering analysis process includes goals, performance objectives, and the assessment of impact on NFPA 805 performance goals, performance criteria are satisfied. performance objectives, and performance criteria are satisfied. Impact will be assessed per risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section 3.2.
(b) Safety margins are maintained. Maintaining safety margins will be ensured using the risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section C.3.2.
(c) Fire protection defense-in-depth is Maintaining fire protection defense-in-depth will be ensured maintained. using the risk-informed, performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 and Appendices I and J and supplemented by RG 1.205 Section C.3.2.
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Appendix L - Alternative Method for Engineering Analyses The LAR will contain the following information per Regulatory Guide 1.205 Section C.3.2.3:
RG 1.205 Guidance Method of Accomplishment (a) detailed description of the The process is not considered an alternative method.
alternative risk-informed, Existing risk-informed, performance-based methods will be performance-based method applied, but for a limited scope of NFPA 805 Chapter 3 sections:
When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated Formatted: table bullets components mentioned in NFPA 805.
(b) description of how the method will Risk-informed, performance based fire protection engineering be applied, the aspects of the FPP to analyses will be allowed to be applied:
which it will applied, and the When the Chapter 3 requirements are conditional based Formatted: Bullets and Numbering circumstances under which it will be upon NFPA 805 Chapter 4; and applied For deviations from the NFPA codes and listings for rated components mentioned in NFPA 805.
(c) acceptance criteria, including risk Acceptance criteria for changes will use the risk-informed, increase acceptance criteria, that the performance-based change process in NEI 04-02 Chapter 5 licensee will apply when determining and Appendices I and J (and supplemented by RG 1.205 whether the results of an evaluation Section 3.2).
that uses this methodology meet the required NFPA 805 performance goals, performance objectives, and performance criteria (d) for PSA-based methodologies, an Technical adequacy of the PSA used in the risk-informed, explanation of how the PSA is of performance-based approach will be in accordance with RG sufficient technical adequacy for 1.205.
evaluation of the changes to which it will be applied (e) for PSA-based methodologies, a Peer review of the PSA used in the risk-informed, description of the peer review and performance-based approach will be in accordance with RG how the review findings have been 1.205.
addressed L.5 Conclusion This process/method will permit a risk-informed, performance-based approach to evaluate Fire Protection Program changes within the bounds of secondary codes and listings or changes that are conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4. Following NRC approval of a 10 CFR 50.90 license amendment, this process/methodology will permit licensees to evaluate fire protection features without prior NRC approval. Other issues, not involving NFPA codes or listings or changes that are not conditional based on NFPA 805 Chapter 4, would have to be submitted for NRC approval on a case by case basis.
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- Brandon, Please distribute to the Task Force as you see fit.
- Thanks, Chuck Charles Moulton Fire Protection Engineer NRR/DRA/AFPB Phone: 415-2751 Mailstop: O11A11
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Fire Protection Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation
SUBJECT:
SUMMARY
OF MARCH 22, 2007, CATEGORY 2 MEETING ON FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION PROCESS REGARDING NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD 805 On March 22, 2007, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a meeting with stakeholders and the public to discuss frequently asked questions (FAQs) at plants that are adopting National Fire Protection Association Standard 805. Licensees introduced and discussed revised versions of two FAQs at this meeting and provided a written response to previous NRC staff comments regarding one FAQ. The staff presented and discussed written responses to four FAQs. Licensees and NRC staff also discussed the remaining open FAQs.
The participants determined that both industry stakeholders and the NRC staff needed to continue to work on the remaining open FAQs.
All participants agreed that the next monthly meeting should occur on April 17, 2007, via teleconferencing, and that the May meeting should occur on May 17, at Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) headquarters. The April meeting was subsequently rescheduled to April 26, to accommodate participants schedules.
The revised FAQs and written responses introduced at the meeting are available in the Agencywide Documents Access and Management System. The accession numbers for the revised FAQs are ML070800007 and ML070850610. The response to previous comments is available at ML070850658. The accession numbers for the NRC staff responses are ML070660071, ML070640544, ML070640555, and ML070640562. The NEI 805 Task Force FAQ Log, a meeting handout, is available at ML070800236.
A list of meeting attendees is enclosed with this memorandum.
Enclosure:
As stated CONTACT: Charles Moulton, NRR/DRA 301-415-2751
MEMORANDUM TO: Sunil D. Weerakkody, Branch Chief Fire Protection Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM: Charles Moulton, Fire Protection Engineer Fire Protection Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation
SUBJECT:
SUMMARY
OF MARCH 22, 2007, CATEGORY 2 MEETING ON FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION PROCESS REGARDING NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD 805 On March 22, 2007, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a meeting with stakeholders and the public to discuss frequently asked questions (FAQs) at plants that are adopting National Fire Protection Association Standard 805. Licensees introduced and discussed revised versions of two FAQs at this meeting and provided a written response to previous NRC staff comments regarding one FAQ. The staff presented and discussed written responses to four FAQs. Licensees and NRC staff also discussed the remaining open FAQs.
The participants determined that both industry stakeholders and the NRC staff needed to continue to work on the remaining open FAQs.
All participants agreed that the next monthly meeting should occur on April 17, 2007, via teleconferencing, and that the May meeting should occur on May 17, at Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) headquarters. The April meeting was subsequently rescheduled to April 26, to accommodate participants schedules.
The revised FAQs and written responses introduced at the meeting are available in the Agencywide Documents Access and Management System. The accession numbers for the revised FAQs are ML070800007 and ML070850610. The response to previous comments is available at ML070850658. The accession numbers for the NRC staff responses are ML070660071, ML070640544, ML070640555, and ML070640562. The NEI 805 Task Force FAQ Log, a meeting handout, is available at ML070800236.
A list of meeting attendees is enclosed with this memorandum.
Enclosure:
As stated CONTACT: Charles Moulton, NRR/DRA 301-415-2751 DISTRIBUTION: DRA R/F TDinh DFrumkin PLain SWeerakkody CMoulton AKlein RGallucci PBarbadoro ADAMS Accession #: ML071090164 NRC-001 OFFICE NRR/DRA NRR/DRA NAME CMoulton SWeerakoddy DATE 4/ 17 /07 4/ 17 /07 OFFICIAL RECORD COPY
NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD 805 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION PROCESS LIST OF ATTENDEES March 22, 2007 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Staff A. Klein C. Moulton D. Frumkin G. MacDonald*
J. Hyslop P. Fillion*
P. Lain R. Gallucci T. Dinh OTHER A. Afzali (PG&E)
A. Holder (Progress)
A. Ratchford (Kleinsorg Group)
B. Jamar (NEI)
C. Worrell (Westinghouse)
D. Miskiewicz (Progress)
E. Kleinsorg (Kleinsorg Group)
F. dePeralta-Meister (Tri-en Corp)
G. Cooper (Constellation)
J. Ertman (Progress)
J. Lattner (Southern Nuclear)
J. Masterlark (NMC)
J. Riley (NEI)
K. Heffner (Progress)*
K. Zee (ERIN)
M. Yungbluth (AmerenUE)
N. Hall (Constellation)
P. Ouellette (EPM)
R. Bertucio (Scientech)
S. Nowlen (SNL)*
T. Jutras (EPM)
T. Shudak (NPPD)
V. Rubano (FPL)
- participated via phone ENCLOSURE
- Brandon, Attached are NRC handouts for the telecon on Thursday.
Included are comments on FAQs and a sample from the RIS, as well as lists of the ADAMS numbers for FAQ s and FAQ related documents.
There may be additional comments on FAQ 12 ready in time for the call.
Please distribute to the 805 Task Force.
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Issue 2: Issue Summary A plant transitioning to the 10 CFR 50.48(c) fire protection licensing basis noted that 10 CFR 50.48(c) appears to require prior NRC approval of all fire protection plant and program changes governed by NFPA 805, Chapter 3. The licensee noted that this appears to be more restrictive than the plants current deterministic requirements which permit fire protection plant and program changes without prior NRC approval when those changes are acceptable based on the standard license condition provided in Generic Letter 86-10, Implementation of Fire Protection Requirements. The licensee requested staff clarifications with respect to (a) deviations from Chapter 3 deterministic requirements which are relied upon meet requirements in Chapter 4, and (b) licensees ability to create processes address lower tier guidance such NFPA and UL in relation to the Chapter 3 deterministic requirements.
Resolution of Issues With respect to Item (a) above, NRC staff concluded that changes to some features of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 do not need NRC prior approval, There are various sections of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 that are only required to meet the performance or deterministic requirements of Chapter 4 of NFPA 805. Specifically NFPA 805 Sections 3.8.2, 3.9 through 3.11, excluding section 3.11.1. R.G. 1.205 includes a proposed license condition for making changes to NFPA 805, Chapter 4 requirements. The resolution of this issue is that since the Chapter 3 features are only required due to these features being needed for Chapter 4, these features may be modified without prior NRC approval when the change process, which applies to Chapter 4, is applied to the Chapter 3 changes.
With respect to Item (b) above, the NRC staff concluded that it is acceptable to, following the approval of a license amendment on the subject, allow the licensees to make changes to the requirements of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 that involve independent listing laboratory certifications and associated NFPA standards. There are various sections of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 that include references to independent laboratory listings (such as Underwriters Laboratories, Inc.) and to associated NFPA standards. Licensees may submit a license amendment proposing a process by which they may make changes to the listings and NFPA standards described in Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 without prior NRC approval. The process must include the bounds of the application of the process, specifically that it only applies to listings and other NFPA standards, and also an approach meeting 10 CFR 50.48(c).2.vii, (A), (B) and (C). Changes to other portions of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 would continue to require individual 50.90 amendments addressing the specific deviation.
FAQ 06-0008, Revision X, submitted to the NRC on X/XX/2007, (ADAMS accession number ML07XXXXXXX) is consistent with these resolutions and the current NRC staff positions, which were adopted in RG 1.205.
NRC Response to FAQ 06-0008, Revision 3 [DXF] {4/2/2007}
Dans comments on Rev 3:
- Break down section 3.8 (similar to the way they itemized 3.11), since my reading of the chapter 4 exclusion to section 3.8 only applies to 3.8.2. I believe that the other sections of 3.8 fall under the NFPA code exclusion.
- 3.11.1 is not subject to the Chapter 4 exclusion.
- In the table on page 6, it states at the top of the first column 50.48(c) requirement, this should be 50.48(c).2.vii requirement.
- In the 1.205 table (on page 7), the statement, "once the process is added . . ." may be problematic. I don't see this as a show stopper, but the NRC staff needs to look into the implications of this not being complete. There is a cart before the horse issue here; which comes first: the RIS or the updated 04-02/RG 1.205? My thought is that we need to have the process attached to the FAQ so we can say that it is okay in the RIS. Process wise, you may not be able to have open ended statements in this type of document.
o Suggestion: I think the answer to this question on 1.205 is that an alternative method will not be used. c.2.vii does not require an alternative method. So the open ended statement could be replaced with a statement like, "an alternative method is not proposed, the existing performance-based methods will be applied, but will be applied in a very limited fashion to (nfpa codes and listings)." Do you think that this will fly?
- The added tables were looked at pretty closely during an older revision, so assuming nothing has changed there, they should be okay.
NRC Response to FAQ 06-0008, Revision 4 [CEM, DXF] {4/26/2007}
NEI Proposed Wording (Page 15, 1st paragraph)
This Appendix is based upon Frequently Asked Question 06-0008, Revision [TBD],
approved by the NRC in Closure memo dated [TBD], as documented in Regulatory Issues Summary (RIS) 2007-[TBD], dated [TBD] ADAMS Accession No. [TBD].
Staff Response It is improper to say that anything is approved by a closure memo. A planned Regulatory Issue Summary will document the agency-wide endorsement.
Replace the above NEI proposal with the following.
Staff Proposed Wording PLACEHOLDER FOR A DESCRIPTION OF NRC POSITION ON THIS FAQ.
NRC Response to FAQ 06-0012, Revision 2 [SDW & PMQ] {4/26/2007}
NEI Proposed Wording (page 8 of 13, near bottom)
Operator manual actions to address spurious actuations in the credited safe shutdown success path are allowed, as long as the spurious actuation does not disable the credited function and the credited function does not become disabled during the time it takes to perform the operator manual action. See Figures B-7 and B-8 Staff Response The examples noted in the figures would meet III.G.2 requirements. However, the verbal description leaves open the possibility of examples which would not meet III.G.2 requirements.Section III.G.2 states:
where cables or equipment, including associated non-safety circuits that could prevent operation or cause maloperation due to hot shorts, open circuits, or shorts to ground, of redundant trains of systems necessary to achieve and maintain hot shutdown conditions are located within the same fire area outside of primary containment, one of the following means of ensuring that one of the redundant trains is free of fire damage shall be provided By the NEI verbiage, components directly in a success path would be allowed to maloperate, so long as the credited function is not disabled. This does not meet the prevent operation or cause maloperation requirement of III.G.2 as, for example, a spurious closure of a flowpath valve would prevent operation yet meet the verbiage. The two examples were examples of flow diversions, with the credited flowpath unaffected.
For example, in figure B-8, if one of the MOVs in the credited flowpath maloperated and closed, and could be manually reopened, it could, by analysis, meet the does not disable the credited function and the credited function does not become disabled during the time it takes to perform the operator manual action criterion. It would not meet III.G.2 as it would prevent operation or cause maloperation of the required flowpath (timing is not considered).
Staff Proposed Wording (Red - deletions, Blue - additions)
Operator manual actions to address spurious actuations in the that affect the credited safe shutdown success path are allowed, as long as the spurious actuation does not disable the is not directly in the protected train of the credited function (e.g., the main flowpath, as opposed to a diversionary flowpath) and the credited function does not become disabled during the time it takes to perform the operator manual action. See Figures B-7 and B-8 Additional Staff Comment
- Delete paragraphs that paraphrase RIS 2006-10 from the proposed edits to NEI 04-02 sections.
NRC Response to FAQ 06-0024 [DHO] {4/26/2007}
Clarification of Required Space Around Electrical Equipment and Definition of Energized Electrical Equipment, NFPA 805 Section 3.3.11 Summary of issue Clarification of NFPA-805, Standard for Fire Protection for Light Water Reactor Electric Generating Plants (2001 Edition), Chapter 3, Section 3.3.11 Electrical Equipment, "Adequate clearance, free of combustible material, shall be maintained around energized electrical equipment."
Specifically, clarify what is "adequate clearance", and "energized electrical equipment" to be used during reviews associated with Chapter 3 transition.
Proposed Resolution of FAQ and basis for the proposal:
This FAQ asks to clarify the definition of, "Adequate clearance", and "energized electrical equipment", where used in Chapter 3. There is no existing fire protection regulatory guidance to readily lend these definitions. Therefore, adequate clearance would be defined as 3'-0" based on similar guidance found in (OSHA) 29CFR1910.303, Subpart S, Electrical. In the case where a plant has existing administration controls for combustible materials "adequate" would be as defined therein (the procedure having been review, approved and based on some degree of previous evaluation, analysis or defined engineering judgment).
Likewise, "Energized Electrical Equipment", would be defined for the purposes of Chapter 3 transition, to be that equipment identified in Bin 15 of the Fire PRA (ref.:
NUREG 6850, Fire PRA Methodology for Nuclear Power Facilities).
NEI proposed wording Where used in Chapter 3, the term "Adequate Clearance" is defined as, 3'-0" based on similar guidance found in (OSHA) 29CFR1910.303, Subpart S, Electrical.
Where used in Chapter 3, the term "Energized Electrical Equipment", is defined as, equipment identified in Bin 15 of the Fire PRA (ref.: NUREG/CR-6850, Fire PRA Methodology for Nuclear Power Facilities).
Staff Response The licensee proposal is defining the term Adequate Clearance based on OSHA guidelines.
These guidelines apply to workers health and safety; they do not apply to fire hazards at nuclear power plants. During the 1/18/2007 meeting, the licensee agreed that OSHA guidelines were not relevant and also agreed to resubmit this FAQ.
The licensee proposal is defining the term "Energized Electrical Equipment" as equipment identified in Bin 15 of the Fire PRA. What is the basis for using only Bin 15 to define the term "Energized Electrical Equipment"?
NRC Response to FAQ 06-0026 [DHO] {4/26/2007}
Clarification of "conform with the applicable NFPA standards" in regard to fire fighting equipment, NFPA 805 Section 3.4.4 Summary of issue Clarification of NFPA-805, Standard for Fire Protection for Light Water Reactor Electric Generating Plants (2001 Edition), Chapter 3, Section 3.4.4, Fire Fighting Equipment, "Protective clothing, respiratory protective equipment, radiation monitoring equipment, personal dosimeters, and fire suppression equipment such as hoses, nozzles, fire extinguishers, and other needed equipment shall be provided for the industrial fire brigade. This equipment shall conform with the applicable NFPA standards."
Specifically, clarify that the intent of "conform with the applicable NFPA standards", is for specification and procurement aspects of the equipment Proposed Resolution of FAQ and basis for the proposal This FAQ asks to clarify that the intent of "conform with the applicable NFPA standards",
as they relate to fire brigade equipment. Applicable NFPA standards are addressed in FAQ #06-0020. Because the NFPA standards related to fire brigade equipment have evolved greatly beyond the CLB for plants, and in light of the fact that nuclear power plant fire fighting equipment is exposed to limited actual field use, it is not reasonable to require some of the maintenance activities and periodicities that are applied to equipment used by municipal fire departments and therefore contained in some NFPA standards. Rather, the industry recognizes and agrees that equipment should be purchased to NFPA standards, in force at the time of purchase. Along with this reasonable care and maintenance of equipment should be determined and implemented based on the actual level of field usage (ref. guidance found in IN-200012, Potential Degradation of Firefighter Primary Protective Garments).
NEI proposed wording Where used in section 3.4.4, the term, "conform with the applicable NFPA standards", is be limited to the specification and procurement of firefighting equipment, and those NFPA standards in effect at the time of purchase for that equipment, care and maintenance will be determined by the licensee based on equipment condition and performance.
Staff Response The staff does not agree with the proposal that: conform with the applicable NFPA standards be limited to specification and procurement, and that care and maintenance be determined by the licensee based on equipment condition and performance.
Deviations from these NFPA standards should use the Fire Protection Engineering Analysis process/method outlined in the resolution of FAQ 06-0008.
Consequently, the staff suggests that FAQ # 06-0026 be withdrawn.
Chuck, I've attached an updated FAQ Log per your request.
Task Force
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Revision Submitter Reviewer Status Approval FAQ # Name Summary Actions and Notes Priority Licensee Submitted Working Plant NRC NEI TF NRC Submittal Date Tentative Final Contact 06-0001 0 0 Alternate method for Add in clarification that fire affected NRC rejected the statements regarding SER Engineering train manual actions are 'allowed' and approval without Exemptions Harris Closed Closed Evaluations therefore do not require evaluation. Submitted Closed Nuclear Ertman Closed 4/25/2006 ML06348016 ML06348016 Tentatively approved. to NRC Plant 9 9 Superceded by FAQ 06-0012.
06-0002 1c 1c NEI 04-02 Section Change Figure 5-1, text, and NRC agreed in principle, however wanted 5.3.3 and App. I, Appendix I to ask the Chapter 4 wording clarified to "make clear the distinction Order of Questions questions before Chapter 3 questions. between Chapter 3 requirements that are for Change Analysis subject to Chapter 4 evaluations versus the Screening Chapter 3 requirement that are independent of Chapter 4" added clarification to 'boxes' at end of Questions 1 and 2 in Change Analysis Form NRC added 'included required recovery actions to text of 5.3.3 and added 'including Human actions' to Question 4.e of Change Analysis Form Harris Submited to 4/25/2006 Closed Nuclear Ertman Gallucci Closed 10/26/2006 Closed NRC 10/26/2006 Task Force agrees to first request. Task force is Plant evaluating the addition of NRC rejected the statements regarding SER approval without Exemptions Committed to revise based on RIS 2006-10 and NRC Public Meeting June 9, 2006. See RIS 2006-12 'human actions' to the risk screening questions. - tentatively approved - will resubmit 10/26/06 06-0003 1b 1b Change Analysis Change 'greater than minimal' to Harris Submited to 4/25/2006 Screening 'potentially greater than minimal' Closed Nuclear Jeff Ertman Gallucci Closed 10/26/2006 Closed NRC 10/26/2006 Plant 06-0004 0 1 Clarify NFPA 805 How fire protection systems and Note NRC was using NEI 04-02 Revision 2H Chapter 4 and 3 features transition is highly dependent figures and not figures in FAQ 06-0004 TF to relationship for on how they are 'required' to meet the resubmit
'required' FP nuclear safety criteria of Chapter 4. NRC to re-review in appropriate context & Harris June 2007 Comments systems/features provide status on 10/26/06 M Nuclear Jeff Ertman Frumkin in provided on 5/12/2006 Plant conjunction R0 Received NRC comments 11/29/06. Resubmitted w/ B.3 to NRC and returned with comments. Currently tables under TF review.
06-0005 1 1 Guidance on FPP- NEI 04-02 does not provide guidance FAQ has been revised.
related changes what should be considered a FPP-related change or not. Since failure to Resubmit to NRC 11/30/06 - waiting for NRC obtain NRC pre-approval for using risk response as of April 07 reductions from a non-FPP related Harris TF waiting change would be contrary to the Plan to 8/24/2006 H Nuclear Ertman Frumkin for NRC guidance in RG 1.205, additional comment 11/30/2006 Plant comments guidance should be provided to clarify what is considered a FPP-related change once NFPA-805 is implemented.
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06-0006 2 2 High-low pressure Definition of High-Low Pressure Received NRC comments on R1, R2 interface definition interface is not consistent between Resubmit 12/19/06 - Definition change per NRC Draft and NEI 00-01/NFPA NFPA 805 and NEI 00-01. Need to request. Closure process has begun. Draft 8/24/2006 M Duke Barrett Dinh closure 1/18/2007 805 discrepancies provide clarification. closure letter was commented on by TF. NRC 12/19/2006 letter issued accepted TF clarification.
06-0007 2 2 NFPA 805 Chapter 3 Need clarification on when NFPA 600 FAQ to be revised to mark up NEI 04-02 to show Requirements for Fire or NFPA 1500 apply. Also clarify if the addition of an appendix for NFPA 805 Brigades requiements apply to interior clarifications. NRC R2 comments by May 07 Waiting for Harris Comments structural fire fighting brigade. NRC M Nuclear Holder Lain provided on 2/15/2007 comments Plant R1 on R2 06-0008 4a 4a Alternate method for Many Generic Letter 86-10 evaluations Presented 9/28/06 Engineering exist at facilities today. Transition of Evaluations these existing evaluations is essential Comments received from NRC on 11/29/06.
for the success of the Pilot Plants. In Clarification call scheduled. Resubmit to NRC by R5 planned - Comments 2/15/2007 addition the use of engineering 02/07 R4a comments received and will H1 NEI Ratchford Frumkin submit by provided on 3/20/2007 evaluations for Chapter 3 issues post incorporate NRC recommendations. R5 by early early May R4a 3/30/2007 transition needs to be clarified. May.
06-0009 NEI 04-02 Typo Editorial changes to NEI 04-02 Projected submittal 2Q/07 L NEI Kleinsorg Corrections 06-0010 Incorporate Based on changes to Regulatory Projected submittal 3Q 2007 Regulatory Guide Guide 1.205, NEI 04-02 needs to 1.205 Baseline reflect the baseline risk L NEI Ertman concept into NEI 04-02 06-0011 1b 1b Clarify III.G.3 Alternative Shutdown is not Approved by Task Force Reviewers. Submitted Compliance Transition specifically addressed in NFPA 805. to NRC 9/28/06. Under NRC review.
TF waiting Comments for NRC Comments received from NRC on 11/29/06. H2 NEI Jutras Frumkin provided on 2/15/2007 comments Need time for TF review. Rewrite R0 on R1b w/consideration for NRC comment #2 -
Resubmit Feb. '07. Possible closure by May 06-0012 2b 2b Clarify Manual Action Some manual actions are either Submitted to NRC 9/28/06. Resubmit 10/26/06 Transition in allowed by the current regulation or as combined with FAQ 06-0001 Appendix B have been Comments 9/28/2006 Comments received from NRC on 11/30/06. With H3 NEI Kleinsorg Barbadaro R3 planned provided on 10/26/2006 TF for review. Revision by May '07. NRC R2b 3/22/07 comments on R2b warrant R3. Will have by May 07 06-0013 Clarify Chapter 4 Will be presented at 2006 HNP Pilot meeting.
Methodology Duke to submit end of Second Quarter 2007 Transition Process L NEI Bases on Pilot Plant Results 06-0014 0 Cumulative Risk Regulatory Guide 1.205 requires With FPRA TF for comment - 12/14/06 tracking of changes to assess FPRA TF cumulative risk. NEI 04-02 does not L NEI Miskiewicz has action provide guidance on this issue Page2 of 6
06-0015 0 Guidance on not-red Process for determining if non- Sent to Task Force for review 11/30/06 determination compliances found during the With FPRA TF for review- 12/14/06 transition process are 'not red' needs Ken Heffner to provide regulatory input to this FPRA TF to be simplified. FAQ by 12/14/06 L NEI Afzali has action Amir Afzali to provide PRA screening criteria for
'not red' determination by 12/14/06 06-0016 1 1 Ignition Source Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Presented at November 2006 pilot meeting counting guidance for Source counting guidance for Submitted to Task Force 11/30/06.
Electrical Cabinets Electrical Cabinets in NUREG/CR- Comments from Task Force to initiator by 6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 application. Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC. R1 Submitted Potential disagreement on the examples H HNP Miskiewicz Gallucci accepted. 12/19/2006 R1 to NRC provided in the FAQ were discussed by Ray Closed Gallucci of the NRC. Kiang Zee provided feedback that the examples were intended to be taken collectively and were intended to be drawn to scale.
06-0017 0 0c Ignition Source Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Presented at November 2006 pilot meeting counting guidance for Source counting guidance for High Submitted to Task Force 11/30/06.
FPRA TF will High Energy Arcing Energy Arcing Faults (HEAF) in Comments from Task Force to initiator by split the Faults (HEAF) NUREG/CR-6850, supporting NFPA- 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 FAQ into 805 Fire PRA application. Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC.
H HNP Miskiewicz Gallucci two items 12/19/2006 Preliminary comments indicated a recommending and splitting of HEAFs into a low voltage and high resubmit in voltage bins. In addition, a new frequency is early May being considered for bus ducts.
06-0018 1 1 Ignition Source Clarification/enhancement of Ignition Presented at November 2006 pilot meeting counting guidance for Source counting guidance for Main Submitted to Task Force 11/30/06.
Main Control Board Control Board (MCB) in NUREG/CR- Comments from Task Force to initiator by R1 (MCB) 6850, supporting NFPA-805 Fire PRA 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 Submitted H HNP Miskiewicz Gallucci accepted. 12/19/2006 application Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC. R1 to NRC Closed Preliminary comments indicated more focus on counting just horseshoe cabinets as MCBs.
06-0019 0 0c Define power block Define where used in Chapter 3, Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 and plant power block and plant are Comments from Task Force to initiator by intended to mean areas in which a 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 fire could jeopardize the ability to Comments to be provided by NRC prior to Feb.
meet the performance criteria 2007 meeting. TF will submit new described in section 1.5. revision by May 2007 TF revising 3.3.1.2 Control of Combustible Comments FAQ 19 R0c -
Materials H HNP Holder Dinh provided on 12/19/2006 submit by (1)Wood used within the power block R0 May 07 shall be listed pressure-impregnated or coated with a listed fire-retardant application.
Exception: Cribbing timbers 6 in. by 6 in. (15.2 cm by 15.2 cm) or larger shall not be required to be fire-retardant treated.
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06-0020 0 0c Definition of (6) Controls on use and storage of Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 applicable flammable gases shall be in TF revising Comments accordance with applicable NFPA FAQ 20 R0c -
H HNP Holder Dinh provided on 12/19/2006 standards. submit by R0 May 07 06-0021 0 1a Clarify that air drops 3.3.5.2 - Only metal tray and metal Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 are acceptable. conduits shall be used for electrical raceways. Thin wall metallic tubing TF shall not be used for power, reviewing instrumentation, or control cables. NRC Comments Flexible metallic conduits shall only be comments LL HNP Holder Dinh provided on 12/19/2006 used in short lengths to connect on R0, R1 R0 components. planned -
submit by HNP as well as other plants have May 07 exposed cable drops ~ 3 in length.
06-0022 0 0a Identify a list of 3.3.5.3 - Electric cable construction Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 typical flame shall comply with a flame propagation Comments from Task Force to initiator by propagation tests test as acceptable to the AHJ. 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 TF waiting Plan to which are considered Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC. M ANO Puckett Moulton for NRC 12/19/2006 comment acceptable. Additional info on applicability of test requested comments by NRC.
06-0023 0 0 Grant exception for 3.3.8 Bulk Storage of Flammable and Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 Diesel Generator Day Combustible Liquids - Bulk storage of Tanks located within flammable and combustible liquids Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 Diesel Generator shall not be permitted inside NRC questioned if issue warranted a FAQ since it TF Buildings. structures containing systems, is part of plant systems reviewing Proposed equipment, or components important LL HNP Holder Lain withdraw - 12/19/2006 withdraw to nuclear safety. As a minimum, decide by storage and use shall comply with May 07 NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code.
06-0024 0 0 Define what 3.3.11 Electrical Equipment - Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 adequate clearance Adequate clearance, free of is. combustible material, shall be Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 TF maintained around energized electrical Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC. reviewing Comments equipment. M HNP Holder Oudinot NRC provided on 12/19/2006 comments R0 Need to provide a clearer definition of on R0
'adequate clearance'. Could be based on OSHA 3ft requirement.
06-0025 0 1b Define minimum 3.4 Industrial Fire Brigade - 3.4.2.1 - Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 R1b updated acceptable pre-plan The plans shall detail the fire area 4/19 scope. configuration and fire hazards to be encountered in the fire area, along with any nuclear safety components and fire protection systems and R1 planned - Comments 12/19/2006 features that are present. H HNP Holder Barbadaro submit by provided on RESUBMIT May 07 R0 March 2007 Suggest define more clearly what the minimum acceptable pre-plan scope is. Consider use of existing guidance.
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06-0026 0 0 Clarify NFPA code 3.4.4 Fire-Fighting Equipment - Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 requirements for gear Protective clothing, respiratory Comments from Task Force to initiator by maintenance protective equipment, radiation 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 monitoring equipment, personal Preliminary verbal comments provided by NRC.
dosimeters, and fire suppression equipment such as hoses, nozzles, fire extinguishers, and other needed TF equipment shall be provided for the reviewing Proposed industrial fire brigade. This equipment M HNP Holder Oudinot withdraw - 12/19/2006 withdraw shall conform with the applicable decide by NFPA standards. May 07 Clarify that intent is for design and purchase of equipment. NFPA code requirements for gear maintenance is not applicable.
06-0027 0a Clarify the where 3.7 Fire Extinguishers - Where To TF by Feb 07 provided statement. provided, fire extinguishers of the Not discussed on 1/18/07 appropriate number, size, and type shall be provided in accordance with NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers. Extinguishers shall be permitted to be positioned outside of M ANO Puckett fire areas due to radiological conditions.
Part of NFPA 10 is placement / travel distances for extinguishers. The
'where provided' statement needs clarification.
06-0028 0 1a Clarify intent of 3.3.1.1 General Fire Prevention Presented to Task Force 11/30/06 familiarization with Activities - (1) Training on fire safety Comments from Task Force to initiator by plant fire prevention information for all employees and 12/14/06 Submitted to NRC 12/19/06 procedures, fire contractors including, as a minimum, Not discussed on 1/18/07 reporting, and plant familiarization with plant fire R1 planned - Comments emergency alarms prevention procedures, fire reporting, M HNP Alan Holder Oudinot submit by provided on 12/19/2006 regarding scope of or and plant emergency alarms May 07 R0 depth of the training.
Clarify the intent of 'familiarization'.
06-0029 0a Clarify zone of FDT spreadsheets are used to provide Submitted to the task force: 12/19/06 influence for NUREG a zone of influence. Discuss at January 24, 2007 FPRA meeting 6850 Task 8. Not discussed on 1/18/07 M HNP Thompson Risk of recovery 07-0030 M actions 0
Miscellaneous ignition frequency binning issues. Questions arise during TF 07-0031 Misc Binning Issues ignition frequency counting, such as: Draft to NEI TF for April 2007. M HNP Miskiewicz reviewing MOV motors, Hydraulic actuators for valves, Transformers Page5 of 6
10CFR 50.48(a) and Clarify that satisfying 10 cfr 50.48(c) 07-0032 Draft to NEI TF for May 2007. M HNP Holder GDC 3 clarification will satisfy 10 CFR50.48(a) and GDC3 Review of Existing Engineering Discuss how EEEE will be reviewed 07-0033 Draft to NEI TF for May 2007. M HNP Holder Equivalency and summarized for Evaluations 0
Clarification of guidance for deterining Determination of non- TF 07-0034 if an electrical cabinet can be Draft to NEI TF for May 2007. M HNP Miskiewicz vented Cabinets reviewing dispositioned as non-vented Page6 of 6