ML052270051
| ML052270051 | |
| Person / Time | |
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| Site: | Millstone  |
| Issue date: | 04/17/2005 |
| From: | NRC Region 1 |
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| 41607, FOIA/PA-2005-0207, NRC-372 | |
| Download: ML052270051 (49) | |
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Tape: NRC TAPE 1, SIDE B, 10:18-11:03 Work Order No.: NRC-372 Pages 1-47 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.
Court Reporters and Transcribers 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.W.
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1 1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 3
4 HEADQUARTERS OPERATIONS CENTER 5
6 TELEPHONE CONVERSATION(S) 7 RE MILLSTONE ALERT DECLARATION 8 OF APRIL 17, 2005 9
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2 1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 2 MR. PARTICIPANT: . . . I think we're 3 still trying to figure out what initiated this and 4 working on that. So I haven't heard anyone nailing it 5 down yet.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Thank you.
7 MR. HORN: Rich Brian Horn from the NRC.
8 Was there maintenance going on at all in 9 the system.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: We'll find out for you 11 soon. I turn back over to the original guy who was on 12 here, Mike Toppia (phonetic), and (Inaudible) will 13 find out for you about that and have him --
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: Hold on just a second 15 before you leave the phone, Brian.
16 MR. HORN: Yes.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: I think we probably 18 don't want to get too detailed into the initiation of 19 the event right now until we understand where the 20 licensee is and their -- their declaration and the 21 stability of the system.
22 Is your line of questioning --
23 MR. HORN: I just wanted to know if 24 anything else has effected this. This -- and we don't 25 need it right now. But if -- you know, sometimes down NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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3 1 at Calvert we had safety valves, ADV's and some of the 2 control circuitry affected.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
4 MR. HORN: But we'll get that from an 5 update.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. I mean, your focus 7 is right, we need to be sure that there's not ongoing 8 activity right now that would reinitiate the event or 9 exacerbate the current condition.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: That's different than 12 looking for the route cause for the event. It could 13 be similar, but it could be different. So, I 14 understand what you're doing. That's fine.
15 MR. PARTICIPANT: Then it's okay if 16 (Inaudible) okay for me to continue turning over again 17 -- back over?
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Thank you, Rich.
19 MS. PARTICIPANT: Jim, it's Diane Screnci.
20 I just wanted to let you know I was on the line.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: Hi, Diane. How are you?
22 MS. PARTICIPANT: Oh, I'm good. Thanks.
23 How are you?
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: I'm right.
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4 1 event is concerned?
2 MS. PARTICIPANT: I heard the discussion 3 on the basis for the declaration, so I know that there 4 was an automatic shutdown following a stuck open steam 5 line valve. Plant conditions are normal now after the 6 shutdown. They're looking into the cause.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Diane, they have 8 activated their EOF.
9 MS. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: So there was probably a 11 communications person either in the EOF or getting 12 there.
13 MS. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: Would you have a way to 15 get in touch with them yourself or do you want to work 16 that through the bridge.
17 MS. PARTICIPANT: I may be able to do it 18 myself.
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. It might be good 20 if you were to talk to them.
21 MS. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: Apparently get an 23 understanding of where they are and what their 24 notifications are. And then as soon as you're aligned 25 then and comfortable with the event, then you can keep NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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5 1 up to speed as we move forward.
2 MS. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: That make sense to you?
4 MS. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
5 MR. LANNING: Jim, this is Wayne Lanning 6 in the IRC. Is the licensee communicator still on the 7 line?
8 MR. GOBLEY: Wayne, this is Mike Gobley, 9 station duty officer at Unit 3.
10 I have my manager communications out of 11 the EOF who wants to turn it over -- I've given him 12 the information I had (Inaudible) and my manager of 13 communication wants to know how to get into this 14 bridge whether they should just call in on the 15 emergency notification system?
16 MR. COLLINS: Okay. Just so I'm clear.
17 This is Sam Collins (phonetic). Thank you for that.
18 The manager of communications, is that a 19 public affairs officer or is that 00 20 MR. PARTICIPANT: No. I'm trying to find 21 out, Mike, if your actuated your ERDS system?
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: They tried to actually 23 ERDS. Are we actually at ERDS yet? Did we activate 24 the ERDS? (Inaudible) so they can see our data.
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6 1 line?
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: He hasn't signed on 3 here.
4 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Tim, are you on 5 the line.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. McGinty's here.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Tim, thank you.
8 Brian, would you take over the lead right 9 now because you may lose me. I'm on the cell phone.
10 Okay. Take over the lead for the line of questioning 11 for those of us who are not in the incident response 12 center. And work with Tim for turnover to Wayne since 13 he's in the instance response center. He's in a 14 better position -- and center point of continuity. So 15 that you and I become more listeners than coaches and 16 not the point.
17 If Wayne is there and we're in the 18 monitoring mode, then Wayne needs to be the lead.
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Okay. And I'll 20 make sure Wayne gets enough staff in here.
21 MS. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Tim, you okay 22 with that?
23 MR. PARTICIPANT: I'm fine with that. If 24 I understand the licensee correctly, they're 25 requesting to establish ENS communications from their NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE.. N.W.
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7 1 EOC and -- and the release the folks that are 2 associated with the control room. And I think we 3 ought to allow them to do that and establish through 4 the continuous communication from our incident 5 response center to the communicator in the EOF.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: So basically, Tim, 7 you're saying we can put him no this bridge now.
8 Wayne Lanning staying on this bridge. Go ahead.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. We should allow 10 that turnover and I think they've turned on -- turned 11 over. And Mike Defley, you can have your person in 12 the EOF call into the headquarter's office number, 13 correct, Tim.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: That's correct. And 15 then -- and to request to tie into this communication 16 bridge.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: Tim, would you give him 18 that number just to make sure, Tim?
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, sir. 301-816-5100.
20 MR. PARTICIPANT: 301-816-5100.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: Your manager can 22 communicate a call in there and request to tie into 23 the bridge.
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: And to tie into this, 25 this communication bridge so you can turn over, sir.
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8 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: All right. So we can 2 effect turn over.
3 And with respect to the ERDS, that issue 4 which we could not activate the ERDS and we had to 5 call one of our IT specialists to fix the issue there 6 so you can see our data.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Are you working on that?
8 MR. PARTICIPANT: That's correct, that's 9 working.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: It's Lanning at NRC. Let 12 us know when you're successful with that, please.
13 MR. PARTICIPANT: Let you know when we're 14 successful with ERDS.
15 MR. PARTICIPANT: Thank you.
16 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Brian, when 17 you're comfortable I'll let you take the lead on 18 ensuring Wayne is up to speed and he knows who is on 19 the bridges and what the outstanding questions are and 20 who has the lead at different points.
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9 1 to turn him over for the monitoring mode lead. And 2 Jim is briefing the executive level there in 3 headquarters.
4 Should a PM coming up on the line before 5 too much longer.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Okay.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: And the resident, if you 8 can help me understand the site (Inaudible).
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Right now Max 10 Schneider is on the way in to the site. We're still 11 trying to reach either Kevin Mangin or Silas Kennedy, 12 the other resident.
13 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: And we'll continue to do 15 that.
16 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: We're working on a SRA 18 also.
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Thank you.
20 Wayne, do you have somebody there to be 21 thinking about the appropriate follow up of the event 22 is stable and I'd like to be in the position to 23 undeclare the alert, then we're into the follow up 24 mode after notifications are done?
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10 1 up here, establishing communication bridges. We have 2 staff coming in.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Wayne, at this point can 4 you summarize whether you need us to help you get 5 additional people in.
6 MR. LANNING: That's negative, Brian. I 7 do need to know the status of Paul Krohn. Did you 8 reach Krohn?
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: We're still trying.
10 MR. LANNING: All right.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: Paul Krohn.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: I wasn't able to get a 13 hold of him. I left a message on his cell phone. I 14 have not been able to -- he has not returned his call 15 yet.
16 MR. LANNING: All right. That's fine.
17 Thank you.
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: And Wayne, right now do 19 you need another DRS branch chief? I could try Brian 20 McDermitt (phonetic).
21 MR. LANNING: I've got a DRS branch chief -
22 on his way.
23 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: Brian, I could come in 25 if you need me, too. This is Jim Trapp.
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11 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: Wayne, if you'd let us 2 know when you're comfortable with what you have for 3 communication and bridges, then that would help Brian 4 and I understand the status of the turn over to you.
5 MR. LANNING: I've got that, Sam. As soon 6 as we get bridges established, I'll let you know.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Mike Gobley from 8 Millstone, You still one.
9 MR. GOBLEY: Yes, I am.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. We have --
11 MR. GOBLEY: -- my manager of 12 communications as of 10:25. I'm staying on the line.
13 He's calling into the headquarters and asked to be 14 patched into this communications bridge.
15 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
16 MR. GOBLEY: I understand that he needs to 17 let you know when ERDS has been reestablished.
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Mike, just going 19 over the event again. Was it 8:29 in the morning, is 20 that correct.
21 MR. GOBLEY: That's correct.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: The alert was declared 23 at when?
24 MR. GOBLEY: 8:42.
25 MR. PARTICIPANT: 8:42.
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12 1 MR. GOBLEY: That's right.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: First indications again 3 in the control room, can you go over the sequence of 4 the lifting of the reliefs. Do you have that handy?
5 MR. GOBLEY: The sequence of the lifting 6 reliefs -- I know is the bravo steam generator had a 7 main steam safety valve lift. I know that 8 subsequently reseated. It had lifted enough to cause 9 a safety injection reactor trip and the safety 10 injection was caused by low steam generator pressure.
11 And, like I said, the bravo steam generator main steam 12 safety valve reseated and subsequently the bravo and 13 charlie main steam safety valves lifted.
14 At one point there was a report from the 15 field that we had five main steam safeties lifted.
16 MS. PARTICIPANT: That is five out of how 17 many?
18 MR. GOBLEY: Yes. And as of 09:31 the 19 report was that all the main steam safety valves had 20 reseated.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: That is five out of how 22 many safeties?
23 MR. GOBLEY: I'm not sure. How many steam 24 safeties do we have on this plant. Okay. Five steam 25 safeties on four steam generators, four main -- 20 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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13 1 main steam safety valves total.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Wayne, can I ask a 4 question? This is Jim.
5 MR. PARTICIPANT: Go ahead.
6 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Millstone, this is Jim 7 Wiggins the Deputy Regional Administer. Just one 8 technical question.
9 For your plant what should be opening the 10 safeties? Are they just purely pressure or do they 11 have a command open function in some way?
12 MR. GOBLEY: Jim, I'm -- I'm trained on 13 Millstone 2. This is Millstone 3. Hang on.
14 Ray, I've got Jim Wiggins from the NRC on 15 here and he wanted to know what gives the command to 16 open those things?
17 I'm going this to Ray Martin, he's the 18 shift manager on Unit 3.
19 MR. WIGGINS: Okay.
20 MR. PARTICIPANT: He should be able to 21 answer that technical question.
22 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
23 MR. MARTIN: This is Unit 3 control room.
24 This is Ray Martin. I'm a SRO at Unit 3. Who am I 25 talking to?
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14 1 MR. WIGGINS: This is Jim Wiggins. I'm the 2 Deputy Regional Administrator for Region I. And we 3 have a whole bunch of other people, including Brian 4 Holian and Wayne Lanning.
5 So the question I was asking is what 6 caused these valves to open? Are they pure safety 7 valves? Do they open on pressure or is there a relief 8 function that there's a command opening that can be 9 done through a control system or something?
10 MR. MARTIN: They open on pure pressure.
11 They're mechanical.
12 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. And was there any 13 prior work going on in the area that would have --
14 MR. MARTIN: No work around the safeties.
15 They did lift on a steam generator that we did have an 16 I & C type pressure card replaced this week. So we're 17 looking at two possibilities. Safety lifting on its 18 own starting the event or possibly the pressure 19 channel. One of the three pressure channels on the 20 steam generator spiking low starting the event.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: This is Brian Holian.
22 But you would have -- Jim Wiggins' question was do you 23 need an actual high pressure condition or do you have 24 a system logic that would also open them?
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15 1 that would open the safeties. We have atmospheric dump 2 valves which are controlled electronically. And 3 sensing off a pressure instrument. It looked like the 4 safeties were lifting low. In other words, we didn't 5 see pressures in the steam generators. It should be 6 near 1185 to lift. We didn't see them go above 1150, 7 but we're going to check that.
8 MR. WIGGINS: What would have caused --
9 what pressure are they normally running at?
10 MR. MARTIN: They lift in stages. There's 11 five for each generator. They start at 1185 psig.
12 MR. WIGGINS: Right. What was the steam 13 generator pressure normally prior to these --
14 MR. MARTIN: Good question. Our normal 15 pressure runs about 1000 pounds.
16 MR. WIGGINS: And did you see indications 17 of elevated pressure on the generators where the valve 18 lifted or haven't gotten that far yet?
19 MR. MARTIN: My review team is looking at 20 that. Did not see anything. It happened so fast we 21 did not see anything leading up to the possible cause.
22 MR. WIGGINS: Okay.
23 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Brian, you're asking 24 -- you have control of the questions?
25 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, Jim.
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16 1 MR. WIGGINS: All right. Good. Thanks.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: The atmospheric dump 4 valves also lifted?
5 MR. MARTIN: Are you asking me if -- are 6 you asking me if the pressurizer safety valves lifted?
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: No. Atmospheric dump 8 valves.
9 MR. MARTIN: On the steam generators?
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
11 MR. MARTIN: I'm not sure about that. They 12 should have.
13 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: Jim Trapp, you have 15 other questions?
16 MR. PARTICIPANT: No, I don't.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: All right.
18 MR. RYAN: This is John Ryan of the 19 Millstone Station Emergency Organizations, I'm the 20 Manger of Communications establishing contact with the 21 NRC bridge.
22 MR. TRAP: This is Jim Trapp again.
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17 1 what's to make the relief not open again?
2 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Hold on, guys. Brian 3 and Jim Trapp. This is Jim Wiggins.
4 We just had the Dominion's individual at 5 the EOF, the communicator come on. Brian, why don't 6 you just acknowledge that and see if they have an 7 answer to the question about the security related 8 activities.
9 MR. LANNING: Hi. It's Wayne Lanning. Let 10 me interrupt. Jim Trap, can you join me please at the 11 IRC?
12 MR. TRAPP: I could. Sure.
13 MR. LANNING: Thank you.
14 MR. TRAPP: All right. I'm on my way, 15 Wayne. I'll be about an hour.
16 MR. WHITE: Jim, this is John White.
17 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
18 MR. WHITE: I just talked to Jimmy Smith.
19 He's the security operations manager. Right now he's 20 under TSC. He indicates that he has his full staff on 21 board right now. They have not ruled out the tampering 22 question. There are two teams that have been 23 dispatched into the plant to look at electrical boxes 24 and the pump. But they have no evidence right now of 25 tampering, however they have not ruled that as a NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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18 1 possibility and it's still a question that they had to 2 resolve.
3 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Now, this is Jim 4 Wiggins again.
5 The Millstone communications officer in 6 the EOF, are you still on the line?
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, I am on the line.
8 MR. WIGGINS: All right. You just heard 9 our security branch chiefs report you got from your 10 security manager, is that how you understand it in 11 EOF?
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: We were -- I was not 13 aware that you were talking to the security manager.
14 But, Mr. Smith at DOC would be the manager of 15 security.
16 MR. WIGGINS: We know that. We have a 17 normal contact we make through our -- with your 18 management.
19 There was a question with regard to 20 whether there was a security related element or have 21 you ruled out the possibility of a security related 22 element, tampering or something like that as part of 23 the cause for this event. And that was the question.
24 I presume that was part of your turn over? You have 25 the answer.
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19 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: That was not in the turn 2 over, but I will ask the director of station emergency 3 operations as to whether or not he has made any ruling 4 on that.
5 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. And then while you're 6 asking the emergency director we would like to have at 7 least a brief conversation with the senior Dominion 8 individual leading the response, which I presume will 9 be the emergency director at this time?
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: That's correct.
11 MR. WIGGINS: And, you know, when he or 12 she has the time, we'd like to have a conversation 13 with him. So when you talk, can you ask the 14 individual when, you know if we can talk and if not, 15 when we can talk?
16 MR. PARTICIPANT: I understand you want to 17 talk to the director of station emergency operations 18 when he's available, and I will --
19 MR. WIGGINS: When he's available. Not to 20 interfere with his main duties at this point.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: I understand not to 22 interfere with main duty.
23 How would you like him to communicate --
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20 7-1 you. Your call.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: I understand.
3 Separately or take the phone.
4 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
5 MR. GOBLEY: Jim Wiggins, Mike Gobley at 6 Millstone 2 or Millstone 3.
7 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
8 MR. GOBLEY: Now that you have our manager 9 of communications John Ryan out of EOF on this bridge, 10 can I secure this link.
11 MR. WIGGINS: Brian Holian and Wayne, do 12 you have any problem with that? I don't.
13 MR. LANNING: No, that's fine.
14 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Fine. Go ahead.
15 Secure it. If we need you, we'll go through the EOF.
16 MR. GOBLEY: All right.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: (Inaudible).
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: This is Sam, while you 19 were briefing Ellis and Jim Dyer. We're establishing 20 a turn over to Wayne as soon as he gets staffed up and 21 establishes the lines of communication, then we'll 22 turn it over to Wayne for the lead.
23 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: For the monitoring mode 25 in the incident response center.
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21 1 Any issues come out of the call with Jim 2 and Ellis?
3 MR. WIGGINS: Well, Jim Dyer didn't --
4 didn't -- they never got him on that line. We'll need 5 to make sure we can brief him separately. And Ellis, 6 you know, his only addition is just don't forget to do 7 a TA brief at some point. I told him as soon as we got 8 settled in the incident response center, got our 9 communications up and had a better understanding, we'd 10 do it.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: Sure.
12 MR. WIGGINS: He seemed to agree with 13 that. Okay. We are attempting to get the PM involved 14 in the call. Dave Matthews signed off for 15 headquarters duty officer responsibility. Get the PM 16 on board and up to speed, then perhaps he and Wayne 17 can brief Jim Dyer when it's appropriate.
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Jim, this is Corney 19 Holden. I'll take care of getting a PM. Probably have 20 him go into headquarters ops center.
21 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Thank you.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: And also we asked that 23 Jim Trapp is responding to the incident response 24 center at Wayne's request.
25 MR. WIGGINS: Yes, I heard that.
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22 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
2 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Good.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: We got the speed on 4 everything else.
5 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. All right. So we just 6 need to understand. We have right now a management 7 bridge that is probably fairly large and includes the 8 licensee on this. So, you know, we need to understand 9 that going forward. We don't have a pure management 10 bridge. We're only NRC up. That's something Wayne 11 needs to take on as a -- you know, as soon as he has 12 someone who can talk to the safety people and we could 13 put the licensee on that. Or at least an ENS bridge, 14 and we could put the licensee on the ENS. And then we 15 could separate management bridge and talk among 16 themselves.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. What's next, 18 Brian?
19 MR. LANNING: This is Lanning. Just a 20 status for us here. We're still waiting for some 21 communicators before we can get everything set up.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay, Wayne. Wayne, you 23 know the ops center has an ENS bridge up, as I 24 understand it, and has this bridge which is really a 25 large management bridge. Okay. So one of the things NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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23 1 you'll need to get to help you is kind of sort out 2 phone bridges with the right people on the right 3 bridge.
4 MR. LANNING: Right, Jim. I understand 5 that. Will do.
6 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Now, I know that 7 Diane is listening in for public affairs. H ave we 8 heard back from Bores yet on whether he's made his 9 required notification or whether he needs some help 10 with that.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: We haven't, Jim. Diane 12 was -- was going to get in touch with a communications 13 lead from Millstone to be sure that she understood 14 what they knew and what their message was. I'm not 15 sure she's back on our bridge yet from that.
16 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Bob Bores we haven't 17 heard from.
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Jim Wiggins, this is 19 McGinty.
20 In reviewing the procedure that we have 21 for declaring monitoring, notification of Bill Outlaw 22 and Eliot Brenner are on there. So that's an activity 23 that we'll want to track and make sure that occurs.
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24 1 we've proceeded along smartly through the procedure.
2 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: We need to also confirm 4 the status of the external notifications by the 5 headquarters operation officer, the DHS and FEMA, 6 etcetera.
7 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. (Inaudible).
8 MR. PARTICIPANT: I would suggest that if 9 Bob Bores is out pocket, that we consider getting 10 somebody in there or -- or give over to Jerry to 11 resolve to manage these calls out of the incident 12 response center.
13 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. But if Bob says he was 14 on his way to the airport, that kind of put him out of 15 pocket in this. So we ought to try to separately find 16 out where -- or at least get another one of the 17 government liaison folks working.
18 The next in line would be Duncan White.
19 He looks like he has a New Jersey home address. And 20 then maybe it would be Sherrie Minnick (phonetic) who 21 has a Pennsylvania home address.
22 MR. HOLIAN: Jim, Wiggins. Brian Holian.
23 My phone got cut off. I'm back on now.
24 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. All right. Just sit 25 there for a second, Brian.
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25 1 Maybe we should just Sherrie up and get 2 her heading toward the center.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. I'd suggest that we 4 can it for Wayne, but if Wayne agrees, we'll get 5 Sherry on her way in and then ask her to check on Bob 6 Bores. And so that we understand the status of the 7 calls. If we can't, then we'll just have to try to do __
8 them again and be sure that people have been notified.
9 If they're notified twice, then that's our issue. But 10 we have to be sure that it's at least done once.
11 MR. WIGGINS: Right.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
13 MR. WIGGINS: Wayne, are you monitoring 14 the line?
15 MR. LANNING: Yes, I'm here. Go ahead.
16 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Are you comfortable 17 with that approach to state and governmental 18 notification?
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: You haven't heard from 20 Bob Bores yet, have you?
21 MR. LANNING: I just reached Bob Bores on 22 the phone. We're talking to him as we speak.
23 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. I've also asked for 24 Sherrie Minnick to start coming into the IRC.
25 MR. WIGGINS: Good job, Wayne.
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26 1 Okay. We'll let you manage it that end 2 now as long as you feel comfortable you have the 3 resources and notifications are being made, then you 4 got the lead on that.
5 MR. LANNING: Okay. I understand I got 6 the lead for the State. As soon as I get some support 7 communicators, we'll have the other communication 8 bridges established.
9 MR. WIGGINS: All right. And Diane calls 10 back in, we will get you on the line if you're not on 11 the bridge and be sure that you're aware of her 12 activities, too.
13 MR. LANNING: Okay. That's good.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: Jim, at some point we 15 may want to establish a separate bridge for Brian to 16 be talking to Wayne about any follow up activities 17 that we might want to consider either in the short 18 term or --
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. We got to move 20 towards a communication arrangement where we got a 21 reactor safety link up, a ENS bridge and then the 22 management link. And we've got to move the licensee 23 over to one of those other ones so we can have those 24 conversations you're asking for.
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27 1 takes the lead, would that be the right time to do 2 that?
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: And he says he's setting 4 up those bridges in the incident response center now.
5 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. We should do it as 6 soon as Wayne gets a communicator who could sit and 7 talk to the licensee on the -- you know, maybe we can 8 have the licensee at least kind of trickle on down and 9 have the licensee move to the reactor safety line.
10 Because, you know, until we get someone in the 11 station, the licensee is our information -- what's 12 happening at the plant. So as soon as Wayne gets a 13 reactor type communicator in, we should put a safety 14 bridge -- a reactor safety bridge up and get the 15 licensee moved to that so that we can just have this 16 management bridge to talk internally about where we 17 want to go with our pieces. That's how I would do it.
18 So, Wayne, when do you think you're going 19 to get a reactor person in?
20 MR. LANNING: Don't know, Jim. We've -- we 21 left a call, so we're just waiting.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: (Inaudible) is on the 23 way in.
24 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Jim Trapp is on his way 25 in, too.
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28 1 MR. LANNING: Yes.
2 MR. WIGGINS: That's an hour. He's way 3 out. Borrick (phonetic) is closer.
4 MR. WIGGINS: Wayne, how many people --
5 who do you actually have in the center?
6 MR. LANNING: I have Felicia and Nancy.
7 Okay.
8 MR. WIGGINS: Okay.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: This is Randy Blough.
10 I'm just leaving my driveway. I'm a half hour away.
11 MR. WIGGINS: Wayne, do you feel 12 comfortable with a reactor safety bridge just using 13 who you have there, either Nancy (Inaudible) so we can 14 kind of get these communications sorted out?
15 MR. LANNING: Negative, Jim. We're still 16 contacting people mainly. And so I need a few more 17 minutes.
18 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. So she's busy calling 19 people. All right. So we'll just sit this way for a 20 little bit.
21 MR. WHITE: Jim, this is John White. I'm 22 going to head into the IRC also.
23 MR. WIGGINS: Wayne, does that sound right 24 with you?
25 MR. LANNING: Yes, that's fine.
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29 1 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Anybody heading into 2 the center needs to clear it with Lanning. He's the 3 one that's controlling needs in there.
4 MR. LANNING: Mr. Doerflein just walked in 5 the door, so I'll be setting up the --
6 MR. WIGGINS: Good.
7 MR. LANNING: All right. Stand by.
8 MR. WIGGINS: And Millstone, you still on 9 the line?
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Millstone. On the line.
11 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Did you get an 12 understanding of when the emergency director could 13 talk to us?
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: He is -- it'll probably 15 be about 5 to 10 minutes.
16 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Then I think what's 17 going to happen in this communications is he'll have 18 to call in separately. Because we're about ready to 19 establish a bridge and move you over to talk to our 20 reactor safety people. Okay. Understand what I'm 21 saying?
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30 1 move you over to a reactor safety bridge while just us 2 NRC folks to have a bridge that we can talk together 3 to do NRC business.
4 MR. HOLIAN: Jim Wiggins, Brian Holian.
5 And is this -- is the name of the person 6 at Millstone right now, are you in the EOF.
7 MR. RYAN: This is John Ryan. I'm the 8 emergency communicator. I am in the EOF.
9 MR. HOLIAN: Okay. And do we still have 10 anyone on from the control room or they off?
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: They went off.
12 MR. RYAN: The control room line has 13 secured.
14 MR. HOLIAN: Okay. Thank you.
15 MR. WIGGINS: John Ryan, then you 16 understand what we're going to do. We'll just move 17 you to this other bridge when we have it set up, okay?
18 MR. RYAN: Understand.
19 MR. WIGGINS: All right.
20 MR. RYAN: Do you have a number that the 21 you would DOC to call.
22 MR. WIGGINS: The emergency director?
23 MR. RYAN: Yes.
24 MR. WIGGINS: The normal ops center 301-25 816-5100.
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31 1 MR. RYAN: 301-851.
2 MR. WIGGINS: 861.
3 MR. RYAN: 816.
4 MR. WIGGINS: 0050. No, wait a minute.
5 MR. PARTICIPANT: 5100.
6 MR. RYAN: 5100. I understand the number 7 is 301-816-5100.
8 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. That should be in your 9 standard procedures for alternate ways to call.
10 MR. RYAN: I've got that number on my 11 phone.
12 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. In fact, that's the 13 universal number to get ops center.
14 MR. RYAN: I understand you want him to 15 call the ops center.
16 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Thank you.
17 MR. RYAN: Any particular person he should 18 be talking to?
19 MR. WIGGINS: Pardon me?
20 MR. RYAN: Any one in particular that he 21 should be talking to?
22 MR. WIGGINS: Yes, me, Jim Wiggins.
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32 1 the management bridge.
2 MR. RYAN: Okay. Put on management 3 bridge.
4 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. There you go. Now let 5 me talk to ops folks who are getting this straightened 6 out.
7 Ops folks, are you on?
8 MR. PARTICIPANT: Headquarters operations 9 office.
10 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Let me start here and 11 get them.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: I'm on the line.
13 MR. PARTICIPANT: Jim, he's on.
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: I'm on the line.
15 MR. WIGGINS: Ops officer, this is Jim 16 Wiggins.
17 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, sir.
18 MR. WIGGINS: All right. You should have 19 had heard from Wayne Lanning that we need to set up a 20 reactor safety bridge and then a management bridge.
21 This is the management bridge we're now talking on.
22 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
23 MR. WIGGINS: Now we need to set up a 24 reactor safety bridge. Have they told you that yet?
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33 1 conversation, I wasn't given any orders to do that.
2 So--
3 MR. WIGGINS: Well, I'm not telling you to 4 do it yet either, but I'm just telling you what's 5 going to happen.
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
7 MR. WIGGINS: We're going to need a 8 reactor safety bridge set up and move the licensee to 9 it, okay?
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: Understand --
11 MR. WIGGINS: And then this will become 12 the management bridge.
13 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
14 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. So just hold on until 15 Lanning is ready to do that.
16 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Ops officer. It 17 will be communicated from the Region I incident _
18 response center and the licensee on that line? __
19 MR. WIGGINS: Right. It'll be Mr. Ryan 20 who is the -- and hopefully, you have him identified.
21 MR. PARTICIPANT: Mr. Ryan and the 22 licensee will be on the reactor safety bridge?
23 MR. WIGGINS: That's where it's heading.
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
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34 1 manager bridge to ourselves.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
3 MR. WIGGINS: Now, the licensee's 4 emergency director will be calling in separately to 5 talk with -- talk on the management bridge to us, 6 okay?
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Understand.
8 MR. WIGGINS: That's coming next.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay.
10 MR. WIGGINS: That'll come after we get 11 this reactor safety thing up.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Understand.
13 MR. WIGGINS: Okay.
14 MR. HOLIAN: All right. Mr. Ryan from 15 Millstone?
16 MR. RYAN: Yes.
17 MR. HOLIAN: Yes, this is Brian Holian 18 here. Do you have the latest summary from the plant, 19 you know --
20 MR. LANNING: Brian, can we hold that for 21 two minutes, please. This is Lanning. Stand by for a 22 minute, please, before you do that briefing.
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35 1 status of the notification from the headquarters duty 2 officer, too. So we understand (Inaudible) the status 3 of who has been notified, who hasn't.
4 MR. PARTICIPANT: Headquarters operations 5 office, you available?
6 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, I'm available.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Tim, are you in position 8 to continue continuity with Wayne?
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Who is talking, please?
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: This is Tim McGinty.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay, Tim.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Sam Collins and Jim 13 Wiggins have requested an update of a status of your 14 procedure. The alert procedure as well as the go into 15 monitoring mode procedure. Could you please give us 16 a rundown of the status of the completed actions in 17 that regard?
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
19 MR. PARTICIPANT: Generally they involve 20 the notifications that you have completed.
21 MR. LANNING: All right. Mr. Ryan, it's 22 Wayne Lanning at the CIRC. Are you prepared to give 23 us a status brief?
24 MR. RYAN: This is manager communications.
25 And, yes, I can give you a status brief at this time.
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36 1 MR. LANNING: All right. Would you go 2 ahead and do it, please?
3 MR. RYAN: I'm not sure how specific you 4 want me to be.
5 MR. LANNING: I would like you to be very 6 detailed starting at the very top with the initiation 7 of the event.
8 MR. RYAN: I understand you want me to 9 start at the initiation of the event.
10 MR. LANNING: That's correct.
11 MR. RYAN: At approximately 0829 we 12 received a reactor trip and a safety injection signal 13 was generated on the alpha channel. We had at least 14 one safety lift initially. It reseated and then we 15 had two steam generator -- I'm sorry, steam generator 16 safety lifts the second time.
17 The operating crew entered the zero E-O, 18 which is reactor trip safety injection response. And 19 then transitioned to ES1.1, which is SI termination.
20 After SI was terminated, we started 21 looking at the parameters. We did have primary safety 22 lift at about 2350 pounds, thereabouts.
23 At the present time the plant is stable.
24 We have the alpha -- I'm sorry, the bravo charging 25 pump running.
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37 1 We had a leak on the charging valve 3 CS 2 victor 661. And it is isolated at this time.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Wayne, do you want an 4 update if that leak was on the charging system?
5 MR. RYAN: That's correct. It was a leak 6 from a valve.
7 MR. LANNING: Mr. Ryan, are you there?
8 MR. RYAN: I'm right here.
9 MR. LANNING: Okay. Go ahead.
10 MR. RYAN: At the present that's the 11 status of the plan, except for the fact that the terry 12 turbine did get a start signal. And the terry turbine 13 pump tripped, MS5 closed. We had two motor drive feed 14 pumps so we did not attempt to reset it initially.
15 But the terry turbine pump had been reset.
16 (Inaudible).
17 MR. HOLIAN: Mr. Ryan, this is Brian 18 Holian. You're breaking up a little. The terry 19 turbine has been reset. Is your aux speed supplying 20 feed now?
21 MR. RYAN: One second. Understand.
22 We are feeding on three aux feedwater 23 pumps including the terry turbine.
24 MR. HOLIAN: Understand. Feeding on three 25 aux feed pumps.
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38 1 MR. RYAN: That's correct.
2 MR. HOLIAN: Steam generators are steaming 3 where now? MSIUS are shut.
4 MR. RYAN: Steam generator (Inaudible) 5 I'll have to get you that information.
6 MR. WIGGINS: Brian, I think when we turn 7 it over to Wayne, we need to be sure Wayne has a 8 complete list of not only the initiating event -- I 9 thought I heard something about a primary relief in 10 there.
11 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. That's the first 12 I've heard of that. There's 2350 psi to get a primary 13 lift.
14 MR. WIGGINS: That's a new piece in this.
15 MR. RYAN: That's correct. It was not 16 communicated with you immediately on my turn over.
17 That primary relief has reseated.
18 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. How long was it 19 open?
20 MR. RYAN: I will get have to get 21 information from the control room as to how long that 22 was open.
23 MR. PARTICIPANT: Well, let's also find 24 that -- I presume that primary safety goes to a 25 pressure relief tank?
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39 1 MR. RYAN: That's correct. It's go to the 2 PRT.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes, and is the PRT 4 still intact or is the disk ruptured?
5 MR. RYAN: I will get you the correct 6 information. I do not know that. I believe that it is 7 intact. We'll follow up on that.
8 MR. PARTICIPANT: You know we still need 9 to ask the question about any abnormal releases?
10 (Inaudible) if John White is in there, then we need to 11 be tracking that statement.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. Can you give us 13 some information on the relative sequence? Did the 14 steam generator reliefs or safeties open before you 15 saw the primary relief or was it primary relief first 16 while --
17 MR. RYAN: I don't have that information 18 right now. So you're asking whether the primary 19 relief lifted first?
20 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Was it the steam 21 generator relief with the MSIVs closed and then the 22 primary lifted or is it a different sequence?
23 MR. RYAN: I understand. You want the 24 sequence of release concerning the primary relief and 25 secondary relief as well as the MSIV closure?
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40 1 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Please.
2 MR. RYAN: I'll have to get that on the 3 PPC.
4 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. Thank you.
5 MR. SCHNEIDER: Hey, Jim.
6 MR. WIGGINS: Yes.
7 MR. SCHNEIDER: This is Max Schneider at--
8 MR. WIGGINS: Yes, Wayne's got -- Wayne, 9 are you ready to take the lead for this yet because 10 we've got three or four people all behaving like --
11 you know, all asking questions.
12 MR. WIGGINS: Yes. Well, Max Schneider.
13 I just want to know to your location.
14 MR. SCHNEIDER: I'm in the Unit 3 control 15 room. I can give you a little perspective on the 16 pressurizer release if you like.
17 MR. LANNING: Yes. Please do.
18 MR. SCHNEIDER: They initiated SIAS. And 19 so the one train of SIAS initiated automatically and 20 then they initiated it manually. When they do that, 21 they're charging to the plant and they basically took 22 the plant solid --
23 MR. PARTICIPANT: Right. They created the 24 high pressure.
25 MR. RYAN: Right.
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41 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: By not solving 2 (Inaudible)?
3 MR. RYAN: Right. That happened after the 4 steam generators lifted.
5 MR. WIGGINS: Well, Ellis was right then.
6 He said that that was likely what would happen. He 7 didn't have that information when I talked to him, but 8 he was right.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
10 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. So, Max, you're 11 believing that this is the primary -- was it a relief-12 -
13 MR. SCHNEIDER: Right.
14 MR. WIGGINS: That was because of the 15 result of the pressurizer going solid on the safety 16 injection?
17 MR. SCHNEIDER: Absolutely.
18 MR. RYAN: And the steam generator 19 safeties are the ones that lifted and then 20 subsequently relifted. And there was no atmosphere 21 dump valves because that's isolated on the MSI signal.
22 23 That's why -- I think you were asking 24 earlier, Brian, about atmosphere dump valves.
25 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
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42 1 MR. RYAN: They would not have lifted once 2 the MSI came in. It prevents them from doing it.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: But aren't the -
4 atmospheric dumps still upstream of that?
5 MR. PARTICIPANT: Upstream of the main 6 steam safeties -- I mean main steam isolation. Sorry.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes. I mean right now 8 they're steaming, Max.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: They're using the ADV's.
10 MR. PARTICIPANT: That's what I mean.
11 They're using the ADDs now. Okay.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Right. Yes.
13 MR. WIGGINS: With the MSIV shut?
14 MR. PARTICIPANT: Actually, I think so 15 because I wanted to get on the phone before I did a 16 walk down, but I'm not really exactly sure. That 17 would be expected once you have an MSI, you're going 18 to shut your MSIVs. So I don't think -- but I can find 19 out.
20 MR. PARTICIPANT: Mr. Ryan, are you still 21 monitoring this phone? Mr. Ryan?
22 MR. RYAN: Yes, I'm still monitoring the 23 phone.
24 MR. PARTICIPANT: Can you give me a time 25 for when the MSIV closed?
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43 1 MR. RYAN: I can get you that. I do not 2 have a time right off the top of my head.
3 MR. PARTICIPANT: I also need a time for 4 the termination of SI.
5 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Wayne?
6 MR. LANNING: Yes. Go ahead.
7 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Thank you, Wayne.
8 Those are all good questions. I think 9 Jim's point a minute about aligning ourselves with who 10 has the lead for the licensee has one focus for the 11 NRC. Are you prepared to take the lead?
12 MR. LANNING: I'm prepared to take the 13 lead provided we're through with this briefing. I 14 want to conclude this briefing in its entirely prior 15 to separating the bridges.
16 MR. WIGGINS: Okay. So for the purposes 17 of this briefing then, why don't you take the lead 18 because you have the questions that you would need in 19 order to be comfortable of the status of events. And 20 then we'll work questions through you. And then when 21 we're done the briefing, then we'll talk about the 22 turn over. How's that for a plan?
23 MR. LANNING: That's a good plan.
24 MR. WIGGINS: Jim, you aligned with that, 25 you and Brian?
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44 1 MR. PARTICIPANT: Yes.
2 MR. PARTICIPANT: All right. Excuse me, 3 gentlemen. This is headquarters operations officer.
4 I have Mr. Price (phonetic) from Millstone 5 who wishes to speak to Jim Wiggins. Did you want to 6 do that on a separate conference?
7 MR. LANNING: Do it on this bridge until 8 we get the bridges separated, please.
9 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. You want me to 10 add Mr. Price to this bridge then?
11 MR. LANNING: Go ahead.
12 MR. PARTICIPANT: Okay. Stand by.
13 MR. WIGGINS: Wayne, you might as well 14 take the lead on this call, too. Just tell him we're 15 all here listening. Is that okay, Wayne?
16 MR. LANNING: That's fine. Yes.
17 MR. WIGGINS: And what I get from Allen is 18 where does he think he is and where, you know, what 19 things do they want to achieve before they stand down 20 from the alert.
21 MR. PRICE: Good morning.
22 MR. LANNING: Good morning, Allen. This 23 is Wayne Lanning.
24 MR. PRICE: Hey, Wayne. How you doing 25 today?
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45 1 MR. LANNING: I'm well, sir.
2 You're on the bridge with numerous NRC 3 staff.
4 MR. PRICE: Yes, sir.
5 MR. LANNING: And your Mr. Ryan is also on 6 the bridge.
7 MR. PRICE: Very good.
8 MR. LANNING: We're looking to you to sort 9 of give us your status and what your plans are.
10 MR. PRICE: Okay.
11 MR. LANNING: Particularly with regard to 12 terminating the alert.
13 MR. PRICE: Understand.
14 MR. LANNING: Go ahead.
15 MR. PRICE: Okay. I will assume that you 16 all know some of the major topical areas, but I'll hit 17 some of the major millstones for you.
18 MR. LANNING: Sure.
19 MR. PRICE: That about 0829 a.m. this 20 morning Unit 3 Millstone had a reactor trip and safety 21 injection steam line low pressure (Inaudible). As of 22 right now the cause of trip is undetermined. And I 23 understand that there was a previous question with 24 regard to tampering. We have not ruled it out, but we 25 have no reason to believe that tampering was involved.
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46 1 That will be part of our investigation. But once 2 again, we have no reason at this time to believe that 3 tampering was involved with the initiation of the 4 reactor trip and safety injection.
5 Our main safety systems did operate.
6 We currently have -- we did go solid in 7 our pressurizer. We have recovered pressurizer level 8 and pressure is steady. And have an individual 9 standing in front of the status board. But we have 64 10 percent in the pressurizer and we are at roughly 2200 11 pounds in the primary coolant system. So we have 12 pressure control and we have pressurizer level 13 restored to scale.
14 We have transitioned to our emergency 15 procedure ES1.1 safety injection termination. And we 16 have terminated the safety injection and we're back on 17 normal charging and let down.
18 We declared our alert charlie 1 based on 19 our tables, which give you direct alert classification 20 based on a main steam safety valve stuck open. The 21 reason that we classified that is we had a safety 22 valve on the bravo steam generator which had opened 23 below its set point. And right now we don't know if 24 that was the initiator of the safety injection or came 25 immediately after the safety injection signal. But NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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47 1 based on the fact that that steam generator opened 2 below its set point, the shift manager made the 3 classification of alert charlie 1, and that's the 4 classification that we remain in.
5 We have not yet reached conclusion, but 6 what we are . . .
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