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| Site: | Dresden  (DPR-019, DPR-025) |
| Issue date: | 04/10/2003 |
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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
Title:
Dresden Nuclear Power Station Public Scoping Meeting - Evening Session Docket Number:
50-237, 50-249 Location:
Morris, Illinois Date:
Thursday, April 10, 2003 Work Order No.:
NRC-863 Pages 1-47
1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1
NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 2
DRESDEN NUCLEAR POWER STATION 3
PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING 4
THURSDAY 5
APRIL 10, 2003 6
MORRIS, ILLINOIS 7
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8 The NRC Public Scoping Meeting met at 9
Jennifers Garden Banquet & Convention Center, 555 10 West Gore Road, at 7:00 p.m., Chip Cameron presiding.
11 PRESENT:
12 Chip Cameron 13 J. Tappert 14 T.J.Kim 15 D. Wheeler 16 B. Hovey 17 F. Polaski 18 R. Emch 19 B. Zalcman 20 A. Rodriguez 21 M. Dyer 22 R. Emch 23 L. Fatlan 24 G. Kirn 25 26
2 I N D E X 1
AGENDA ITEM PAGE 2
Welcome and Purpose of Meeting 3 3
(F. Cameron) 4 Overview of License Renewal Process 8/10 5
(J. Tappert/T.J. Kim) 6 Overview of Environmental Review Process 16 7
(D. Wheeler) 8 Public Comment 24 9
(F. Cameron) 10 Bob Hovey 24 11 Fred Polaski 27 12 Alfie Rodriguez 33 13 Millie Dyer 35 14 Richard Emch 36 15 Lee Fatan 41 16 Barry Zalcman 42 17 George Kirn 44 18 Closing/Availability of Transcripts 49 19 (F. Cameron) 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
3 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 1
(7:00 P.M.)
2 MR. CAMERON: Good evening everyone. My 3
name is Chip Cameron. Im the Special Counsel for 4
Public Liaison at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, 5
and I want to welcome you all to the meeting tonight, 6
and its my pleasure to serve as your Facilitator for 7
the meeting tonight. And in that role, Im going to 8
try to make sure that you all have a productive 9
meeting.
10 The Exelon Company has submitted an 11 application to the NRC to renew the licenses, the 12 operating licenses for the Dresden Nuclear Power 13 Station Units II and III and the focus of our meeting 14 tonight is to talk about the environmental review that 15 the NRC does to help it evaluate whether to grant that 16 license renewal application.
17 And in terms of format for the meeting 18 tonight, the meetings going to be basically divided 19 into two parts. Part one is for the NRC staff to give 20 you some background on the license renewal process to 21 make sure that everybody understands it. And well 22 have a couple of presentations and then well go on to 23 you to see if theres any questions at all about the 24 process.
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4 The second part of the meeting is an 1
opportunity for all of us to listen to any comments, 2
any recommendations, any concerns that you might have 3
about this process and about our environmental review 4
specifically. And several people have signed up to 5
come and speak to us tonight and if you are seized by 6
the inspiration to speak and you havent signed up, 7
dont worry about it. Well have you on. And during 8
that part of the meeting, we ask people to either come 9
up here to speak from the podium or if you feel more 10 comfortable just speaking where you are, Ill bring 11 this cordless mic over to you.
12 In terms of ground rules for the meeting, 13 if you do have a question, just signal me and Ill 14 bring you the microphone and give us your name and 15 affiliation if appropriate. We are making a 16 transcript. Stuart Karoubas is with us tonight, our 17 stenographer. And anything that you say tonight will 18 be treated as a comment on the scope of the 19 environmental review carrying the same weight as the 20 written comments that we receive.
21 I dont think were going to be pressed 22 for time tonight, but I would still just like you to 23 be a little bit economical in your comments and well 24 use a guideline of five to seven minutes for the 25 prepared comments and that way well make sure that we 26
5 cover all the material and that everybody has an 1
opportunity to speak tonight.
2 The last thing that I want to do is to 3
give you an overview of the agenda so you know what to 4
expect and to introduce the staff, NRC staff, that 5
will be talking tonight and to give you an idea of 6
what their background is, what type of skills and 7
experience they bring to this evaluation of the 8
9 John Tappert from the NRC is right here, 10 and Im going to ask John in a minute or so to give 11 you a formal welcome. And he is the Chief of the 12 Environmental Section within the License Renewal and 13 Environmental Impacts Program at the NRC. And John 14 and his staff are responsible for doing the 15 environmental reviews on these license renewal 16 applications, as well as, other reactor licensing 17 activities that the NRC is engaged in.
18 And Johns been with the Agency for 19 approximately twelve years, and he was a Resident 20 Inspector at one part of his NRC career. And our 21 Resident Inspectors are the NRC eyes and ears, so to 22 speak, at each of the reactors that we license. In a 23 few minutes, I want to introduce you to the Resident 24 Inspector for the Dresden plants.
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6 But John was a Resident Inspector. Before 1
that he was in the Naval Submarine Program. Hes a 2
submariner, and he has a bachelors degree in 3
engineering from Virginia Tech and a masters degree 4
in environmental engineering from Johns Hopkins 5
University. So John will give you a welcome and a 6
brief overview of the NRC, and then were going to go 7
to an overview of the license renewal process 8
generally.
9 And to do that for us, we have Mr. T.J.
10 Kim who is right here, also from the NRC. T.J. is the 11 Project Manager for the safety part of the evaluation 12 of these Dresden license renewal applications. And he 13 also is in the License Renewal and Environmental 14 Impacts Program but hes on the safety side. Hes not 15 in John Tapperts Environmental Section. And T.J.s 16 been with the NRC for nineteen years. He also was a 17 Resident Inspector at one point in his career, and he 18 has a chemical engineering degree from Drexel and a 19 technical management masters degree from Johns 20 Hopkins University.
21 Well then go on to you for questions, 22 then were going to go to the specifics of the 23 environmental review process, and Mr. Duke Wheeler is 24 right here. Duke is going to give a presentation on 25 that and he is the Project Manager for the 26
7 environmental part of the review on the Dresden 1
license renewal applications. And Duke has been with 2
the Agency for twenty years. Before that he was with 3
the Westinghouse Naval Nuclear Power Program. He was 4
a nuclear weapons officer in the United States Army, 5
and he has a nuclear engineering bachelors degree 6
from the West Point Military Academy.
7 One other person Id like to introduce 8
thats part of the environmental review, is Mr. Bruce 9
McDowell whos right here. As youll hear Duke talk 10 about the NRC as assisted in the environmental review 11 from, by experts in various environmental disciplines.
12 And Bruce is the Task Leader for those experts who are 13 assisting us, and hes from Lawrence Livermore Lab in 14 Livermore, California. He is the Environmental 15 Assurance Manager. Hes been there since 1991.
16 Before that, he was involved in renewable energy 17 activities, and he has a masters in business 18 administration from the University of San Francisco 19 and a masters in resource economics from the 20 University of California at Davis.
21 And I just want to introduce one more 22 person. We have lots of staff here, but in terms of 23 the Dresden Units key person from the NRC is Desiree 24 Smith whos right here. And Desiree is the Resident 25 Inspector there, and if you all have questions about 26
8 what the resident does during the meeting, we can get 1
Desiree to address that then. But thank you for being 2
here, Desiree.
3 And I just would thank all of you for 4
being here and look forward to having a good meeting, 5
and if you have questions, please ask them and we can 6
just try to be informal tonight and John Tappert?
7 MR. TAPPERT: Thank you, Chip. And good 8
evening and welcome, and welcome back to those of you 9
who attended our matinee session. As Chip said, my 10 name is John Tappert and Im the Chief of the 11 Environmental Section in the Office of Nuclear Reactor 12 Regulation and on behalf of the Nuclear Regulatory 13 Commission, Id like to thank you for coming out here 14 tonight and participating in our process. As Chip 15 said, theres several things wed like to cover today, 16 and Id like to briefly go over the purposes of 17 tonights meeting.
18 First of all, we want to give you an 19 overview of the license renewal process which is 20 composed of two parts, a safety review, as well as an 21 environmental review, which is the principle focus of 22 tonights meeting. That environmental review will 23 identify those issues that we will be looking at as we 24 assess the environmental impacts associated with 25
9 extending the operating license of the Dresden Units 1
II and III for an additional twenty years.
2 Well also give you information about our 3
schedule, and the opportunities that you will have to 4
participate further in this process. At the 5
conclusion of the staffs remarks, well be happy to 6
receive any questions or comments that you may have 7
about our review tonight. And that really is the 8
principle reason for this meeting today.
9 But first let me provide some general 10 context for the license renewal process. The Atomic 11 Energy Act gives the NRC the authority to issue 12 operating licenses to commercial nuclear power plants 13 for a period of forty years. For Dresden Units II and 14 III, those operating licenses will expire in 2009 and 15 2011 respectively. Our regulations also make 16 provisions for extending that operating license for an 17 additional twenty years as part of a license renewal 18 program. And Exelon has requested license renewal for 19 both Units.
20 As far as the NRCs review of that 21 application, we will be developing an Environmental 22 Impact Statement. Right now, were in what we call 23 the scoping phase where we seek to identify those 24 issues which will require the greatest focus during 25
10 our review. And your questions and comments today are 1
an important part of that scoping process.
2 And with that brief introduction, I would 3
like to ask T.J. to describe the safety and overall 4
review.
5 MR. KIM: Thank you, John. As Chip said, 6
my name is T.J. Kim and Im the NRCs Project Manager 7
responsible for the safety review of the Exelons 8
license renewal application for both Dresden and Quad 9
Cities. Before I get into the discussion of the 10 license renewal process, Id like to take a minute to 11 talk about the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the NRC, 12 in terms of what we do and what our mission is.
13 The Atomic Energy Act of 1954, which is 14 the enabling legislation that authorizes the NRC to 15 regulate the civilian use of nuclear materials. In 16 carrying out that statutorial authority, the NRCs 17 mission is really threefold. One, to ensure adequate 18 protection of public health and safety. Two, to 19 protect the environment and three, to provide for a 20 common defense and security.
21 The NRC accomplishes its mission through 22 a combination of various regulatory programs and 23 processes such as inspections, enforcement activities, 24 assessment of licensee performance, evaluation of 25 operating experience at nuclear plants across the 26
11 country, as well as foreign reactors, rulemaking 1
activities and licensing.
2 Again, these are some of the major and 3
ongoing regulatory programs and processes that are 4
designed to ensure that we are complying with the 5
statutory mission. As Mr. Tappert mentioned earlier, 6
the Atomic Energy Act provides for forty year license 7
term for power reactors, but it also allows for 8
9 By the way, the forty year license term 10 for power reactors, is primarily based on economic and 11 antitrust considerations rather than safety 12 limitations or technical limitations. So to address 13 the requirements and to provide for regulatory process 14 for license renewal, the Commission has promulgated 15 the license renewal rule in 10 CFR Part 54. Thats 16 Title 10 of Code of Federal Regulations Part 54.
17 Title 10 by the way, is the compilation of all the 18 rules and regulations that governs NRC activities.
19 Next slide please.
20 The license renewal process as defined in 21 10 CFR Part 54, is quite similar to the original 22 licensing process for power reactors in that it 23 involves safety review, an environmental impact 24 review, confirmatory plant inspections and independent 25 review by Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards or 26
12 the ACRS. There is one very important distinction 1
here however, that in promulgating the license renewal 2
rule, the Commission has determined that many aspects 3
of the current licensing basis for nuclear power 4
plants, such as emergency planning and plant physical 5
security, are adequately addressed by the current 6
regulatory programs and processes such as these can 7
carry through the license renewal term. Thats a very 8
important concept to remember when we further discuss 9
the license renewal process.
10 Before I move on to the next slide, Id 11 like to make a quick comment about the role of the 12 Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards or the ACRS.
13 The ACRS is basically a group of nationally-14 recognized technical experts on nuclear safety arena 15 that functions as a consulting body to the Commission 16 itself. The ACRS performs independent review and 17 assessment of each license renewal application, as 18 well as, the staff safety evaluation reports. And the 19 ACRS then forms their own opinions and conclusions and 20 reports those directly to the Commission. Next slide 21 please.
22 This slide basically provides a big 23 picture overview of the license renewal process, and 24 as you can see from the slide, the process involves 25 two separate tracks that are obviously parallel. The 26
13 first process involves safety review which is depicted 1
on the top portion of the slide, and the other part of 2
the process involves environmental review, and thats 3
depicted at the bottom line down here. And let me 4
talk a little bit about the safety review process 5
first.
6 Safety review basically involves NRC 7
staffs review and assessment of technical information 8
thats contained in the license renewal application.
9 And I have a team of about thirty NRC technical 10 experts back at the NRC headquarters, who are 11 conducting this review right now. And our team is 12 supported by three different technical experts in 13 three different national laboratories including 14 Argonne, Brookhaven up in Long Island, New York and 15 Pacific Northwest up in the State of Washington.
16 So I have put together quite a team of 17 experts to conduct the safety review on license 18 renewal safety review. The safety review basically 19 involves the NRC staffs assessment of the 20 effectiveness on the proposed aging management 21 programs to ensure that the plants safety related 22 structure, the systems and components, will maintain 23 its effectiveness throughout the license renewal term.
24 The second aspect of the staff safety 25 review, involves whats called time-limited aging 26
14 analyses. The license renewal rule requires each 1
license renewal applicant to basically reevaluate 2
those design basis analyses that assumes a forty year 3
life term. So the reevaluation basically involves 4
extending the life, the qualification of those 5
components from forty years to sixty years to cover 6
the license renewal period.
7 An example of time limited aging analysis 8
would be environmentally qualified equipments such as 9
electrical components or cables that are expected to 10 survive and function at the end of its design life.
11 So the license renewal application would include those 12 time limiting aging analyses that would cover the 13 license renewal period.
14 The results of the safety review then will 15 be documented in whats called Safety Evaluation 16 Report, and as Ive indicated earlier, a copy of that 17 would be provided to the ACRS for their second review.
18 The safety review process also involves confirmatory 19 inspections for Dresden and Quad Cities license 20 renewal application, we have planned three such 21 inspections. One inspection will be conducted at 22 Exelons engineering office. The second inspection is 23 planned at the Dresden site and the third inspection 24 is planned at the Quad Cities site. Each inspection 25 will be conducted by a team of seven inspectors.
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15 Theyll be pulled together from both NRC Headquarters 1
and the Region 3 offices.
2 At the bottom of the slide is the 3
environmental review process that involves scoping 4
activities which this meeting is a part of. It would 5
also involve preparing a draft supplement to GEIS.
6 GEIS stands for Generic Environmental Impact 7
Statement, and well be publishing that draft 8
supplement to solicit comments from the public and 9
then eventually well issue a final supplement to 10 GEIS.
11 So as you can see from this slide, the 12 final Agency decision on whether to approve or deny 13 the application, would involve all those things that 14 I just talked about, staff safety evaluation report, 15 final supplement to GEIS, as well as, the inspection 16 reports and the independent report by the ACRS. And 17 this whole process takes approximately twenty-two 18 months.
19 Now if theres a petition filed to 20 intervene in this process by an individual or a group 21 of individuals, and if they can demonstrate sufficient 22 standing, then hearings, adjudicatory hearings can 23 also be involved in the process. An adjudicatory 24 hearing is basically NRCs process that involves trial 25 type hearings.
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16 That basically concludes my prepared 1
remarks. If there are any questions, Id be happy to 2
answer them.
3 MR. CAMERON: Great. Thank you very much 4
T.J. Thats the overview of the process. A lot of 5
material. Does anybody have any questions on that at 6
all? Okay, were going to go to the environmental 7
part of the NRC review process with Mr. Duke Wheeler, 8
and then well come back on and see if theres any 9
questions on any of it.
10 MR. WHEELER: Thank you, Chip. I am Duke 11 Wheeler, and I am the Project Manager on the NRC staff 12 responsible for coordinating the activities of the NRC 13 staff and a team of environmental experts from various 14 national labs to develop the site-specific 15 Environmental Impact Statement for Dresden that 16 supplements our Generic Environmental Impact Statement 17 for the License Renewal of Nuclear Plants. May I have 18 the next slide please?
19 The National Environmental Policy Act of 20 1969 requires that a systematic approach be followed 21 in evaluating environmental impacts associated with 22 certain proposed Federal actions. We consider the 23 impacts of the proposed action, and we also consider 24 the impacts of mitigation in those instances where we 25 find that the impacts are significant. We also 26
17 consider alternatives to the proposed action.
1 Alternatives being other sources of energy such as 2
coal, natural gas are included in our consideration of 3
alternatives. We also take a look at renewable energy 4
sources.
5 One other alternative that we take a look 6
at is what we call the no-action alternative where we 7
just decide not to approve the proposed license 8
renewal. The National Environmental Policy Act and 9
our Environmental Impact Statement that is developed 10 under its provisions are a disclosure mechanism to 11 inform the public of these environmental impacts. The 12 National Environmental Policy Act specifically has 13 provisions for public participation in our process and 14 this meeting is a part of facilitating the publics 15 participation in our environmental review.
16 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has 17 determined that an Environmental Impact Statement will 18 be prepared for proposed license renewal of nuclear 19 power plants. We are now gathering information for 20 the EIS. Were collecting public comments that will 21 help us scope out, if you will, the bounds of our 22 environmental review. May I have the next slide?
23 The Environmental Impact Statement that 24 Im going to be preparing is designed to basically 25 address one issue, standard issue, one decision 26
18 standard, if you will. And that basically is, we will 1
make a determination of whether or not the adverse 2
environmental impacts of the proposed license renewal 3
are so great that preserving the option of license 4
renewal for the decisionmakers becomes unreasonable.
5 The point Id like to make is that the NRC 6
does not determine whether or not our plant will 7
actually operate for an additional twenty years. That 8
decision is made by other groups and agencies include 9
the licensee, State regulators, and so forth. We will 10 just issue an operating license presuming that we 11 determine that they have met our safety requirements 12 and the environmental requirements that were 13 responsible for under the National Environmental 14 Policy Act. May I have the next slide?
15 A few moments ago, T.J. had a slide on the 16 screen that was similar to this one. It was basically 17 a flow process and this slide is just an expansion of 18 the bottom line of his slide that described the 19 environmental review process. We received Exelons 20 application for the combined license renewal for 21 Dresden and Quad Cities on January the 3rd of this 22 year. On March the 14th, I issued a Notice of Intent 23 to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement and 24 conduct scoping. We are now in more or less the 25 middle of the scoping period. Its a sixty day period 26
19 of time and at the end of the scoping period, which 1
will be on May the 14th, I will issue a scoping 2
summary report that will address all the comments we 3
receive from all sources during the scoping process.
4 And Ill address those within the framework of our 5
environmental review.
6 About two weeks ago, members of the NRC 7
staff and our team of environmental experts from 8
various national labs visited the site as part of one 9
of our information gathering activities. We walked 10 the grounds, we reviewed a lot of licensing procedures 11 and records, talked to several of their people. If we 12 determine after all of that, the scoping and the site 13 audit and paying substantial attention to the 14 environmental report that they provided us with their 15 application, if we still need additional information 16 to complete a draft of our Environmental Impact 17 Statement, then I will issue a request for additional 18 information. And I will do that no later than May the 19 30th of this year. Then I expect to get an answer 20 back from Exelon providing us that additional 21 information within about eight weeks.
22 We will then have what we need to develop 23 a draft of our Environmental Impact Statement, and I 24 will publish that in December of this year. And youll 25 note that theres also, by the graphics here, an 26
20 opportunity for public participation at this stage of 1
our process. When I publish that draft, I will also 2
be starting a seventy-five day public comment period 3
on that draft Environmental Impact Statement. At the 4
end of that seventy-five day public comment period, we 5
then will take all the information that we have, and 6
I will publish a final Environmental Impact Statement 7
for the proposed license renewal, and I expect to do 8
that in July of 2004. May I have the next slide?
9 This slide just shows some of the sources 10 that we go to to gather information to develop our 11 draft Environmental Impact Statement. The big focus 12 at the moment, receiving public comments, thats what 13 this meeting is all about. But we also go to several 14 other sources of information to help us prepare the 15 draft. May I have the next slide?
16 This slide just identifies a lot of the 17 environmental disciplines that we focus on as we write 18 our draft Environmental Impact Statement. The NRC 19 staff, as has been mentioned, is supplemented by a 20 team of experts from various national laboratories and 21 we have experts in these various areas. The 22 laboratories represented on our team, Lawrence 23 Livermore National Laboratory out in Livermore, 24 California, the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory 25 out in Richland, Washington. We also have a couple of 26
21 people on our Dresden team from the Argonne National 1
Laboratory, just up the road here, and some members on 2
our team from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in 3
4 One term that Id like to focus some 5
attention on at the moment that may not be familiar to 6
everybody is this term, you see where it says 7
environmental justice? And what that means is we take 8
a look at the question of whether or not any 9
environmental impacts associated with the proposed 10 license renewal disproportionately impact low income 11 or minority segments of the local population. May I 12 have the next slide?
13 This slide just recaps a couple of the key 14 milestone dates in our schedule that Ive already 15 mentioned. Note the scoping period ends on May the 16 12th and one note on that. If I receive comments 17 after May 12th, I will still give it my best attempt 18 to consider those comments in the development of the 19 draft Environmental Impact Statement. I will 20 definitely consider all comments received up until May 21 the 12th. Thats a commitment that Ill make right 22 now, that I will do. If it comes in afterwards, Ill 23 give it a try, but I cant guarantee it. It will 24 depend on the comment and the timing. Again, December 25 2003 for the draft, seventy-five day comment period 26
22 and eventually July 2004 for the final. May I have 1
the next slide?
2 This slide just identifies myself as your 3
primary point of contact with the NRC staff for any 4
particular interests you may have. Theres a 5
telephone number for me on this slide. Youre welcome 6
to call at any time. Id also like to point out that 7
very early in our process, I came out here and visited 8
a couple of local libraries to make Exelons 9
application for license renewal, and particularly the 10 environmental report for Dresden, available. It is 11 available at the Morris Public Library and I also 12 drove over to Coal City and spoke with the staff there 13 and they were more than happy to make space available 14 for us on the reference shelf to provide, to make 15 available, a copy of the license renewal application 16 for your review. And these libraries are also on my 17 mailing list for important correspondence that leaves 18 our office to go out to the licensee or to other 19 agencies that were dealing with and a file of this 20 correspondence will be maintained at these libraries.
21 The application can also be viewed via the 22 internet at the NRCs website, www.nrc.gov. And 23 speaking of that, one thing Id like to point out is 24 that occasionally people run into some difficulties in 25 navigating the internet, getting what they need. If 26
23 for some reason you do run into some difficulties, 1
give me a telephone number, excuse me, give me a phone 2
call at the phone number that youve got and you and 3
I will sit there and go through it keystroke-by-4 keystroke until your concerns are properly addressed.
5 May I have the next slide?
6 Now the various means by which comments 7
can be provided into our system, into our process, you 8
can certainly send written comments to the Chief of 9
our Rules and Directives Branch at the NRC and that 10 will guarantee that your comments get into our public 11 record.
12 Now another means thats available to you 13 is a person can stop by our office and provide 14 comments in person. I recognize that this far away 15 from Rockville, Maryland, that may not be practical, 16 but its included on this slide because it is 17 something that is available to you and I have also 18 created a special e-mail address to receive your 19 e-mail comments on what you believe should be 20 considered in the scope of our environmental review.
21 That e-mail address being DresdenEIS@nrc.gov and once 22 again, if its just not working for you, if you get a 23 message back that says undeliverable or some such 24 thing as that, get on the telephone with me and you 25 and I will talk through it.
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24 That pretty much concludes my prepared 1
remarks. I would like to turn the meeting back over 2
to Chip unless there is some questions that Id be 3
happy to answer.
4 MR. CAMERON: Thank you, Duke. That was 5
very, very helpful. Do we have any questions on what 6
youve heard tonight? Does anyone have anything at 7
all for either Duke or T.J.? All right, were going 8
to go to the second part of the meeting which is to 9
listen to you, and I thought it would be useful to 10 hear from the Exelon Company, first in terms of the 11 rationale for their submitting the license renewal 12 application, and also some of the work that they did 13 to put that application together. And we have Mr. Bob 14 Hovey with us who is the Exelon Vice President for the 15 Dresden Station. And Bobs going to talk to us for a 16 few minutes.
17 MR. HOVEY: Thank you, Chip and good 18 evening to everyone. Thanks for being here tonight.
19 As Chip said, Im Bob Hovey, the site Vice President 20 at the Dresden Nuclear Generating Station, and Im 21 extremely pleased to be here tonight to talk about 22 license renewal and everything that weve done in the 23 process. This is my second opportunity to be involved 24 in a license renewal. I was involved as site Vice 25 President in charge of what turned out to be the fifth 26
25 plant in the United States to go through the process 1
and thats where I got to work with Chip and many of 2
the staff folks that are here with us tonight and back 3
in the various NRC offices.
4 And in reflecting on that process from a 5
couple of years ago, I found that that process was 6
very thorough, very open and very fair. And I have no 7
doubt that the process that were going to be going 8
through for license renewal will also be very 9
thorough, very open and very fair. Dresden along with 10 our sister station Quad Cities, over on the 11 Mississippi River, will be the first nuclear stations 12 in the Midwest to go through the license renewal 13 process. License renewal is very important. Its 14 important, not only to the people at Dresden Station, 15 but to the people in the communities that surround us.
16 Dresden is the key element in the local community. We 17 employ more than seven hundred people, employees, most 18 of whom live in the surrounding communities of Morris, 19 Coal City, Channahon, and Minooka.
20 Since the plant began operations over 21 thirty years ago, weve provided a significant tax 22 base for the local communities and we continue to 23 support the communities through additional means like 24 contributions to local charities, sponsorship of 25 community events and volunteer efforts. The economics 26
26 are important, but I think safety is even more 1
important, and safety is my top priority and I want 2
you to understand that safety is the top priority of 3
the Dresden Station and we will continue to focus on 4
safety as our top priority as we operate that 5
facility.
6 And I think if we point to some recent 7
upgrades at the facility in the security area in the 8
post 911 era, I think that demonstrates our continued 9
support and commitment to public safety. Dresden also 10 benefits the environment. We provide safe generation 11 of clean emission-free electricity. Nuclear energy 12 itself is environmentally friendly with no hazardous 13 emissions, no depletion of natural resources.
14 One environmental benefit that you may not 15 be aware of is that the river freezes over and we use 16 a siphon from our cooling pond at strategic times 17 during the winter periods to allow warm water to be 18 diverted to the river and either prevent or break up 19 ice flows and thus prevent flooding. And Dresden is 20 also population to, is home to a healthy population of 21 deer, and for all of us that work at the facility or 22 go to or from the facility, we have to watch out for 23 the deer.
24 License renewal is an investment in our 25 future. I think the Dresden Units have undergone 26
27 continual operations and maintenance upgrades and 1
today theyre safer and they operate better and they 2
are more productive than theyve ever been in the life 3
of the plant. And I hope that you realize the 4
positive impact that Dresden has had as a generator of 5
electricity and as a good neighbor for our local 6
communities. And the only other thing I had to say 7
was I wanted to thank the NRC, Chip, everyone here, 8
for coming out and hosting this meeting, and I 9
certainly want to thank every member of the public who 10 took your time tonight to come and either listen or 11 share your views or both. So I certainly appreciate 12 that. Thank you.
13 MR. CAMERON: Okay, thank you very much 14 Bob. Bob has given us a perspective from the Dresden 15 Station, and now were going to go to Exelons 16 corporate manager for license renewal, Mr. Fred 17 Polaski, whos going to talk a little bit about the 18 application. Fred?
19 MR. POLASKI: Thank you, Chip. As Chip 20 said, my name is Fred Polaski and I am Exelons 21 Corporate Manager for license renewal.
Im 22 responsible for all the license renewal activities 23 that Exelon is carrying on. That includes the license 24 renewal application for Dresden and Quad Cities which 25 we filed with the NRC and also for our Peach Bottom 26
28 plant in Pennsylvania which Im very happy will be 1
receiving its new license in May of this year.
2 A little bit about myself. Ive been 3
working in the nuclear business for over thirty years.
4 I spent twenty years at the Peach Bottom Station, I 5
held a Senior Reactor Operators license there for 6
thirteen years. Ive done other work with PECO Energy 7
which is one of the two companies for the company that 8
merged with ComEd to form Exelon and for the last 9
seven years, Ive been working in the area of license 10 renewal. Ive spent about the first three years 11 working in industry groups, working with Nuclear 12 Energy Institute, and the Nuclear Regulatory 13 Commission to form the processes for implementing of 14 the regulations for the license renewal rule about how 15 a utility prepares a license renewal application and 16 gets reviewed by the NRC.
17 Mr. Hovey talked about the reasons why we 18 decided to renew the license or pursue a renewed 19 license for Dresden. Id like to talk a little bit 20 about the work that Exelon did in preparation of the 21 license renewal applications. We expended a large 22 amount of engineering effort in preparing the 23 applications. In 2000, ComEd decided to prepare a 24 license renewal application for both Dresden and Quad 25 Cities. The application was submitted to the Nuclear 26
29 Regulatory Commission in January of this year, January 1
3rd.
2 And really the application, when you came 3
in if you looked at it on the table out in the lobby, 4
theres several volumes to it. The safety application 5
is a volume about that thick. The environmental 6
report for Dresden is not quite as thick, and theres 7
a separate one for Quad Cities, but that really 8
represents a summary of the work that was done by the 9
engineers in Exelon and our contractors to come to the 10 conclusions that we needed to do and be able to submit 11 that application. And the information that supports 12 that, probably volume wise, is at least one hundred 13 times the size of those applications. We invested 14 over forty-person years in engineering work in 15 preparing those applications, so theyre very 16 extensive and thorough and complete review of what we 17 needed to perform for that application.
18 Id like to speak first about the safety 19 review. I know thats not the primary focus of 20 tonights meeting, but we did expend a large amount of 21 effort in preparation of that. What we had to do was 22 to determine that for the safety related equipment in 23 the plant, that equipment thats needed to operate 24 under emergency and safety situations, whether that 25
30 equipment was being maintained properly so that it 1
would function as needed when it had to operate.
2 When Dresden was built, all the equipment 3
was brand new. It was thoroughly tested to make sure 4
it performed properly but equipment in a nuclear power 5
plant like anything else, does age with time and with 6
operation. Doesnt mean it wont work when its 7
needed to, but because things age as they operate, it 8
means that the maintenance technicians and the 9
operators at the plant need to maintain that equipment 10 in good operating condition. And our review was 11 really looking to see whether that was being performed 12 properly, so that the plant could operate for an 13 additional twenty years.
14 We also reviewed engineering analyses that 15 were performed as part of the design of the plant, 16 that looked at safety analysis for how the plant would 17 operate and some of those analyses had involved in 18 them calculations which involved the lifetime of the 19 plant for forty years. We had to review them and redo 20 those calculations to show that those analyses were 21 valid for sixty year lifetime of the plant.
22 And what our review concluded with the 23 equipment is being maintained properly and that the 24 plant can operate safely for sixty years. And I know 25 that sometimes you know, you hear those words and you 26
31 wonder what in the world is a nuclear power plant with 1
chain link fences around it because of security 2
reasons and you know, what goes on behind it? Theres 3
a lot of equipment in that plant. In the time period 4
weve got, its very hard to describe and I dont want 5
to try to do that but let me give you an analogy.
6 When you buy an automobile thats brand 7
new, you drive it off the dealers lot. Its been 8
built, its been tested, it operates well, and when 9
you drive it off the lot it works fine for you. If 10 all you do is drive it, its not going to last you 11 very long. You do things to maintain that and 12 maintain it in good driving condition. You have the 13 oil changed periodically, you tune-up the engine, you 14 have brakes replaced and other things. Sometimes its 15 a more significant investment. You may have to put a 16 new transmission in a car if it wears out, but you do 17 those things to keep it operating. So even as it 18 ages, it can still operate for you, perform the way 19 you want it to and youre able to drive it safely.
20 A nuclear power plant is a lot bigger, a 21 lot more complicated, but I think the analogy is true 22 in that the people who operate Dresden have been 23 maintaining it and operating it properly so that it 24 will be able to operate safely for sixty years.
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32 In the environmental area, Exelon reviewed 1
all of the aspects required by the Nuclear Regulatory 2
Commission of the impact of continued operation of 3
Dresden on the environment. And thats what you think 4
of normally is environment, the impact on cooling 5
water systems and the rivers but its also looking at 6
things like socioeconomic impact on the surrounding 7
community, the road systems, the people that live in 8
this area. And our conclusion is that the impacts on 9
the environment are going to be small. Now smalls a 10 word that, you think you know what small means but 11 really its a regulatory term. And what it means is 12 the impact on the environment is acceptable.
13 I guess Id like to look at it a little 14 bit differently. And the conclusion is that right now 15 there are impacts on the environment from operation of 16 Dresden. Theres impacts on the environment from a 17 lot of things we do, driving an automobile. Im sure 18 when this building was constructed, there was an 19 impact on the environment. Ground was disturbed, 20 things were dug up and the building was built. But 21 what we concluded on the continued operation of 22 Dresden, is that the impact on the environment from 23 forty to sixty years of operation, an additional 24 operating period, wont be any different than what it 25 is during the present term of operation.
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33 We also had to look, as part of that 1
review, about what would be the impact on the 2
environment if the generation of 1800 megawatts of 3
electricity thats produced by Dresden would have to 4
be done by some other means. And our conclusion was 5
that any other means of generating that electricity 6
would have a larger impact on the environment then if 7
we continue to operate Dresden for an additional 8
twenty years.
9 So to conclude, Exelon has concluded that 10 its the right thing to do to renew the license for 11 Dresden, and I personally also believe, that Dresden 12 can be safely operated for an additional twenty years 13 and it will provide 1800 megawatts of clean, reliable, 14 environmentally friendly, economic electricity that 15 will benefit this community, the State of Illinois and 16 our country. Thank you.
17 MR. CAMERON: Okay, thank you Fred and Bob 18 for giving us those facts. Id like to go next to Mr.
19 Alfie Rodriguez and Alfie do you want to come up here 20 if its easier for you? Go ahead.
21 MR. RODRIGUEZ: Good evening ladies and 22 gentlemen. My name is Alfie Rodriguez. Thats not 23 the important thing here. The important thing is that 24 Im a resident of Grundy County. Ive been for the 25 past twenty-three years a resident, a neighbor, of the 26
34 Dresden nuclear facility. All that time, it has been 1
a pleasure to be a neighbor of the Dresden facility.
2 The Dresden facility, I live at 355 Bass Court, 3
Morris, Illinois, which is in the Goose Lake 4
subdivision or Goose Lake Village.
5 From my door to the Dresden parking lot is 6
four and a half miles. Its extremely close. During 7
all that time, Ive noticed its been nothing but a 8
great, a big asset to the community. Not only to the 9
community but to the county and to the State. Dresden 10 itself fulfills the need for employment. It has many, 11 many, many of my neighbors that are employed at the 12 Dresden facility. It also, during the shutdowns and 13 the turnarounds, employs many of the construction jobs 14 to keep that facility running safe and proper.
15 Being a business representative with the 16 sheet metal workers, Ive had the opportunity to get 17 an insight into some of the safety, the rigorous 18 safety regulations of the plant itself. So really 19 ladies and gentlemen, with all the safety behind it, 20 its with no reservation that I live so close to that 21 facility. To make a long story short, in light of 22 what the Dresden Nuclear, Dresden Generating Station 23 has shown over the years in the safety record and what 24 its meant not only to the county, to the community 25 and to the state, it would be a travesty not to renew 26
35 their license. So I speak in strong support of the 1
license renewal. Duke, T.J., you said earlier if 2
theres any questions, if you guys ever get a couple 3
of weeks free, Ive got questions. Thank you very 4
much.
5 MR. CAMERON: Okay, thanks Alfie and please 6
Duke, T.J., take him up and find out what those 7
questions are. We do have someone, a representative 8
from local county government with us, Millie Dyer, 9
whos with the Grundy County Board. Millie, please 10 speak to us.
11 MS. DYER: Good evening. Im a member of 12 the Grundy County Board, and the Board would like to 13 have the license extended for the Dresden nuclear 14 plant. Weve been very happy with what all thats 15 gone on. Ive been a resident, I was a resident when 16 it was being built. I was out of the county for a 17 while, but I know how great of an impact it does have 18 on the county. I was talking to a fellow when I was 19 coming in here and I made one comment about the high 20 cancer rate we have in Grundy County, and I dont feel 21 like its related to the nuclear power plant, but I 22 guess I would like to see at some point in time, a 23 study made as to why there is such a high cancer rate 24 in Grundy County. Its affected many people that I 25
36 know and I think it would be an interesting study.
1 Thank you for your time.
2 MR. CAMERON: Thank you very much Millie 3
for that suggestion. And I think it may be useful for 4
you and everybody else if someone from the NRC staff 5
can just talk a little bit about what regulations we 6
have in place to protect the public from radiation and 7
how we ensure that those regulations are met. And I 8
guess the third piece is how these, what are called 9
epidemiology studies on cancer rates, who might be 10 responsible for those and how those are requested.
11 And we have one of our expert health physicists with 12 us, Richard Emch, from the NRC. Can you try to answer 13 those Richard?
14 MR. EMCH: Ill try. Dont oversell me 15 here.
16 MR. CAMERON: Okay.
17 MR. EMCH: Hello folks, my name is Rich 18 Emch. As Chip said, Im a health physicist with the 19 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. I want to start 20 off, obviously cancer is a concern to all of us. I 21 mean, you know, the latest statistics Ive seen show 22 that, you know, that the rate is like one out of four 23 people get, contract some sort of cancer or whatever 24 and I guess for men I guess, if we live long enough, 25 we will get prostate cancer is the statistic that Ive 26
37 seen. So it is a concern to all of us, so I 1
understand your concern maam. To start to address 2
this though, Im going to move from very general 3
information to more specific information associated 4
with the Dresden site.
5 There are many challenges to health in the 6
world. This particular challenge, radiation, 7
radioactive material, has been really studied very 8
strongly, many times. There have literally been 9
thousands of studies of the possible effects of 10 radiation on humans, and of all those studies on the 11 international scene, the national scene, none of them, 12 no credible study has shown any effects, any health 13 effects, below, and Im going to use a term millirem, 14 ten thousand millirem. Im using that particular unit 15 of measurement. Its a unit of measurement dose to 16 the human body and Im going to use that measurement 17 because Im going to talk, as I go through, youll see 18 why that, how that comes into play as we start down 19 the ladder here.
20 So no credible effects below ten thousand 21 millirem. By comparison, as a human living on this 22 planet, each of us receives an average of say about 23 three hundred millirem per year. This is from cosmic 24 radiation and from naturally occurring radioactive 25 material in the ground or in building materials.
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38 Theres a certain amount of radioactive material 1
inside your body, potassium, calcium, and we receive 2
some dose from that. And then there are other sources 3
like if you go to the dentist or the doctor. The sort 4
of dose that you would get from those kinds of just 5
diagnostic x-rays is maybe ten to fifty millirem. So 6
if were following it down, we start with ten thousand 7
as the nothing below ten thousand has been shown to 8
show effects, now were down to each of you, each of 9
us receives three hundred, roughly three hundred a 10 year with no known effects from that.
11 Now well come down to what the NRC 12 regulations are for a nuclear power plant. They are 13 in Appendix I, they are in Part 20 and Part 50 of our 14 regulations. Thats not important. Whats important 15 is that the regulations are roughly in the five to ten 16 millirem per year range is the limitation. So weve 17 gone down from ten thousand to three hundred, now down 18 to five or ten and there have been, studies were done 19 of the health effects of cancer rates around nuclear 20 power plants and there was no increase in cancers 21 around nuclear power plants.
22 Now lets move to Dresden specifically.
23 Dresden meets the NRC regulations so theyre within 24 that five to ten millirem range. Actually, unless you 25 are right at the site boundary, its probably even 26
39 considerably lower than that. Some of that five to 1
ten millirem comes from, in fact we refer to it as 2
turbine shine, sky shine, which is from the N-16 in 3
their turbine. But the amount thats released in 4
their effluents is considerably smaller than that.
5 So thats kind of a walk through of the 6
issue of cancer and radiation. Now of course having 7
said that, if theres any new information, were 8
always, I mean thats why were here tonight is to 9
gather new information if there is any. And so if you 10 have some studies or something that were done specific 11 to this area, wed very much like to see them because, 12 like I said, were here to gather information. Can I 13 answer any questions?
14 MR. CAMERON: Yes, Alfie?
15 MR. RODRIGUEZ: Has a study ever been --
16 MR. CAMERON: Alfie, can we get you on the 17 record?
18 MR. RODRIGUEZ: Sure. Has a study ever 19 been made of the cancer rate for the population here 20 in Grundy County. My own wife was diagnosed with lung 21 cancer three and a half years ago but she was a smoker 22 and she survived. But to me, I dont see any higher 23 rate than anywhere else. Has a study ever been done?
24 MR. EMCH: First, were happy that your 25 wife survived. Second, yes, Dresden and Quad Cities 26
40 were both part of that study that I referred to later 1
of cancer rates around nuclear power plants and no 2
increased incidences.
3 MR. CAMERON: And we can, as a follow-up, 4
sometimes the State Department of Health, okay, in a 5
particular State, will do a survey of cancer rates.
6 For example, this happened recently in South Carolina, 7
and those are the government officials who usually 8
know that. Perhaps we can find out a little bit more 9
about whether there has been a recent study.
10 And Rich, please correct me if Im wrong, 11 there is a Federal agency who deals with these types 12 of cancer studies. The NRC does not. We, as Rich 13 pointed
- out, we set our regulations very 14 conservatively on what would be a safe dose for 15 release. The agency which is in Atlanta, Georgia is 16 the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.
17 Theres usually the agency in the Federal government 18 who will sometimes do epidemiological studies. Rich, 19 do you have anything you can do to --
20 MR. EMCH: No, I dont really have anything 21 further.
22 MR. CAMERON: All right.
23 MR. EMCH: I will say as far as effluents, 24 you mentioned the State, any studies the State might 25 do, the State of Illinois does do some sampling, 26
41 groundwater sampling, water sampling from the rivers 1
and things like that. So they sort of check behind, 2
the licensee has similar programs, much more extensive 3
programs, and the State does, so to speak, check 4
behind them to ensure that theyre being done properly 5
and know that there is no big discrepancy in what the 6
licensee finds and what the state finds. And then the 7
NRC inspectors also look over the program as well.
8 MR. CAMERON: Okay, thank you. And Duke, 9
can we find out whether theres any State contact that 10 might give some useful information to Millie, and 11 well get your phone number and well follow that up.
12 And we noted your comments, the board speaking in 13 support of license renewal also. Is there anybody 14 else that has, we know you have lots of questions.
15 Does anybody else have a question, anything that they 16 would, and thank you Rich, very, very good. Anybody 17 else want to know anything? Yes sir, and please give 18 us your name please.
19 MR. FATLAN: My name is Lee Fatlan and Im 20 also in favor of the plant staying open. The question 21 I have is spent fuel storage. Im just wondering if 22 we do extend the license for twenty years, and I know 23 its been a political football as to where were going 24 to store this fuel, what will be done with the fuel 25 that will be generated for the next twenty years?
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42 MR. CAMERON: Okay, this is a question on 1
spent fuel storage from a particular facility and also 2
what ultimately might happen in terms of the disposal 3
of that waste. Who wants to, from the NRC staff, 4
wants to give a summary of that? Okay, Barry is our 5
expert on this and please introduce yourself.
6 MR. ZALCMAN: Boy, youre too easy with the 7
experts. My name is Barry Zalcman, Im also with the 8
staff. Let me just point out, number one, the 9
Commission reassesses the ability to manage spent fuel 10 materials and has passed judgment. Its called the 11 Waste Confidence Decision, so as part of our 12 regulations, everybody throws out parts of our 13 regulations, 10 CFR, Title 10 of the Code of Federal 14 Regulations, 51.23 addresses the spent fuel issue and 15 the Commission has confidence that even with license 16 renewal, that spent fuel can be managed safely at 17 nuclear power plants. So this is to be part of the 18 nations resolution of the waste issue.
19 The Commission has confidence that within 20 the first twenty-five years of this century, the 21 Commission expects that a facility would exist to deal 22 with the spent fuel for the long term. But in the 23 interim, there are different ways to manage spent 24 fuel, either wet pools which is typically within the 25 facility boundaries itself or through independent 26
43 spent fuel insulation facilities or dry cask storage 1
which could be on-site or theres even a proposal to 2
have a remote location as an interim storage facility.
3 Additional fuel will be used during the additional 4
twenty years of operation.
5 If these facilities get their licenses 6
renewed, the Commission has faith now that that fuel 7
will be managed effectively and safely over that 8
period. And with a long term resolution still part of 9
the national goal. You may also be aware of the 10 situation with Yucca Mountain, that it has been 11 recommended to the President, and the President has in 12 fact, approved a further evaluation of Yucca Mountain 13 with the expectation that the Department of Energy is 14 charged with that responsibility, will in fact, submit 15 an application to the NRC as a separate licensing 16 action to deal with the long term disposition of spent 17 fuel. Does that help?
18 MR. CAMERON: Thank you Barry. That was 19 very, very concise, very good. Rich, do you want to 20 add something to that?
21 MR. EMCH: Yeah, I just wanted to mention 22 I was out here as part of the site audit that we were 23 talking about earlier and the Dresden plant employs 24 both a spent fuel pool and they also employ dry cask 25 storage.
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44 MR. CAMERON: Okay, thank you. And I think 1
as Barry pointed out, licensees such as Exelon, for 2
nuclear power plant, have to meet the NRC regulations 3
for spent fuel storage and licensing also. Anybody 4
else? Yes, sir.
5 MR. KIRN: How safe is that plant from a 6
boat going into that plant and blowing it up? On the 7
river.
8 MR. CAMERON: Okay, now I want you to 9
repeat that just so everybody could hear it clearly 10 and then were going to answer it. I didnt catch it 11 either, but how safe is -- go ahead.
12 MR. KIRN: How safe is that plant from all 13 the boats on the river to go in there with a rocket 14 launcher and attack that plant?
15 MR. CAMERON: All right. I think we heard 16 the question. John?
17 MR. TAPPERT: I guess your question relates 18 to a terrorist attack, a potential terrorist attack on 19 the plant. These nuclear power plants in general, and 20 Dresden also, are some of the most hardened, most 21 secure facilities, civilian facilities in the country.
22 They were secure before 9/11 and after those 9/11 23 attacks, a number of safety and security improvements 24 have been made to those facilities.
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45 The NRC has issued what we call Interim 1
Compensatory Measures to have them increase their 2
security posture. We have also subsequently issued 3
orders to each and every of the hundred and three 4
nuclear power plants in this country to have them, you 5
know, increased stand-off distances for potential 6
bombs and increased staffing and whatnot.
7 And the NRC is continuing to evaluate this 8
issue, to really determine what is the appropriate 9
threat that these plants need to be defended against 10 and whos going to bear that burden, whether its 11 going to be the plants, the Federal government or 12 State and local authorities. So, to answer your 13 question in a nutshell, its safe. Were continuing 14 to look at the issue. Its an important issue that 15 the Agency takes very seriously. But a lots been 16 done and were continuing to look at it.
17 And Dukes pointing out to me an important 18 point. That while the Agency is very focused on this 19 issue, youre not going to see it as part of the 20 Environmental Impact Statement that were going to 21 issue at the end of the year. And the reason for that 22 is very simple. The security issues apply to the 23 whole one hundred and three plants in the country and 24 were dealing with them now. Were not going to wait 25 for these plants to come in for license renewal to 26
46 start looking at security issues. So weve divorced 1
it from the license renewal process. Its what we 2
call a current operating issue and its being handled 3
in that context.
4 MR. CAMERON: Thank you, thank you John.
5 Does that answer your question, sir? All right, 6
great. Anybody else have any questions while were at 7
it about license renewal or NRC regulatory 8
responsibilities? Alfie, do you have anything else?
9 All right, okay. Duke, do you want to say something?
10 All right, good.
11 MR. WHEELER: One comment that I would like 12 to point out is that as Chip pointed out, we do have 13 a transcript of this meeting. Its going to be 14 prepared and when I get a copy of that transcript, I 15 will put it in the public record. All the comments 16 made will be a part of that transcript, but if anybody 17 brought any documents with them that they would like 18 attached to the transcript, give those documents to me 19 at this meeting and I will make sure that they get 20 into the transcript.
21 I would ask that you give the documents to 22 me and not just take them over and hand them to the 23 transcriber. That way if theres a problem later on 24 when the transcription does go into the public record 25 and your comments arent there, it will be something 26
47 that youll work out with me and we wont be trying to 1
contact the transcription service. So that was just 2
one point I wanted to make. In addition to your 3
comments, if you brought anything that you would like 4
attached to the transcript, I would be happy to do 5
that. Thank you.
6 MR. CAMERON: Thanks, Duke. Anybody else 7
before we adjourn tonight? All right, the staff will 8
be here, our experts will be here so Desiree, our 9
Resident Inspector, will be here after the meeting, so 10 please take the opportunity to talk to them and I 11 would just thank you all for coming out. But I want 12 to turn it over to John Tappert whos in charge of 13 this, to just close the meeting out for us. John?
14 MR. TAPPERT: Okay, I would just like to 15 echo Chips final thoughts. I want to thank everyone 16 for taking some time out of their evening tonight and 17 coming here and sharing your thoughts with us. Its 18 an important part of our scoping process and Duke and 19 T.J. will stay here as long as necessary to answer any 20 questions that you may have as well as the rest of the 21 NRC staff. So thanks again for coming and have a good 22 evening.
23 (Whereupon the above matter was concluded 24 at 8:12 p.m.)
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