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{{#Wiki_filter:Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Public Meeting Summary July 20, 2023
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U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Public Meeting Summary July 20, 2023


==Title:==
==Title:==
Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems Meeting Identifier: 20230751 Date of Meeting: July 12, 2023 Location: Webinar (via Microsoft Teams)
Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for F usion Energy Systems
Type of Meeting: Information Meeting with a Question-and-Answer Session Purpose of Meeting:
 
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff hosted a public meeting to inform the public that the staff has commenced work on a proposed rule to develop a regulatory framework under Title 10 of the Code of Federal Regulations (10 CFR) Part 30 for fusion energy systems and to develop guidance under NUREG-1556 Consolidated Guidance About Materials Licenses. The staff encouraged public feedback during the meeting; however, no formal responses will be issued. This feedback discussion was intended to help staff develop the proposed rule.
Meeting Identifier: 20230751 Date of Meeting: July 12, 2023
 
Location: Webinar (via Microsoft Teams)
 
Type of Meeting: Information Meeting with a Question-and-Answer Session
 
Purpose of Meeting:
 
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff hosted a pub lic meeting to inform the public that the staff has commenced work on a proposed rule to develop a regulatory framework under Title 10 of the Code of Federal Regulations (10 CFR) Part 30 for fusion energy systems and to develop guidance under NUREG-1556 Consol idated Guidance About Materials Licenses. The staff encouraged public feedback during the meeting; however, no formal responses will be issued. This feedback disc ussion was intended to help staff develop the proposed rule.
General Details:
General Details:
The NRC is proposing to amend its regulations in 10 CFR 30 to provide a regulatory framework for fusion energy systems.
 
As part of the proposed rule, the NRC staff also intends to issue, for public comment, the following supporting materials:
The NRC is proposing to amend its regulations in 10 CFR 30 to p rovide a regulatory framework for fusion energy systems.
 
As part of the proposed rule, the NRC staff also intends to iss ue, for public comment, the following supporting materials:
* draft guidance under a new volume (Volume 22) of NUREG-1556
* draft guidance under a new volume (Volume 22) of NUREG-1556
* a draft regulatory analysis (cost analysis)
* a draft regulatory analysis (cost analysis)
* an environmental assessment
* an environmental assessment
* a supporting statement for any proposed information collections under the Paperwork Reduction Act The virtual meeting consisted of one NRC presentation providing an overview of the Commissions direction for this proposed rule, four stakeholder presentations providing their feedback on what this rule should accomplish, and finally a question-and-answer session where the public was invited to pose any additional feedback and questions to the NRC. The meeting was well attended by 156 participants, including NRC staff, fusion companies, Fusion Industry Association, academia, Agreement States, non-government organizations, Department of Energy, and other members of the public.
* a supporting statement for any proposed information collection s under the Paperwork Reduction Act
 
The virtual meeting consisted of one NRC presentation providing an overview of the Commissions direction for this proposed rule, four stakeholder presentations providing their feedback on what this rule should accomplish, and finally a question-and-answer session where the public was invited to pose any additional fee dback and questions to the NRC. The meeting was well attended by 156 participants, inc luding NRC staff, fusion companies, Fusion Industry Association, academia, Agreement Sta tes, non-government organizations, Department of Energy, and other members of the p ublic.
Summary of Presentation:
Summary of Presentation:
Dennis Andrukat of the NRC opened the meeting, introducing himself as the Project Manager for this rule and acting as the meetings facilitator. Mr. Andrukat described the purpose of the meeting - to present an overview of the proposed rule and to listen to public feedback on what this rule should accomplish. Mr. Andrukat then discussed 1                                ML23191A156


Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems logistics of the meeting and advised participants on the features of the webinar platform.
Dennis Andrukat of the NRC opened the meeting, introducing hims elf as the Project Manager for this rule and acting as the meetings facilitator. Mr. Andrukat described the purpose of the meeting - to present an overview of the proposed rule and to listen to public feedback on what this rule should accomplish. Mr. Andruk at then discussed
Mr. Andrukat noted the agenda in which the first half of the meeting will be presentations by the NRC staff and various stakeholders, followed by a short break, and the remaining half of the public meeting will be an open question and answer session. Mr. Andrukat provided instructions for how members of the public attending via Microsoft Teams or via the phone could ask questions or offer comments. Mr. Andrukat expressed the desire that the meeting will help the NRC staff better understand stakeholder ideas and concerns related to the development of the proposed rule. Mr. Andrukat encouraged public participation during the meeting from all stakeholders but noted that the NRC will not provide any formal responses to the feedback and questions offered during the meeting. Mr. Andrukat then introduced the speakers for this public meeting.
 
Mr. Andrukat then turned the meeting over to the NRCs Theresa Clark, Deputy Director for the Division of Materials Safety, Security, State, and Tribal Programs (MSST) in the Office of Nuclear Material Safety and Safeguards (NMSS). Ms. Clark welcomed everyone and gave the opening remarks before turning the meeting back over to Mr.
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logistics of the meeting and advised participants on the featur es of the webinar platform.
Mr. Andrukat noted the agenda in which the first half of the me eting will be presentations by the NRC staff and various stakeholders, followed by a short break, and the remaining half of the public meeting will be an open question and answer session. Mr. Andrukat provided instructions for how members of the public attending v ia Microsoft Teams or via the phone could ask questions or offer comments. Mr. Andrukat e xpressed the desire that the meeting will help the NRC staff better understand stak eholder ideas and concerns related to the development of the proposed rule. Mr. A ndrukat encouraged public participation during the meeting from all stakeholders b ut noted that the NRC will not provide any formal responses to the feedback and questions offered during the meeting. Mr. Andrukat then introduced the speakers for this pub lic meeting.
 
Mr. Andrukat then turned the meeting over to the NRCs Theresa Clark, Deputy Director for the Division of Materials Safety, Security, State, and Trib al Programs (MSST) in the Office of Nuclear Material Safety and Safeguards (NMSS). Ms. Cl ark welcomed everyone and gave the opening remarks before turning the meetin g back over to Mr.
Andrukat.
Andrukat.
The meeting then commenced with the presentations and Mr. Andrukat turned the meeting over to the rulemakings technical lead: the NRCs Duncan White, NMSS/MSST. Mr. White began his slide presentation by providing a short overview of the background of the rulemaking. Mr. White highlighted the Commission direction to pursue a regulatory framework under the Part 30 Byproduct Material framework. Mr.
The meeting then commenced with the presentations and Mr. Andru kat turned the meeting over to the rulemakings technical lead: the NRCs Duncan White, NMSS/MSST. Mr. White began his slide presentation by providing a short overview of the background of the rulemaking. Mr. White highlighted the Com mission direction to pursue a regulatory framework under the Part 30 Byproduct Mater ial framework. Mr.
Andrukat added a high-level overview of the NRCs rulemaking process, where we are today in that process, the public milestone dates, the proposed opportunities for public engagement, and a general idea of the types of supporting documents before handing the meeting back to Mr. White.
Andrukat added a high-level overview of the NRCs rulemaking pr ocess, where we are today in that process, the public milestone dates, the proposed opportunities for public engagement, and a general idea of the types of supporting docum ents before handing the meeting back to Mr. White.
Mr. White continued the NRCs overview of the Commissions direction for this rulemaking, highlighting the planned structure for rule and the implementation guidance (NUREG-1556, Volume 22), key areas and topics to be addressed, and the staffs outreach plans.
 
Next, Mr. Andrukat turned the meeting over to the following stakeholders who presented their slides:
Mr. White continued the NRCs overview of the Commissions dire ction for this rulemaking, highlighting the planned structure for rule and the implementation guidance (NUREG-1556, Volume 22), key areas and topics to be addressed, and the staffs outreach plans.
* University of Wisconsin-Madison - Laila El-Guebaly - Inquiry to Develop Fusion-Specific Standards to Regulate Radioactive Waste of Fusion Energy System
 
* Fusion Industry Association (FIA) - Andrew Holland - NRC Meeting: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems
Next, Mr. Andrukat turned the meeting over to the following sta keholders who presented their slides:
* Helion - Sachin Desai - Introduction to Helion: Rulemaking for Fusion Energy Systems
* University of Wisconsin-Madison - Laila El-Guebaly - Inquiry to Develop Fusion-Specific Standards to Regulate Radioactive Waste of Fusi on Energy System
* Commonwealth Fusion Systems (CFS) - Tyler Ellis Ph.D. - CFS Regulatory Presentation This concluded the presentation portion of the meeting.
* Fusion Industry Association (FIA) - Andrew Holland - NRC Meet ing: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems
* Helion - Sachin Desai - Introduction to Helion: Rulemaking fo r Fusion Energy Systems
* Commonwealth Fusion Systems (CFS ) - Tyler Ellis Ph.D. - CFS Regulatory Presentation
 
This concluded the presentation portion of the meeting.
Public Feedback and Questions:
Public Feedback and Questions:
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Below is a high-level summary of the feedback offered by the st akeholders for the NRC staff to consider as they develop the draft proposed rule and t he draft implementation guidance.
* In general, stakeholders agreed on utilizing a 10 CFR Part 30 byproduct material regulatory framework.
* In general, stakeholders agreed on utilizing a 10 CFR Part 30 byproduct material regulatory framework.
* The four stakeholder presentations offered many questions and suggestions for the NRC staff to consider including waste management, definitions, regulation changes, export controls, fusion types and characteristics, and offers to develop guidance.
* The four stakeholder presentations offered many questions and suggestions for the NRC staff to consider including waste management, definitio ns, regulation changes, export controls, fusion types and characteristics, and offers to develop guidance.
* A stakeholder suggested the guidance could mirror NUREG-1556, Volume 21, Program-Specific Guidance About Possession Licenses for Production of Radioactive Material Using an Accelerator.
* A stakeholder suggested the gui dance could mirror NUREG-1556, Volume 21, Program-Specific Guidance About Possession Licenses for Produc tion of Radioactive Material Using an Accelerator.
* A stakeholder asked about the rulemaking timeline and if the NRC had the needed resources to complete the rulemaking and guidance.
* A stakeholder asked about the rulemaking timeline and if the N RC had the needed resources to complete the rulemaking and guidance.
* A stakeholder asked about the interfacing with other federal agencies.
* A stakeholder asked about the interfacing with other federal a gencies.
* A stakeholder suggested that for near-term fusion energy systems, a 10 CFR Part 30 framework would be acceptable. However, for fusion energy systems developed in the longer-term, then a more fulsome, standalone regulatory framework should be established. This stakeholder also advocated the use of fusion energy as a means towards a cleaner climate.
* A stakeholder suggested that for near-term fusion energy syste ms, a 10 CFR Part 30 framework would be acceptable. However, for fusion ener gy systems developed in the longer-term, then a more fulsome, standalone r egulatory framework should be established. This stakeholder also advocate d the use of fusion energy as a means towards a cleaner climate.
* Numerous stakeholders presented feedback related to waste management and welcomed the waste-related information presented. Feedback included:
* Numerous stakeholders presented feedback related to waste mana gement and welcomed the waste-related information presented. Feedback incl uded:
o highlighting the NRCs current 10 CFR Part 61, low-level waste rulemaking and asked if fusion-related material should be included in that rulemaking.
o highlighting the NRCs current 10 CFR Part 61, low-level waste rulemaking and asked if fusion-related material should be inclu ded in that rulemaking.
o questions on whether to update the 10 CFR 61.55 waste classification tables with fusion-related material and whether to identify a maximum limit for low-level, greater-than Class C materials.
o questions on whether to update the 10 CFR 61.55 waste classifi cation tables with fusion-related material and whether to identify a m aximum limit for low-level, greater-than Class C materials.
o question on whether the comparison of potential fusion-related wastes and waste from the current power reactor fleet captured annual waste production or was based only on core volumes.
o question on whether the comparison of potential fusion-related wastes and waste from the current power reactor fleet captured annual waste production or was based only on core volumes.
o a comment that waste volume comparisons might be premature because they relied on research reactors and commercial systems could use different technologies and would be designed to minimize waste production.
o a comment that waste volume comparisons might be premature bec ause they relied on research reactors and commercial systems could u se different technologies and would be designed to minimize waste production.
o a stakeholder agreed with the use of 10 CFR Part 61 and asked about the use of an accelerator model.
o a stakeholder agreed with the use of 10 CFR Part 61 and asked about the use of an accelerator model.
o agreement that this is an issue for further refinement and consideration.
o agreement that this is an issue for further refinement and con sideration.
* Numerous stakeholders mentioned export controls and are committed to ensuring they continue to meet and maintain the export control framework in-place today.
* Numerous stakeholders mentioned export controls and are commit ted to ensuring they continue to meet and maintain the export control framework in-place today.
* A stakeholder asked whether 10 CFR Part 51, regarding environmental-related requirements, would need to be changed for fusion energy systems.
* A stakeholder asked whether 10 CFR Part 51, regarding environm ental-related requirements, would need to be changed for fusion energy system s.
* In general, stakeholders eagerly offered to help the NRC staff to develop the rule and associated guidance (or to develop their own guidance for NRCs approval for use).
* In general, stakeholders eagerly offered to help the NRC staff to develop the rule and associated guidance (or to develop their own guidance for N RCs approval for use).
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Closing:
Mr. Andrukat made brief closing re marks, thanking everyone for their time and attention.
Mr. Andrukat displayed a slide with the rules www.regulations.gov Docket ID number (NRC-2023-0071), the public repository for key documents related to the development of this rulemaking, as well as cont act information and the NRCs new public website for Fusion Energy Systems.


Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems Closing:
Mr. Andrukat made brief closing remarks, thanking everyone for their time and attention.
Mr. Andrukat displayed a slide with the rules www.regulations.gov Docket ID number (NRC-2023-0071), the public repository for key documents related to the development of this rulemaking, as well as contact information and the NRCs new public website for Fusion Energy Systems.
Mr. Andrukat informed participants of the public meeting feedback form available on the NRC Public Meeting Schedule website and ended the meeting by stating that the NRC looks forward to the publics comments on the proposed rule.
Mr. Andrukat informed participants of the public meeting feedback form available on the NRC Public Meeting Schedule website and ended the meeting by stating that the NRC looks forward to the publics comments on the proposed rule.
Action Items/Next Steps:
Action Items/Next Steps:
* The staff will review the feedback for consideration in the drafting of the rule and guidance.
* The staff will review the feedback for consideration in the dr afting of the rule and guidance.
* The staff anticipates the next public meeting to be held in October 2023.
* The staff anticipates the next public meeting to be held in Oc tober 2023.
 
Related Documents:
Related Documents:
* ML23191A146 - ADAMS PACKAGE: 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A154 - 07/12/2023 - Notice of Public Meeting to Discuss the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A153 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Presentation -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A156 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Summary -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems Information Referenced During Public Meeting:
* ML23191A146 - ADAMS PACKAGE: 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A154 - 07/12/2023 - Notice of Public Meeting to Discuss the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A153 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Presentation -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A156 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Summary -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems Information Referenced During Public Meeting:
* ML22273A178 - ADAMS PACKAGE: SECY-23-0001, Options for Licensing and Regulating Fusion Energy Systems, dated January 3, 2023
* ML22273A178 - ADAMS PACKAGE: SECY-23-0001, Options for Licensing and Regulating Fusion Energy Systems, dated January 3, 2023
* ML23103A449 - SRM-SECY-23-0001, STAFF REQUIREMENTS - SECY                 0001 - Options for Licensing and Regulating Fusion Energy Systems, dated April 13, 2023
* ML23103A449 - SRM-SECY-23-0001, STAFF REQUIREMENTS - SECY 0001 - Options for Licensing and Regulating Fusion Energy Syste ms, dated April 13, 2023
* NUREG-1556, "Consolidated Guidance About Materials Licenses" https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/nuregs/staff/sr1556/index.html
* NUREG-1556, "Consolidated Guidance About Materials Licenses" https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/nuregs/staff/sr1 556/index.html
* NRC Public Website for Fusion Energy Systems:
* NRC Public Website for Fusion Energy Systems:
https://www.nrc.gov/materials/fusion-energy-systems.html
https://www.nrc.gov/materials/fusion-energy-systems.html
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* Link to FIAs industry reports:
* Link to FIAs industry reports:
https://www.fusionindustryassociation.org/news/from-the-fia/#industry-reports
https://www.fusionindustryassociation.org/news/from-the-fia/#industry-reports
* ML22243A083 - Letter from Helion to NRC, Classification of Fusion Devices as Particle Accelerators; and Supplementing Common Defense & Security Discussions, dated August 12, 2022 4                                    ML23191A156
* ML22243A083 - Letter from Helion to NRC, Classification of Fusion Devices as Particle Accelerators; and Supplementing Common Defense & Secur ity Discussions, dated August 12, 2022


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* NRCs Public Rulemaking Website - Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems: https://rulemaking.nrc.gov/Rules/Detail/2185
* NRCs Public Rulemaking Website - Regulatory Framework for Fus ion Energy Systems: https://rulemaking.nrc.gov/Rules/Detail/2185
* Regulations.gov Website for Docket ID: NRC-2023-0071:
* Regulations.gov Website for Docket ID: NRC-2023-0071:
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LIST OF ATTENDEES*
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JULY 12, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED RULE: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems NRC                                              EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS                             EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS Dennis Andrukat**                                 Laila El-Guebaly**                               Matt Hendrickson (ODOE)
 
Duncan White**                                   Andrew Holland**                                 Matthew Greenwood Allyce Bolger                                     Sachin Desai**                                   Matthew Lipka Amy Hull                                         Tyler Ellis**                                     Megan L. Shober (DHS)
JULY 12, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED RULE: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS NRC EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS Dennis Andrukat** Laila El-Guebaly** Matt Hendrickson (ODOE)
Andrew Proffitt                                   Adam Maslowski                                   Megan Wart Boby Abu-Eid                                     Alison Brown                                     Meghan Cromie (CDPHE)
Duncan White** Andrew Holland** Matthew Greenwood Allyce Bolger Sachin Desai** Matthew Lipka Amy Hull Tyler Ellis** Megan L. Shober (DHS)
Candace Spore                                     Ane Lasa                                         Melvin J Weatherly (DOH)
Andrew Proffitt Adam Maslowski Megan Wart Boby Abu-Eid Alison Brown Meghan Cromie (CDPHE)
Carrie McCann                                     Andrew Holcomb                                   Michael Hua Charles Murray                                   Ashley Forbes                                     Mike O'Neill Christian Einberg                                 Augustinus Ong                                   Mike Stephens Christianne Ridge                                 Austin J. Nowak (DHS)                             Pascal Dumont Christopher Grossman                             Becki Harisis                                     Philip Justin Keb Christopher Ulmer                                 Bibake Uppal                                     Phillip Peterson (CDPHE)
Candace Spore Ane Lasa Melvin J Weatherly (DOH)
Cindy Bladey                                     Bill Dundulis (RIDOH)                             Robert Custodio Cindy Rosales-Cooper                             Brenda Garcia-Diaz                               Robert C. Harris Daniel Dimarco                                   Brian Vamvakias (DSHS)                           Robert Jennings Daniel Shaw                                       Bruce Hammond (DSHS)                             Rose Yankoski (VDH)
Carrie McCann Andrew Holcomb Michael Hua Charles Murray Ashley Forbes Mike O'Neill Christian Einberg Augustinus Ong Mike Stephens Christianne Ridge Austin J. Nowak (DHS) Pascal Dumont Christopher Grossman Becki Harisis Philip Justin Keb Christopher Ulmer Bibake Uppal Phillip Peterson (CDPHE)
Dave McIntyre                                     Cameron Williams                                 Ryanne Kennedy (MPR)
Cindy Bladey Bill Dundulis (RIDOH) Robert Custodio Cindy Rosales-Cooper Brenda Garcia-Diaz Robert C. Harris Daniel Dimarco Brian Vamvakias (DSHS) Robert Jennings Daniel Shaw Bruce Hammond (DSHS) Rose Yankoski (VDH)
David Cullison                                   Charles Burns                                     Sara Castegini Donald Palmrose                                   Charlyne A Smith                                 Scott Clausen Duane White                                       Chris Ajemian                                     Scott Landry (CDPH)
Dave McIntyre Cameron Williams Ryanne Kennedy (MPR)
Ethan Licon                                       Chris Faranetta                                   Sean Williams Helen Chang                                       Corey Creveling                                   Sheila Nelson (VDH)
David Cullison Charles Burns Sara Castegini Donald Palmrose Charlyne A Smith Scott Clausen Duane White Chris Ajemian Scott Landry (CDPH)
Hossein Esmaili                                   Cortney Dillard                                   Sidney L. Fowler Ilka Berrios                                     Dan Andrei                                       Stacey French Isaac Johnston                                   Dave Babineau                                     Stefanie Blum (DSHS)
Ethan Licon Chris Faranetta Sean Williams Helen Chang Corey Creveling Sheila Nelson (VDH)
Jack Cowan                                       David Matos                                       Susan Gallier James Anderson                                   Derek Bailey (CDPHE)                             Szymon Mudrewicz (DPH)
Hossein Esmaili Cortney Dillard Sidney L. Fowler Ilka Berrios Dan Andrei Stacey French Isaac Johnston Dave Babineau Stefanie Blum (DSHS)
Jeff Poehler                                     Diane Demers                                     Teodori Michael Jill Shepherd                                     Diego S. Saenz (DHS)                             Todd M. Anselmi Jonathan Fiske                                   Don Gregoire                                     Trent Bauserman Joseph Staudenmeier                               Edward Khatchatrian                               Undria McCallum Kenneth Erwin                                     Eric Skotak (DSHS)                               Xinhan (Henry) Tao Kevin Williams                                   Floyd DesChamps                                   Zachary Johnson Leah Smith                                       Forrest Weston (DSHS)
Jack Cowan David Matos Susan Gallier James Anderson Derek Bailey (CDPHE) Szymon Mudrewicz (DPH)
Lee Smith                                         Gene Nardella Linda Howell                                     Guinevere Shaw Lisa Dimmick                                     Hesham Y. Khater Mari de Jesus                                     Ian Miner Marilyn Diaz Maldonado                           Ira Schneider (CDPH)
Jeff Poehler Diane Demers Teodori Michael Jill Shepherd Diego S. Saenz (DHS) Todd M. Anselmi Jonathan Fiske Don Gregoire Trent Bauserman Joseph Staudenmeier Edward Khatchatrian Undria McCallum Kenneth Erwin Eric Skotak (DSHS) Xinhan (Henry) Tao Kevin Williams Floyd DesChamps Zachary Johnson Leah Smith Forrest Weston (DSHS)
Neil Sheehan                                     Jana Bergman Patricia Cline-Thomas                             Jarrett Mack Robert Tregoning                                 Jeffrey S. Merrifield Ronald Raunikar                                   Jennifer Elee Sandra Talley                                     Jerry Bingaman Sarah Spence                                     Jim Klein Scott Burnell                                     Joseph McCarthy (CDPH)
Lee Smith Gene Nardella Linda Howell Guinevere Shaw Lisa Dimmick Hesham Y. Khater Mari de Jesus Ian Miner Marilyn Diaz Maldonado Ira Schneider (CDPH)
Shah Malik                                       Kaci Studer Sheldon Clark                                     Kasey McGinty Stephen Philpott                                 Kate Hyam Steven Lynch                                     Kathy McCarthy Suzanne Dennis                                   Kenath Traegde (DPH)
Neil Sheehan Jana Bergman Patricia Cline-Thomas Jarrett Mack Robert Tregoning Jeffrey S. Merrifield Ronald Raunikar Jennifer Elee Sandra Talley Jerry Bingaman Sarah Spence Jim Klein Scott Burnell Joseph McCarthy (CDPH)
Theresa Clark                                     Kevin Quach (CDPH)
Shah Malik Kaci Studer Sheldon Clark Kasey McGinty Stephen Philpott Kate Hyam Steven Lynch Kathy McCarthy Suzanne Dennis Kenath Traegde (DPH)
Tricia Lizama                                     Lisa Bruedigan (TX DSHS)
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July 12, 2023, Public Meeting Summary Proposed Rule: Fusion Energy Systems
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Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for F usion Energy Systems

U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Public Meeting Summary July 20, 2023

Title:

Public Meeting on the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for F usion Energy Systems

Meeting Identifier: 20230751 Date of Meeting: July 12, 2023

Location: Webinar (via Microsoft Teams)

Type of Meeting: Information Meeting with a Question-and-Answer Session

Purpose of Meeting:

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff hosted a pub lic meeting to inform the public that the staff has commenced work on a proposed rule to develop a regulatory framework under Title 10 of the Code of Federal Regulations (10 CFR) Part 30 for fusion energy systems and to develop guidance under NUREG-1556 Consol idated Guidance About Materials Licenses. The staff encouraged public feedback during the meeting; however, no formal responses will be issued. This feedback disc ussion was intended to help staff develop the proposed rule.

General Details:

The NRC is proposing to amend its regulations in 10 CFR 30 to p rovide a regulatory framework for fusion energy systems.

As part of the proposed rule, the NRC staff also intends to iss ue, for public comment, the following supporting materials:

  • draft guidance under a new volume (Volume 22) of NUREG-1556
  • a draft regulatory analysis (cost analysis)
  • an environmental assessment
  • a supporting statement for any proposed information collection s under the Paperwork Reduction Act

The virtual meeting consisted of one NRC presentation providing an overview of the Commissions direction for this proposed rule, four stakeholder presentations providing their feedback on what this rule should accomplish, and finally a question-and-answer session where the public was invited to pose any additional fee dback and questions to the NRC. The meeting was well attended by 156 participants, inc luding NRC staff, fusion companies, Fusion Industry Association, academia, Agreement Sta tes, non-government organizations, Department of Energy, and other members of the p ublic.

Summary of Presentation:

Dennis Andrukat of the NRC opened the meeting, introducing hims elf as the Project Manager for this rule and acting as the meetings facilitator. Mr. Andrukat described the purpose of the meeting - to present an overview of the proposed rule and to listen to public feedback on what this rule should accomplish. Mr. Andruk at then discussed

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logistics of the meeting and advised participants on the featur es of the webinar platform.

Mr. Andrukat noted the agenda in which the first half of the me eting will be presentations by the NRC staff and various stakeholders, followed by a short break, and the remaining half of the public meeting will be an open question and answer session. Mr. Andrukat provided instructions for how members of the public attending v ia Microsoft Teams or via the phone could ask questions or offer comments. Mr. Andrukat e xpressed the desire that the meeting will help the NRC staff better understand stak eholder ideas and concerns related to the development of the proposed rule. Mr. A ndrukat encouraged public participation during the meeting from all stakeholders b ut noted that the NRC will not provide any formal responses to the feedback and questions offered during the meeting. Mr. Andrukat then introduced the speakers for this pub lic meeting.

Mr. Andrukat then turned the meeting over to the NRCs Theresa Clark, Deputy Director for the Division of Materials Safety, Security, State, and Trib al Programs (MSST) in the Office of Nuclear Material Safety and Safeguards (NMSS). Ms. Cl ark welcomed everyone and gave the opening remarks before turning the meetin g back over to Mr.

Andrukat.

The meeting then commenced with the presentations and Mr. Andru kat turned the meeting over to the rulemakings technical lead: the NRCs Duncan White, NMSS/MSST. Mr. White began his slide presentation by providing a short overview of the background of the rulemaking. Mr. White highlighted the Com mission direction to pursue a regulatory framework under the Part 30 Byproduct Mater ial framework. Mr.

Andrukat added a high-level overview of the NRCs rulemaking pr ocess, where we are today in that process, the public milestone dates, the proposed opportunities for public engagement, and a general idea of the types of supporting docum ents before handing the meeting back to Mr. White.

Mr. White continued the NRCs overview of the Commissions dire ction for this rulemaking, highlighting the planned structure for rule and the implementation guidance (NUREG-1556, Volume 22), key areas and topics to be addressed, and the staffs outreach plans.

Next, Mr. Andrukat turned the meeting over to the following sta keholders who presented their slides:

  • University of Wisconsin-Madison - Laila El-Guebaly - Inquiry to Develop Fusion-Specific Standards to Regulate Radioactive Waste of Fusi on Energy System
  • Fusion Industry Association (FIA) - Andrew Holland - NRC Meet ing: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems
  • Helion - Sachin Desai - Introduction to Helion: Rulemaking fo r Fusion Energy Systems
  • Commonwealth Fusion Systems (CFS ) - Tyler Ellis Ph.D. - CFS Regulatory Presentation

This concluded the presentation portion of the meeting.

Public Feedback and Questions:

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Below is a high-level summary of the feedback offered by the st akeholders for the NRC staff to consider as they develop the draft proposed rule and t he draft implementation guidance.

  • In general, stakeholders agreed on utilizing a 10 CFR Part 30 byproduct material regulatory framework.
  • The four stakeholder presentations offered many questions and suggestions for the NRC staff to consider including waste management, definitio ns, regulation changes, export controls, fusion types and characteristics, and offers to develop guidance.
  • A stakeholder suggested the gui dance could mirror NUREG-1556, Volume 21, Program-Specific Guidance About Possession Licenses for Produc tion of Radioactive Material Using an Accelerator.
  • A stakeholder asked about the rulemaking timeline and if the N RC had the needed resources to complete the rulemaking and guidance.
  • A stakeholder asked about the interfacing with other federal a gencies.
  • A stakeholder suggested that for near-term fusion energy syste ms, a 10 CFR Part 30 framework would be acceptable. However, for fusion ener gy systems developed in the longer-term, then a more fulsome, standalone r egulatory framework should be established. This stakeholder also advocate d the use of fusion energy as a means towards a cleaner climate.
  • Numerous stakeholders presented feedback related to waste mana gement and welcomed the waste-related information presented. Feedback incl uded:

o highlighting the NRCs current 10 CFR Part 61, low-level waste rulemaking and asked if fusion-related material should be inclu ded in that rulemaking.

o questions on whether to update the 10 CFR 61.55 waste classifi cation tables with fusion-related material and whether to identify a m aximum limit for low-level, greater-than Class C materials.

o question on whether the comparison of potential fusion-related wastes and waste from the current power reactor fleet captured annual waste production or was based only on core volumes.

o a comment that waste volume comparisons might be premature bec ause they relied on research reactors and commercial systems could u se different technologies and would be designed to minimize waste production.

o a stakeholder agreed with the use of 10 CFR Part 61 and asked about the use of an accelerator model.

o agreement that this is an issue for further refinement and con sideration.

  • Numerous stakeholders mentioned export controls and are commit ted to ensuring they continue to meet and maintain the export control framework in-place today.
  • A stakeholder asked whether 10 CFR Part 51, regarding environm ental-related requirements, would need to be changed for fusion energy system s.
  • In general, stakeholders eagerly offered to help the NRC staff to develop the rule and associated guidance (or to develop their own guidance for N RCs approval for use).

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Closing:

Mr. Andrukat made brief closing re marks, thanking everyone for their time and attention.

Mr. Andrukat displayed a slide with the rules www.regulations.gov Docket ID number (NRC-2023-0071), the public repository for key documents related to the development of this rulemaking, as well as cont act information and the NRCs new public website for Fusion Energy Systems.

Mr. Andrukat informed participants of the public meeting feedback form available on the NRC Public Meeting Schedule website and ended the meeting by stating that the NRC looks forward to the publics comments on the proposed rule.

Action Items/Next Steps:

  • The staff will review the feedback for consideration in the dr afting of the rule and guidance.
  • The staff anticipates the next public meeting to be held in Oc tober 2023.

Related Documents:

  • ML23191A146 - ADAMS PACKAGE: 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A154 - 07/12/2023 - Notice of Public Meeting to Discuss the Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A153 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Presentation -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems o ML23191A156 - 07/12/2023 - Public Meeting Summary -- Proposed Rule: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems Information Referenced During Public Meeting:
  • ML23103A449 - SRM-SECY-23-0001, STAFF REQUIREMENTS - SECY 0001 - Options for Licensing and Regulating Fusion Energy Syste ms, dated April 13, 2023
  • NRC Public Website for Fusion Energy Systems:

https://www.nrc.gov/materials/fusion-energy-systems.html

  • Link to FIAs industry reports:

https://www.fusionindustryassociation.org/news/from-the-fia/#industry-reports

  • ML22243A083 - Letter from Helion to NRC, Classification of Fusion Devices as Particle Accelerators; and Supplementing Common Defense & Secur ity Discussions, dated August 12, 2022

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  • Regulations.gov Website for Docket ID: NRC-2023-0071:

www.regulations.gov/docket/NRC-2023-0071

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JULY 12, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED RULE: Regulatory Framework for Fusion Energy Systems EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS NRC EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS Dennis Andrukat** Laila El-Guebaly** Matt Hendrickson (ODOE)

Duncan White** Andrew Holland** Matthew Greenwood Allyce Bolger Sachin Desai** Matthew Lipka Amy Hull Tyler Ellis** Megan L. Shober (DHS)

Andrew Proffitt Adam Maslowski Megan Wart Boby Abu-Eid Alison Brown Meghan Cromie (CDPHE)

Candace Spore Ane Lasa Melvin J Weatherly (DOH)

Carrie McCann Andrew Holcomb Michael Hua Charles Murray Ashley Forbes Mike O'Neill Christian Einberg Augustinus Ong Mike Stephens Christianne Ridge Austin J. Nowak (DHS) Pascal Dumont Christopher Grossman Becki Harisis Philip Justin Keb Christopher Ulmer Bibake Uppal Phillip Peterson (CDPHE)

Cindy Bladey Bill Dundulis (RIDOH) Robert Custodio Cindy Rosales-Cooper Brenda Garcia-Diaz Robert C. Harris Daniel Dimarco Brian Vamvakias (DSHS) Robert Jennings Daniel Shaw Bruce Hammond (DSHS) Rose Yankoski (VDH)

Dave McIntyre Cameron Williams Ryanne Kennedy (MPR)

David Cullison Charles Burns Sara Castegini Donald Palmrose Charlyne A Smith Scott Clausen Duane White Chris Ajemian Scott Landry (CDPH)

Ethan Licon Chris Faranetta Sean Williams Helen Chang Corey Creveling Sheila Nelson (VDH)

Hossein Esmaili Cortney Dillard Sidney L. Fowler Ilka Berrios Dan Andrei Stacey French Isaac Johnston Dave Babineau Stefanie Blum (DSHS)

Jack Cowan David Matos Susan Gallier James Anderson Derek Bailey (CDPHE) Szymon Mudrewicz (DPH)

Jeff Poehler Diane Demers Teodori Michael Jill Shepherd Diego S. Saenz (DHS) Todd M. Anselmi Jonathan Fiske Don Gregoire Trent Bauserman Joseph Staudenmeier Edward Khatchatrian Undria McCallum Kenneth Erwin Eric Skotak (DSHS) Xinhan (Henry) Tao Kevin Williams Floyd DesChamps Zachary Johnson Leah Smith Forrest Weston (DSHS)

Lee Smith Gene Nardella Linda Howell Guinevere Shaw Lisa Dimmick Hesham Y. Khater Mari de Jesus Ian Miner Marilyn Diaz Maldonado Ira Schneider (CDPH)

Neil Sheehan Jana Bergman Patricia Cline-Thomas Jarrett Mack Robert Tregoning Jeffrey S. Merrifield Ronald Raunikar Jennifer Elee Sandra Talley Jerry Bingaman Sarah Spence Jim Klein Scott Burnell Joseph McCarthy (CDPH)

Shah Malik Kaci Studer Sheldon Clark Kasey McGinty Stephen Philpott Kate Hyam Steven Lynch Kathy McCarthy Suzanne Dennis Kenath Traegde (DPH)

Theresa Clark Kevin Quach (CDPH)

Tricia Lizama Lisa Bruedigan (TX DSHS)

Tyler Hammock Luke Thomson Wendy Reed Mark D Paulson (DHS)

  • List does not contain attendees who participated via a phone line or who did not provide first and last names
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